INTERNET RUMORS ABOUT MICHELLE OBAMA'S RACIST COMMENTS

[Del Zeppnile]

Del, youre an asshole.

You are dissing a man becasue he didn't want to show up his wife, pastor and best freind by supporting america and making them look bad.

Oh i bet you think Obama should take the oath of office too and put his hand on the bible.

We don't need proud americains running this country. We should be ashamed we are the greatest, most powerfull country in the world. We should be ashamed we gave the world, the Plane, the light bulb, and the internet. We should not have the right to defend our selves.

Pabacks are a bitch and judgement day is coming for the white man.

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Edited June 8, 2008 by Del Zeppnile

[Hermit_]

Anybody heard a logical reason yet why Obama won't wear the United States Flag pin or why he refused to salute the flag?

Are you taking over for Karl Rove, or what, Del?

You should rename this thread the "Petty Idiotic Political Smears thread".

Fwiw..

Obama does wear an American flag

lapel pin and he does salute the flag.

You know,.. when its appropriate to do so.

You know,.. like any reasonable American would.

Not that I expect you to have any understanding

of how reasonable people act and think, mind you.

[Deezer]

For the record, if you saw Obama's speech to AIPAC, you would've saw that he wore a flagpin with both the United States and Israeli flags on it.

Besides, that's a bullshit excuse to not vote for somebody. I'll stick to the issues, like our economy and the war, when choosing whether to vote for Obama or McCain, for which I've not decided. Everybody has personal flaws and has made mistakes, what matters is what each one will do to make our country better. Period. Everything else is bullshit.

[Hermit_]

Paybacks are a bitch and judgement day is coming for the white man.

And its coming sooner rather than later if GWB and

John "bomb, bomb, bomb" McCain have their way.

[Suz]

Calling Obama an America hater is really getting old. If that's how low it gets, fine. Bush is the America hater. He sends our young people to die in a war that didn't have a damn thing to do with 9/11 and used our own fear against us to justify it. That's right, fear. I was afraid on 9/11, weren't you? I was scared to death. Wondering if every city was gonna be attacked, wondering how fast I could get to my kid's school. It was only a tiny taste of what the mothers of our soldiers and the mothers in Iraq are going through every day.....and for what? We had the whole world on our side when we were attacked and went into Afganistan, and lost them when we went into Iraq. I didn't buy the reasons for going into Iraq at all. I looked and read and searched, but I was never convinced.

I support Obama because he was one of the few who saw through the fearmongering and had the guts to speak out. Everyone else stood there like a bunch of sheep, afraid of being labeled as unpatriotic, even though some of them KNEW it was wrong.

So get off on your internet rumors all you want. Half-wit Dubya and Dick the Prick can't get outta town soon enough for me. The CEOs of America, Inc. need to retire. As far as I'm concerned they are war criminals.

[Del Zeppnile]

Calling Obama an America hater is really getting old. If that's how low it gets, fine. Bush is the America hater. He sends our young people to die in a war that didn't have a damn thing to do with 9/11 and used our own fear against us to justify it. That's right, fear. I was afraid on 9/11, weren't you? I was scared to death. Wondering if every city was gonna be attacked, wondering how fast I could get to my kid's school.

And has America been attacked since 9/11?

How quicky some people forget.

It was only a tiny taste of what the mothers of our soldiers and the mothers in Iraq are going through every day.....and for what? We had the whole world on our side when we were attacked and went into Afganistan, and lost them when we went into Iraq. I didn't buy the reasons for going into Iraq at all. I looked and read and searched, but I was never convinced.

You may believe we had the whole world on our side, but that did not prevent us from being attacked on 9/11 did it? The U.S.S. Cole, embassy bombings, Beruit and on and on.

I greive for our soldiers just as much as the next person, but I also understand the reasons for and the importance of their sacrifice and comittment.

I support Obama because he was one of the few who saw through the fearmongering and had the guts to speak out. Everyone else stood there like a bunch of sheep, afraid of being labeled as unpatriotic, even though some of them KNEW it was wrong.

And so what... that made you FEEL GOOD didn't it? But what experience does Obama have that is going to make you FEEL safe if he is the president? Because he is going to go and talk to terrorists? Because you are confident that his charm and eloquent speech making ability is going to convince the Iranian President to disband his desire to develop a nuclear bomb? Because Obama is going to smile at the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and convince them to stop supporting terrorism in Iraq, Lebanon and Syria?

Good luck with that.

So get off on your internet rumors all you want. Half-wit Dubya and Dick the Prick can't get outta town soon enough for me. The CEOs of America, Inc. need to retire. As far as I'm concerned they are war criminals.

So who do you want to run our American businesses? Joan Baez, Ward Churchill and Reverend Al?

At least admit that you are dyed in the wool socialist.

Peace

Edited June 9, 2008 by Del Zeppnile

[wanna be drummer]

...because America never had a racist first lady or president before

Do you REALLY believe McCain hasn't uttered a single racist remark?

...more propaganda, I expect it will get worse!

The difference is that the country would flip out if McCain said anything racist during the campaign but this will go by unnoticed by most.

Is America racist? Yeah, we hate white people

[Uncle Bill]

The difference is that the country would flip out if McCain said anything racist during the campaign but this will go by unnoticed by most.

Is America racist? Yeah, we hate white people

<nods> you got that right

[Del Zeppnile]

So long as human's have eyes, we will be racist. That goes for dogs too. They do see in black and white.

Inner beauty? wtf?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. EYE's, get it?

No I don't get it.

Was I supposed to take the whole cube of sugar at one time?

[Dzldoc]

In America? Unless you know of some impressive esoteric history, that was pretty useless.

European nations were never (to my knowledge) outright colonized by each other the way they did in Africa c.1880. And who the fuck cares who 'invented' it? The idea that absolvent of culpability is based on precedence is pretty weak.

Giving back a fraction of what they pulled out in the first place is not incredibly impressive given the context. The American economy for the first 200yrs alone owes itself to the slave trade.

and seriously....Live freakin Aid is your arguement? It's raised nowhere close to a billion, let alone 'billions'. Doling out handouts after you completely fucked the place is not particularly altruistic.

...like I said, it brings up shameful history, and some people react to that in weird ways....like..I dunno....blaming the Arabs?

So why not just move to somalia? I have no guilt what so ever! Jesus Christ!

[Pb Derigable]

Unlike some liberals who threatened to leave if the repub wins, i will never leave this country, no matter who is elected. I will defend this country, from Foreign and domestic enemies. I am no pussy, I am no sore loser, If obama wins, I will call him my president. I'm not sure if he will act like my president if he gets elected.

I may move out of this country one day, but I will not give up my United States citizenship. I haven't lived in the town i grew up in for 4 years, but i still vote there and go to the Village meetings, because my mother and my sisters still lived there. I have a feeling I will run for office, but I'm not sure if it will be for my union, or my village. I'm allowed to run for both, but i think if i win, i should be completely committed to that office.

[Lake of Shadows]

Are you taking over for Karl Rove, or what, Del?

You should rename this thread the "Petty Idiotic Political Smears thread".

Whoa there!!!!!

No PIPS without Gladys. Nope, that wouldn't be right, not right at all.

[AllisonAdler]

It would be perverse to blame African-American slavery on anyone but America, but the rest of your history is pretty damn shaky here. The Arabs did sell black Africans to America, and one could cite numerous examples of inter-European colonization (and attempts thereof in recent history--Hitler anyone???). America also had the advantage of vast natural resources, which slavery sadly was used to exploit, but the slave trade itself was only a small part of the economy. Since it ended in 1864, less than 100 years after the official political beginning of the country, it would furthermore seem that 200 years is a rather grand overstatement.

In America? Unless you know of some impressive esoteric history, that was pretty useless.

European nations were never (to my knowledge) outright colonized by each other the way they did in Africa c.1880. And who the fuck cares who 'invented' it? The idea that absolvent of culpability is based on precedence is pretty weak.

Giving back a fraction of what they pulled out in the first place is not incredibly impressive given the context. The American economy for the first 200yrs alone owes itself to the slave trade.

Edited June 9, 2008 by AllisonAdler

[eternal light]

From about 1700 onward, the enslavement of African peoples was the principal method by which European societies appropriated foreign labor for their colonies. By the time the transatlantic trade ended, most of these African slaves were deployed mainly in the Caribbean, Brazil and the U.S. Southeast. In the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, tobacco production absorbed two-fifths of the slave laborers in the United States. By the end of the American Revolution, however, the three major Southern exports (tobacco, indigo, rice) had declined in profitability on the world market.

Simultaneously, cotton was required to fuel expansion of the English textiles industry, so world prices for that commodity underwent much less disruptive cyclical changes than other major Southern exports. Between 1810 and 1840, U.S. cotton production increased nearly tenfold, as plantations pushed westward to become concentrated in a long belt stretching from South Carolina through Texas. In almost every decade from 1810 to 1860, Lower South cotton production expanded three times faster than the agricultural output of the Upper South. "A continuation of rising demand for slaves in the West, a new surge of demand in the eastern tobacco region, and a slowdown in the rate of natural increase of the slave population all combined to double slave prices between the mid 1840s and the Civil War."

Between 1810 and 1860, slavery was abolished in most nations of the Western Hemisphere. In the United States, however, world demand for cotton triggered the largest internal forced migration of slave laborers that has ever occurred in the history of the world.

PUT IN MASTER'S POCKET: INTERSTATE SLAVE TRADING

AND THE BLACK APPALACHIAN DIASPORA

In Appalachians and Race: The Mountain South from Slavery to Segregation, edited by John Inscoe

(University Press of Kentucky, 2000)

filebox.vt.edu

Edited June 9, 2008 by eternal light

[Mangani]

In America? Unless you know of some impressive esoteric history, that was pretty useless.

I guess you didn't read THE OPENING POST ?

Del Zeppnile referred to this Obama woman bemoaning that 'whitey' has caused so much of 'African peoples' (note, not American) problems 'around the world'. The 'around the world' part was the most pertinent part, mateypoops.

Who is now doing an about turn and restricting the argument to 'America'?

I pointed out that the Arabs enslaved more Africans than whites did (up to 18 million of them) and for over a longer period of time than the whites did. And like it or not, it was the whites who ended trans Atlantic slavery and at least tried to in other areas. Indeed, after the British put an end to the transAtlantic slave trade and after they had colonized a large part of East Africa, this also put an end to the Arab slave trade in their part of east Africa, which hitherto had had a free reign there. There were actually plenty of benefits of white colonization.

I'm sick and tired of blacks who don't even know their own history only ever bitching about what 'whitey' did. It's all 'whitey this' and 'whitey that'. Most of them haven't even got a clue how the whites got their hands on the black slaves in the first place. The whites didn't go into the interior of west coast Africa to capture slaves. No, the blacks did that, brought them back to the coast to the waiting ships and sold their own fellow blacks off to the whites for profit. They got rich out of it too. A completely factual aspect of slavery that many blacks do not wish to acknowledge.

European nations were never (to my knowledge) outright colonized by each other the way they did in Africa c.1880.

Shit, what did the Romans do? What did the Vikings do? What did the Normans do? Geesh. Did you miss WW2? Have you not read about what the Nazis did in eastern Europe and how they took over the place and have you not read about what the Soviets did during the Cold War?

Son, go back to school will ya.

And who the fuck cares who 'invented' it?

I do because whitey didn't and whitey wasn't the only devil ever ever ever in the history of ever.

The idea that absolvent of culpability is based on precedence is pretty weak.

Now when did I ever say that whitey didn't engage in the slave trade and shouldn't be blamed for it? My point was that whitey alone shouldn't be blamed for it.

and seriously....Live freakin Aid is your arguement?

No, it was but one point to give you an example. Aid and help to black Africans still goes on and it will continue to carry on most likely to infinity.

It's raised nowhere close to a billion, let alone 'billions'.

I think you will find that aid to African countries from 'whitey' will have run to billions down the decades.

Doling out handouts after you completely fucked the place is not particularly altruistic.

Actually ex British colonies were left in relatively stable conditions. The infrastructure was there, road and rail networks were there. Schools and hospitals were there. Now, if some black African desspot twat dictator like Idi Amin or Robert Mugabe comes alone and ruins the f-ucking place you can't blame whitey for that.

..like I said, it brings up shameful history, and some people react to that in weird ways....like..I dunno....blaming the Arabs?

I'm blaming EVERYONE. That's the point you can't seem to get through your head. It wasn't just 'whitey'. Whitey was to blame, Arabs were to blame, fellow black Africans were to blame. Just singling out 'whitey is absolutely ridiculous and it shows a lack of historical perspective and knowledge.........although maybe that runs in the Omaba family because Barrack Obama claimed his grandfather helped to liberate Auschwitz. Well unless his grandfather was in the Soviet Red Army I can't possibly see how that can be true.

Edited June 9, 2008 by Mangani

[mos6507]

When people seriously aspire to the presidential suite, a higher standard applies.

Then how the hell did Bush get elected?

[Rorer714]

The difference is that the country would flip out if McCain said anything racist during the campaign but this will go by unnoticed by most.

Is America racist? Yeah, we hate white people

I think that the country "flips out" if anybody says anything racist,no matter who they are.

Maybe she was talking about Whitey Ford or even Whitey Herzog That's not racist that's just baseball!

I don't even find her supposed statement offensive.That's just MY opinion.Hell, she's probably right.

[allthekingshorses]

First let's be Clear on this thread...

Michelle was saying Why'd He not whitey.

In reference to President Bush, Michelle says...

Why’d he cut folks off medicaid?

Why’d he let New Orleans drown?

Why’d he do nothing about Jena?

Why’d he put us in Iraq for no reason?

How Larry Johnson wants you to hear it:

Whitie cut folks off medicaid?

Whitie let New Orleans drown?

Whitie do nothing about Jena?

Whitie put us in Iraq for no reason?

[Rorer714]

First let's be Clear on this thread...

Michelle was saying Why'd He not whitey.

In reference to President Bush, Michelle says...

Why’d he cut folks off medicaid?

Why’d he let New Orleans drown?

Why’d he do nothing about Jena?

Why’d he put us in Iraq for no reason?

How Larry Johnson wants you to hear it:

Whitie cut folks off medicaid?

Whitie let New Orleans drown?

Whitie do nothing about Jena?

Whitie put us in Iraq for no reason?

Hahahhahahaha! Why DIDN"T I think of that?

I think Whiteys' about to find out

[alwizard03]

I have heard many Black people say that because they are Black they cannot be racists.I don't believe it but that is the way it is.I don't fall for any of that.I as a white person don't owe anyone anything except for the Kids I have brought into this world.I have never owned a slave except for My son He says He was one for a while.My parents have never owned a slave except Me. Heck I can go back as far as My great grandparents for sure they were to poor to own a slave.My great grandfather could barley afford his mule.If She has said racist things then believe it or not She is a racist and if She is I would bet you My next paycheck He is to and if He wins it will come out in the next 4 years.People in this Country need to learn to work for what they want not wait for the Democrats to hand it to them.This Country got where it is by hard work and believing in a better life.Not by standing around waiting on a handout Rome had a lot of that going on when the Barbarians walked in the and took it all away.As for Slavery My ancestors were Irish and I can tell you

they were slaves long before America took its first slave .Well that is all I care to say on the matter I understand where the Young folks are coming from when I was a kid We thought We could make things better by Sit In's and Rallies I only attended 2 both fairly small and if we accomplished anything it was not what was planned .I don't believe We made America stronger probably the opposite.

We have to get America working get people off of welfare and food stamps and Disability unless they are really hurt.We have people down here who can not work but they can carry a portable Deer stand all over the woods or pack a Deer out of the woods after they kill it.We have people who find out a storm is coming and move all there stuff into storage and then bring in old raggedy stuff so they can collect insurance money.I am not talking about one or two.If a President could pick a couple of these and actually fix them during a Term I would be impressed but it has not happened so far.

We have people like the Woman from New Orleans after the storm Who made the comment to the News when She found out She might have to work and find Her own Home.She said they have been taking care of us all our lives and I don't think it is right I should have to go to work now.Well I don't think its right our tax dollars and social security money should go to Her.It was set up for people who really needed it but soft hearted people and politicians wanting a vote have been corrupting the system and giving to the useless and lazy for so many years that it really makes Me sick.

Only a small amount of this is really directed at the earlier comments the rest is My tirade against our way of life that really seems to be on a downward spiral.I have nothing against any of you on this forum you all seem to be really nice people .So please do not take this as a personal attack.I really think it is time for people to change their way of thinking a bit and when you have paid taxes as long as I have and never really see much good come from it it makes you wonder whats up with the world as we know it.The Woman I am talking about above had lived in a project her whole life .I know I should feel sorry for Her but I really dont .I have worked and went to school and joined the Military to better myself several family members including cousins and my mother have worked and went to night school if you want a better life go and get it dont stand around and cry about it.

Edited June 9, 2008 by alwizard03

[allthekingshorses]

Anybody heard a logical reason yet why Obama won't wear the United States Flag pin or why he refused to salute the flag?

Bad judgment, bad company, bad canidate

Ain't gonna be president....

I beg to differ.... He will be President.

So yes, it appears that is a legit photo and video. The poster of the video lists the statute of anthem ettiquette.. although he does leave off the title shown here in blue...

-CITE-

36 USC Sec. 301 01/02/2006

-EXPCITE-

TITLE 36 - PATRIOTIC AND NATIONAL OBSERVANCES, CEREMONIES, AND

ORGANIZATIONS

Subtitle I - Patriotic and National Observances and Ceremonies

Part A - Observances and Ceremonies

CHAPTER 3 - NATIONAL ANTHEM, MOTTO, FLORAL EMBLEM1A\1\ MARCH, AND

TREE

-HEAD-

Sec. 301. National anthem

-STATUTE-

(a) Designation. - The composition consisting of the words and

music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.

( Conduct During Playing. - During a rendition of the national

anthem -

(1) when the flag is displayed -

(A) all present except those in uniform should stand at

attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;

( men not in uniform should remove their headdress with

their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder,

the hand being over the heart; and

© individuals in uniform should give the military salute at

the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until

the last note; and

(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face

toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the

flag were displayed.

-SOURCE-

(Pub. L. 105-225, Aug. 12, 1998, 112 Stat. 1263.)

One question is..... Is Tom Harkin's Annual Steak Fry a Patriotic National Observance???

another question.... Do you put your hand on your heart EVERY time your hear the pledge?

and finally... has every candidate or President done it EVERY single time?

I mean really. And I do understand the lapel flag pin thing... to me it's like the magnet car ribbons. I'm not going to run out and get one to prove I care about our troops, I already care, I don't need to prove it.

It's silly to have to wear a lapel pin everyday to show you care about our country. I don't mind if my President takes those few seconds of his day to think about our country in more important ways.

Barack Obama has committed his career to public service. He is an outstanding communicater, his willingness and ability to connect with people will prove to be one of our best assets with him as President. Those who don't support him seem to think communication and the ability to speak has no importance. That is so far from true and a sad arguement to try to make him appear less of a candidate. He has an outstanding resume' and an absolute knowledge and understanding of our constitution, something that is severely lacking in the current admin.

[Pb Derigable]

Honestly, this does not call in his patriotism. when you group everything together, you can draw the conclusion very easily.

What this does call in his inexperience. You can't make mistakes like this on the campaign trail. Yeah, this really doesn't mean anything by themselves, but you can't let them have these little things to point to.

This guy has a few people around him, and nobody can remember to pin a flag on him or tell him to salute. and to give that excuse of it is a false showing of patriotism, is bull shit, because the majority America will not understand that, they will think it's probably easier to pin a flag on, or salute the flag, then to come up with an excuse.

This is like when the professional athletes get caught driving drunk, or get caught with the weed, you guys make 10 million dollars a year, have 10 people around at all times, and you can't have one of those fuckers drive you, or hold your weed.

[allthekingshorses]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp1mIYJNKWQ...feature=related

Found this little treasure... sorry if I'm way off topic here but it's relevent to the conversation and just a great clip.

John Prine

Flag Decal

Edited June 9, 2008 by allthekingshorses

[Rorer714]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp1mIYJNKWQ...feature=related

Found this little treasure... sorry if I'm way off topic here but it's relevent to the conversation and just a great clip.

John Prine

Flag Decal

That's one of my favorite Prine tunes.It's funny that I thought of that tune when all of this patriotic propaganda crap started...nice touch though!!!

[Uncle Bill]

First let's be Clear on this thread...

Michelle was saying Why'd He not whitey.

In reference to President Bush, Michelle says...

Why’d he cut folks off medicaid?

Why’d he let New Orleans drown?

Why’d he do nothing about Jena?

Why’d he put us in Iraq for no reason?

How Larry Johnson wants you to hear it:

Whitie cut folks off medicaid?

Whitie let New Orleans drown?

Whitie do nothing about Jena?

Whitie put us in Iraq for no reason?

Please post a link to where you saw the tape, I haven't been able to find it. Some nobama people are saying it doesn't even exist, but you've obviously seen it. Thanks

Edited June 9, 2008 by Uncle Bill