Pb Derigable Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) McCain is going to "stay the course". I don't trust the course, so I'm voting for Obama. Does anyone think that we have been on the "right path" since Bush took office? If McCain wants to send my son to Iraq, he is my enemy. We need to let the U.N. handle the mid-east and start concentrating on getting America healed. I'm not even close to being a liberal and I trust pretty much anyone else besides the Republicans to run our country. They are out of touch with the wants and needs of the American people. When did you flip. Am I mistaken and always thought you were against Obama. Or did you thought obama is the lesser of two evils. Im sorry, you were a Hilrod supporter and you're anti Global warming. So i would not be wrong to say you think both McCain and Obama is bad, but you trust Obama more. Thats fair Edited June 10, 2008 by Pb Derigable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suz Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Wait wait wait! *In hysterics* You're actually choosing your leader based on how they dress? Hitler loved Germany i suppose,but you honestly think that a man can't love his country without killing for it?Yeah,well,settle in guys,it's gonna be a long 4 years... Not at all, you silly Irishman! You see, it's the lapel pin that tells us who they really are, and what really matters (their "patriotism", of couse). And don't you say otherwise, or I will insult your country because mine is superior! With superior edumacation and everything, so.....rest easy, there. As you can tell the voters have it well in hand.....and if you're not convinced by the last 8 years you must be nutso. Got it, now? Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. Plant Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 The point here is not whether or not we differ in our views, the point is that you have now acknowledged that you are perfectly willing to vote for a candidate (McCain) who doesn't always wear an American flag lapel pin, so therefore it's disingenuous of you (republicans) to try to make a campaign issue out of the fact that Obama doesn't always wear a flag lapel pin. Get the point now, Mrs? So then,.. what does it tell you about John McCain that he doesn't always wear an flag lapel pin? Don't call me Mrs. I can sense your smartass tone. And I don't doubt McCain's patriotism, I doubt Obama's. I said let's move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) Obama is more likely to steer the United States away from war, at least on the outset. I have no issue with his patriotism, but I think he erred in failing to honor the flag. What is the point of running an election campaign for the United States presidential office if you fail to honor the flag? From a logistical view, you're already losing votes. I realize that he was expressing a point of view, and I appreciate that it appeals to a portion of the country that has the sense of being excluded from the American dream, but it's not a wise political move for a future President who must somehow unite a divided nation. Edited June 10, 2008 by eternal light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyPage1977 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 When did you flip. Am I mistaken and always thought you were against Obama. Or did you thought obama is the lesser of two evils. Im sorry, you were a Hilrod supporter and you're anti Global warming. So i would not be wrong to say you think both McCain and Obama is bad, but you trust Obama more. Thats fair I'm for true conservative fiscal responsibility, which the Republicans are failing to deliver. I'm against socialist government, but find our current foreign policy to be the greater of the two evils. I'm against inexperience, but FOR change....TRUE CHANGE! I'm for the troops, but against using them to line the pockets of the oil barons. I'm for America and think that it's time to start taking care of our own domestic troubles, before we stick our noses in everyone else's business. Since I live in Washington State, which is experiencing record cold temperatures and winter-like weather in JUNE, I'm FOR global warming....... it's just that I don't think that man can change global climate enough to stop the impending global cooling that will inevitably occur. An education in geology would be really great for someone like Al Gore. I don't like Obama. I hope that America has learned something from the last 7 years. We will be stuck with the lesser of two evils because America is a land of weak-minded people that can no longer stand together to do what is right for everyone. The Two Party System is a dismal failure, it's time for Americans to take a stand and electing Obama is the closest thing to the taking that step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanna be drummer Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Though the medida makes it sound that way, that is not the case. There are many divergent voices in the afro american community that speak out on issues though not well known or not as outspoken as these two. I wish these the media had or made the time & effort to seek out more divegent views rather than run to al or jesse every time there's a national issue of concern regarding the african american community. We all don't look or think alike. I agree. But again, those are the leaders of the "civil rights" movements going on today in the view of the media, and whatever the media shows the American public believes. Thus, the public believes them to be the leaders of the civil rights movements. We need another Malcolm X...the old, calm, and rational one, not the young militant one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepyep Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Hi all, I'm for true conservative fiscal responsibility, which the Republicans are failing to deliver. That is true,and the dems haven't been either. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm against socialist government, but find our current foreign policy to be the greater of the two evils. It's a step away. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm against inexperience, but FOR change....TRUE CHANGE! I'm for the troops, but against using them to line the pockets of the oil barons. May I see some proof of this? Gas, just hit $3.97 donw the road,I this a 'no blood for oil?' BS I heard 4 years ago,... ------------------------------------------------------------------ I'm for America and think that it's time to start taking care of our own domestic troubles, before we stick our noses in everyone else's business. This happened in 1916,1940,etc,.... Sure,we'll sit back,get our own backyard in order.Then who are they going to call? This is not to put any nation down,at all. but when s*** happens,we respond and with our allies,.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Since I live in Washington State, which is experiencing record cold temperatures and winter-like weather in JUNE, I'm FOR global warming....... it's just that I don't think that man can change global climate enough to stop the impending global cooling that will inevitably occur. An education in geology would be really great for someone like Al Gore. Who?I saw Mr. Gore on SNL,damn if was liked that I would have voted for him.But nooo,he looked like had to run to the bathrooom,-all-the-time and his wife Tipper tried to mess with Dee Snyder,.....that's enough,... ---------------------------------------------------------------- I don't like Obama. I hope that America has learned something from the last 7 years. We will be stuck with the lesser of two evils because America is a land of weak-minded people that can no longer stand together to do what is right for everyone. Never met Obama,nor do I like the 'cult of personality' hookum either,I don't hate the man,but I don't like his policies.Peroid. We may or may not learn,but in 7 years I'd have high hopes that Bush was right,becuase things come out way after then fact. "Great tradedy,come great strength,this is how we learn." ------------------------------------------------------------------ The Two Party System is a dismal failure, it's time for Americans to take a stand and electing Obama is the closest thing to the taking that step. How about the finger?'Or your s**** sinks,,.....foul enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit_ Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) On your next post, just answer if you disagree with Obama on something, and/or agree with McCain on something, and If you believe that Obama has to deal with the problem of his radical friends, even if you don't agree with or any other problems he has. Because there is no way an open minded person you claim you are, couldn't find some issue you disagree with Obama. How's this: Obama favors civil unions, and I disagree with that position; I support gay marriage. There ya go, Pb,.. there's an issue where I disagree with Obama. Satisfied? No,.. you're not satisfied? You want me to site a few Obama shortcomings.. ..as a way of showing of my ability to be objective about him as a candidate? Ok, fair enough. Obama lacks executive experience; however, in the course of the dem primaries he proved himself to be a very skilled manager of people and resources, and he proved that he can be an effective manger even under extraordinary pressure. I have no doubt whatsoever that he can be an effective executive at the highest level of politics. I'm not sure if Obama's universal healthcare plan is better than Hillary Clinton's or not, but I know they'll be working together on it and a final plan will emerge and will be enacted into law that chart a new course for America's healthcare system.. for the better. Obama lacks first hand military experience, but I don't think first hand military experience is a requirement to be POTUS; Obama has demonstrated that he has the intelligence and wisdom to name adequate to people to the appropriate cabinet positions who will give him all the advise he needs to be able to make sound Commander-in-Chief judgments and decisions. Exhibit A: Obama exhibited Commander-in-Chief wisdom and sound judgment when opposed the invasion of Iraq. He was absolutely right in taking that position, a position he conveyed eloquently and with impenetrably solid rationale. Obama did not get fooled by the Bush administration lies and propaganda that *misled this nation into war*, and he had the personal integrity and political courage to stand in opposition to Bush's invasion plan at a time when most other politicians bought into Bush's warmongering propaganda and went along with it. [Conversely, John McCain who has lots of first hand military experience, bought into the Bush admin warmongering propaganda, supported the invasion of Iraq, and was wrong in that judgment. And now he's rattling sabers and foolishly wants to take America to war with Iran. Obviously McCain's military experience is not translating into sound Commander-in-Chief judgments and decision making skills.] As far as Obama's so-called "radical friends" go.. No, I do not think that will be an issue. I do not think John McCain, or his surrogates, will want to get into a guilt-by-association smear campaign with Obama since McCain himself has some friends and political associates who are pretty darn unsavory. You like to keep mentioning Bill Ayers, but the fact of the matter is that Bill Ayers was never convicted of any crimes and he went on to become a "respectable" citizen, at least enough to become a tenured professor at a prestigious Illinois university (UI-Chicago; a position he currently holds). Obama's association with Ayers took place after Ayers' radical days were long since past. Nonetheless, Obama has severed his ties with Ayers, and their relationship is now an issue that I don't think will have any traction in the general election other than among righties who would never vote for Obama anyway. As far as Tony Rezko goes; he was convicted on fraud and extortion charges, but those charges had nothing to do with Barack Obama. Nonetheless, Obama has both rejected and denounced Tony Rezko, and has apologized for any real estate dealings he had with him that gave so much as the appearance of impropriety. Trying to smear Obama by association with Rezko has, rightfully, gotten no traction in the dem primaries and will only have traction in the general election among righties who would never vote for Obama anyway and among those pathetically ignorant voters who are susceptible to smear tactic politics. So ultimately, no I don't think Obama's so-called "radical friends" will be issues of any import during the general election. Not that that will stop republican 527 smear machines from doing their best to make issues out of those associations, of course. Fwiw, I think McCain's relationships with people like convicted lobbyist Jack Abramof; current lobbyist and McCain campaign adviser Charlie Black; and UBS lobbyist (think 'Housing Market collapse') and McCain "economic adviser" Phil Gramm are going to be campaign issues that resonate more with voters in the general election than any of Obama's so-called "radical friends". And of course McCain's involvement in The Keating Five could rear its ugly head again.. especially in an election when lobbying is such a hot issue and The Keating Five scandal was about Washington-insider influence peddling. Personally, I'd like to see a campaign free of smear. I'd like to see a campaign focused on the issues. I'm confident that a campaign focused on the issues will result in Obama being elected POTUS. I think right wing republicans know that too, and as such the 527 smear machines will be out in full force. But I think Obama will rise above the 527s and will emerge victorious.. in part because the American public is sick and tired of the politics of smear; in part because he's so darn charismatic and inspirational; and mostly because he's right [ie, correct] on the issues. There. How's that? Oops,.. I forgot to agree with McCain on something. Uhh.. Hmmm.. Do I agree with McCain's position on.. Invasion of Iraq? Nope. 100 year war in Iraq? Nope. Permanent Bush tax cuts? Nope. Trickle Down economics? Nope Domestic spying? Nope. Waterboarding/torture? Nope. War with Iran? Nope. Conservative SC Justices? Nope. Stem cell research? Nope. School vouchers? Nope. Lobbyists setting public policy? Nope. Gay Marriage? Nope. Ah! I remember something I agree with McCain on! --> ""The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should." ~John McCain I agree with McCain that he certainly doesn't understand economics. Ok.. seriously though,.. I can think of two issues on which I think McCain differs from Bush a bit and in which I would probably be able to find common ground with him on: 1. "Path to citizenship for illegal immigrants" [what right wing repubs call "amnesty"]. I agree that there ought to be a path to citizenship for illegals who are already here. 2. McCain acknowledges Global Warming/Climate Change whereas Bush is a hardcore Global Warming denialist. I think McCain has, unfortunately, moved to the right on his environmental positions though. I respected his environmental positions more in the past, but he's since sold out those positions as he's been pandering to the right for support from the republican base. He still acknowledges Global Warming, but the steps he'd take to deal with the issue are wholly inadequate. There was a time (pre-2001) when McCain deserved the 'maverick in the republican party' and 'straight talker' reputation that he had. I respected him back then. He has since sold out his principles and changed his positions on so many issues so that he's now almost completely aligned with the republican agenda that he once bucked. 'John McCain the maverick' is now nothing more than legend of old. [Pardon the pun there. I mean 'legend of days past', of course. *wink-chuckle*]. Although the 'maverick' and 'straight talker' lables no longer apply to McCain, he's milking the old reputation [erm.. the reputation from before] for all the votes he can get out of it. But if you're as "objective" as you claim to be, surely you'll acknowledge that he's not really a 'maverick'.. or even a 'straight talker'.. anymore. If you're objective you'll acknowledge that he's become a shameless, principle-less panderer.., won't you? Ok. There's.. how's that for being objective about both candidates? Edited June 10, 2008 by Hermit_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) Gay marriage means that when I marry my lesbian girlfriend at age 18 and then later meet and fall in love with Robert Plant at age 23, I must be unfaithful to my spouse just to be with him, and probably go through an expensive and painful divorce. How is that going to work? I'm not so sure that I want the same gender to have that much power over me. That would be making it awfully hard for me to be with the opposite sex. Edited June 10, 2008 by eternal light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit_ Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I'm for true conservative fiscal responsibility, which the Republicans are failing to deliver. I'm against socialist government, but find our current foreign policy to be the greater of the two evils. I'm against inexperience, but FOR change....TRUE CHANGE! I'm for the troops, but against using them to line the pockets of the oil barons. I'm for America and think that it's time to start taking care of our own domestic troubles, before we stick our noses in everyone else's business. Since I live in Washington State, which is experiencing record cold temperatures and winter-like weather in JUNE, I'm FOR global warming....... it's just that I don't think that man can change global climate enough to stop the impending global cooling that will inevitably occur. An education in geology would be really great for someone like Al Gore. I don't like Obama. I hope that America has learned something from the last 7 years. We will be stuck with the lesser of two evils because America is a land of weak-minded people that can no longer stand together to do what is right for everyone. The Two Party System is a dismal failure, it's time for Americans to take a stand and electing Obama is the closest thing to the taking that step. Uhh.. ..thats not an entirely resounding endorsement for Obama.. ..but what the heck!.. we'll take it!! Welcome aboard the O-Train, Scotty! I've been saving a seat for you in 1st Class, bud. Obama '08!! Btw.. cute endorsement of [] Global Warming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. Plant Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 AHHHHHHHHH Hermit!!! You talk soooo much!!! and you use all the smileys and colors and crap you can!!!! your posts hurt my eyes!!!!!!! i have to get off this thing and stop reading this back and forth crap before my head explodes. goodnight all!!! let's all try and be nicer to each other tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit_ Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Don't call me Mrs. I can sense your smartass tone. And I don't doubt McCain's patriotism, I doubt Obama's. I said let's move on. Is it ok with you, Mrs, if I take your non-responsive reply as a tacit admission of your disingenuousness over the lapel pin issue? [ok with you, or not.. that's how I'm taking it. ] And fwiw,.. I was gonna call you Mrs Bush. You know.. Plant <--> Bush. But I settled simply on Mrs. Thought you'd prefer it to Mrs Bush. Was I wrong? take good care of your eyes now, babe. yes, even if it means avoiding my posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyPage1977 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Hi all, How about the finger?'Or your s**** sinks,,.....foul enough? You have fouled my posts. Do you really compare WWII to the Iraq war? IRAQ DIDN'T ATTACK US.... JAPAN DID! An education would do you a world of good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzldoc Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Im saying slavery doesnt happen in our country. Thinking you are owed for something that your great great great great grandparents went through is obsurd. I don't go around thinking I am owed for things that happened to my Jewish or Irish relatives. Everyone, every race, is discriminated against. I was discriminated against at Target a few months ago for cryin out loud. My point is that I am sick and tired of people that think that only WHITE people can be racist. Thank You! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Zeppnile Posted June 10, 2008 Author Share Posted June 10, 2008 Del-Rove still pumping out the PIPS [Petty Idiotic Political Smears], eh?! Today's 'PIPS Of The Day': lapel pins. Newsflash! Neither McCain nor Obama always wear an American flag lapel pin. Newsflash! (supplemental) McCain and Obama are both patriotic; they both love America. End of story, right? Now I'm being compared the "The Architect" (Mr. Rove)? I take that as a compliment. I'm not in his league, but I do seem to have the power to form opinions here like few others. Sort of a legend I am. But the problem Obama made for himself with the pin scandal, was that Obama made a point to try and explain why he thought not wearing one at the time was being more patriotic. It was a lame explanation that he now has to wear that around his neck. But at least some of his handlers have since talked some sense into the man. Now he wears the pin quite often. Which does not help him in the area of "wuss factor." In America? Unless you know of some impressive esoteric history, that was pretty useless. I guess you didn't read THE OPENING POST ? Del Zeppnile referred to this Obama woman bemoaning that 'whitey' has caused so much of 'African peoples' (note, not American) problems 'around the world'. The 'around the world' part was the most pertinent part, mateypoops. Who is now doing an about turn and restricting the argument to 'America'? I pointed out that the Arabs enslaved more Africans than whites did (up to 18 million of them) and for over a longer period of time than the whites did. And like it or not, it was the whites who ended trans Atlantic slavery and at least tried to in other areas. Indeed, after the British put an end to the transAtlantic slave trade and after they had colonized a large part of East Africa, this also put an end to the Arab slave trade in their part of east Africa, which hitherto had had a free reign there. There were actually plenty of benefits of white colonization. I'm sick and tired of blacks who don't even know their own history only ever bitching about what 'whitey' did. It's all 'whitey this' and 'whitey that'. Most of them haven't even got a clue how the whites got their hands on the black slaves in the first place. The whites didn't go into the interior of west coast Africa to capture slaves. No, the blacks did that, brought them back to the coast to the waiting ships and sold their own fellow blacks off to the whites for profit. They got rich out of it too. A completely factual aspect of slavery that many blacks do not wish to acknowledge. European nations were never (to my knowledge) outright colonized by each other the way they did in Africa c.1880. And who the fuck cares who 'invented' it? The idea that absolvent of culpability is based on precedence is pretty weak. Shit, what did the Romans do? What did the Vikings do? What did the Normans do? Geesh. Did you miss WW2? Have you not read about what the Nazis did in eastern Europe and how they took over the place and have you not read about what the Soviets did during the Cold War? Son, go back to school will ya. ....Actually ex British colonies were left in relatively stable conditions. The infrastructure was there, road and rail networks were there. Schools and hospitals were there. Now, if some black African desspot twat dictator like Idi Amin or Robert Mugabe comes alone and ruins the f-ucking place you can't blame whitey for that. Bravo! Well played sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit_ Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) Now I'm being compared the "The Architect" (Mr. Rove)? I take that as a compliment. I'm not in his league, but I do seem to have the power to form opinions here like few others. Sort of a legend I am. You're not a "legend", you're "infamous". Big difference. But the problem Obama made for himself with the pin scandal, was that Obama made a point to try and explain why he thought not wearing one at the time was being more patriotic. You and your penchant for playing fast ands loose with the facts. Obama didn't claim he was being "more patriotic" by not wearing a lapel pin, he was merely making the point that wearing a lapel pin is NOT a measure of one's patriotism. How foolish many republicans must have felt, knowing he was absolutely right. Point scored: Obama. It was a lame explanation that he now has to wear that around his neck. But at least some of his handlers have since talked some sense into the man. Now he wears the pin quite often. Which does not help him in the area of "wuss factor." He wears a lapel pin when he wants to. He's his own man. He made his point. The point struck home. And now when he wears one people know he's not wearing it just because its expected of him. No wuss factor is that, bud. Afaic, the wuss is the guy who wears one simply because its expected of him by a bunch of misguided fools. Now that's a wuss! Anyway,.. I realize the facts are irrelevant to you; your agenda is merely to keep the non-issue issue alive and.. it seems I've taken your bait. Damn you, Del! *shakes fist* I can't wait for romorrow's PIPS! [edited to add] Request: Please Del,.. make tomorrow's PIPS the Fox News reported *http://youtube.com/watch?v=G_vmQrTi3aM*! Pleeease! Edited June 10, 2008 by Hermit_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Zeppnile Posted June 10, 2008 Author Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) You're not a "legend", you're "infamous". Big difference. You and your penchant for playing fast ands loose with the facts. Obama didn't claim he was being "more patriotic" by not wearing a lapel pin, he was merely making the point that wearing a lapel pin is NOT a measure of one's patriotism. How foolish many republicans must have felt, knowing he was absolutely right. Point scored: Obama. He wears a lapel pin when he wants to. He's his own man. He made his point. The point struck home. And now when he wears one people know he's not wearing it just because its expected of him. No wuss factor is that, bud. Afaic, the wuss is the guy who wears one simply because its expected of him by a bunch of misguided fools. Now that's a wuss! Anyway,.. I realize the facts are irrelevant to you; your agenda is merely to keep the non-issue issue alive and.. it seems I've taken your bait. Damn you, Del! *shakes fist* I can't wait for romorrow's PIPS! [edited to add] Request: Please Del,.. make tomorrow's PIPS the Fox News reported *http://youtube.com/watch?v=G_vmQrTi3aM*! Pleeease! Tomorrow we will talk about Obama's wussy photo on a bicycle. He looked more nerdy than Urkel. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5isOFwdb...TI1gMgD9162UB80 Edited June 10, 2008 by Del Zeppnile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bomber Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Not at all, you silly Irishman! You see, it's the lapel pin that tells us who they really are, and what really matters (their "patriotism", of couse). And don't you say otherwise, or I will insult your country because mine is superior! With superior edumacation and everything, so.....rest easy, there. As you can tell the voters have it well in hand.....and if you're not convinced by the last 8 years you must be nutso. Got it, now? Good. I will give you ONE thing you have way better in America,surprisingly enough;healthcare,Michael Moore can bitch all he wants and sure,America's healthcare isn't GREAT but we actually have to remind our doctors to wash their hands!That's page 1 in "how to be a doctor" for gods sake! I always thought it was incredibly ironic that GWB is one of the greatest promoters of democracy worldwide,yet he lost the popular vote and only won through the electoral college,a bad idea IMO. In fact,the system in America is rather ironically,not a perfect democracy,it's presidential,which takes focus onto two parties,and uses the electoral college,it's good enough though,in England they have a Monarchy,not very Democratic,in Ireland we have a parliament,but we've only had ONE party in power since 1983 ((I think,if it wasn't for the use of coalitions we would be thoroughly corrupt,Fíanna Fáil and Sinn Féin are the only parties to resort to assassination,unless you count Michael Collins of Fine Gael but he died before they formed,anyway,the problem is Fíanna Fáil have led us to MASSIVE economic success [Per head,we make more income tan even America!And that includes the Polish immigrants,who we then beat to death,but nevermind!] at the price of perfect democracy) I suppose America will have to do for the epitome of democracy,for now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthekingshorses Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Where have you been , it's the lapel pins that really matter. no kidding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorer714 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Boy,this thread has really cooled down today.Probably a good thing though,cuz it sure is hot out again. Thanks for the entertainment Del Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electrophile Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 The O train will go the route of the steam engine by election time. That's if it doesn't derail before then in the racist race. I wonder if we can guess who you are within a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Where have you been , it's the lapel pins that really matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit_ Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Tomorrow we will talk about Obama's wussy photo on a bicycle. He looked more nerdy than Urkel. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5isOFwdb...TI1gMgD9162UB80 There's a campaign strategy at play there, Del. The "geek on a bike" photos are meant to show guys like you (and Pb) that Obama's not such a scary black guy afterall. There's a rumor going around the internet *ahem* that Obama's next photo op is gonna be on American Idol.. where'll he'll attempt to further assure you that he's not a scary black dude by singing a few Elvis Presley tunes (you know,.. rather than rapping to Public Enemy's "Fight the Power"). Here's a photo I found at the Fox Noise Network website which they claim is from one of Obama's rehearsal sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suz Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Tomorrow we will talk about Obama's wussy photo on a bicycle. He looked more nerdy than Urkel. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5isOFwdb...TI1gMgD9162UB80 Okay, that picture made me laugh out loud. Foshizzle (said in a Dave Chappelle impersonating Tiger Woods voice) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pb Derigable Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I'm for true conservative fiscal responsibility, which the Republicans are failing to deliver. I'm against socialist government, but find our current foreign policy to be the greater of the two evils. I'm against inexperience, but FOR change....TRUE CHANGE! I'm for the troops, but against using them to line the pockets of the oil barons. I'm for America and think that it's time to start taking care of our own domestic troubles, before we stick our noses in everyone else's business. Since I live in Washington State, which is experiencing record cold temperatures and winter-like weather in JUNE, I'm FOR global warming....... it's just that I don't think that man can change global climate enough to stop the impending global cooling that will inevitably occur. An education in geology would be really great for someone like Al Gore. I don't like Obama. I hope that America has learned something from the last 7 years. We will be stuck with the lesser of two evils because America is a land of weak-minded people that can no longer stand together to do what is right for everyone. The Two Party System is a dismal failure, it's time for Americans to take a stand and electing Obama is the closest thing to the taking that step. I disaagree on the last part, but i do see your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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