SteveAJones Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Possible "new date"...War Memorial in Rochester on December 26, 1966 Democrat and Chronicle (12/18/66) (Rochester, NY) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) Democrat and Chronicle (12/25/66) (Rochester, NY) Edited May 22, 2019 by SteveAJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Montreal cancellation in December 1966...date unconfirmed as I can find no other mention whatsoever of this in The Gazette archive The Gazette (12/17/66) (Montreal) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators sam_webmaster Posted May 22, 2019 Administrators Share Posted May 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, SteveAJones said: Possible "new date"...War Memorial in Rochester on December 26, 1966 Democrat and Chronicle (12/18/66) (Rochester, NY) in Russo's book: 1966 12/26 War Memorial Auditorium, Rochester, New York, US (with ? & The Mysterians and others as part of "Dick Clark's Christmas Tour") 12/27 Fifth Dimension Club, Ann Arbor, Michigan, US (with Richard & The Young Lions and December's Children) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators sam_webmaster Posted May 22, 2019 Administrators Share Posted May 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, SteveAJones said: Montreal cancellation in December 1966...date unconfirmed as I can find no other mention whatsoever of this in The Gazette archive The Gazette (12/17/66) (Montreal) Date was supposed to be Dec. 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 18 hours ago, sam_webmaster said: in Russo's book: 1966 12/26 War Memorial Auditorium, Rochester, New York, US (with ? & The Mysterians and others as part of "Dick Clark's Christmas Tour") 12/27 Fifth Dimension Club, Ann Arbor, Michigan, US (with Richard & The Young Lions and December's Children) 18 hours ago, sam_webmaster said: Date was supposed to be Dec. 27 Eye Thank Yew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris ingram Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Autographs from the Bristol corn exchange, signed on the 26th may 1967, this is the flyer the signed the week before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thozil Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 6/20/2019 at 11:02 AM, Chris ingram said: Autographs from the Bristol corn exchange, signed on the 26th may 1967, this is the flyer the signed the week before I have them as playing the Corn Exchange on the 23rd of May, and at the Tiles Club in London on the 26th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Would love to hear the recently surfaced (apparently privately) recordings of The Yardbirds that are thought to be from San Francisco (7/26/67) and Concord (5/29/68). http://ledzepnews.com/2020/08/17/previously-unheard-recordings-of-jimmy-page-performing-with-the-yardbirds-have-surfaced-online/ Edited September 7, 2020 by luvlz2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 On 6/25/2019 at 10:00 PM, thozil said: I have them as playing the Corn Exchange on the 23rd of May, and at the Tiles Club in London on the 26th. An interview with Jimmy Page was published in the May 20, 1967 issue of Record Mirror. I don't have it so I can't confirm if he discusses this upcoming show in particular or the tour itinerary in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, luvlz2 said: Would love to hear the recently surfaced recordings of The Yardbirds in San Francisco (7/26/67) and Concord (5/29/68) that have only been released privately apparently. Who has provided proof of the date and/or proof a recording exists? I show Dreja (possibly with Relf) went on a five day photographic excursion from May 26-30, 1968. Dreja said this five day break was deliberately planned in advance of the tour as they all realized it would be their last visit to the US before they left England and Dreja wanted to take the opportunity to shoot photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 3 hours ago, SteveAJones said: Who has provided proof of the date and/or proof a recording exists? I show Dreja (possibly with Relf) went on a five day photographic excursion from May 26-30, 1968. Dreja said this five day break was deliberately planned in advance of the tour as they all realized it would be their last visit to the US before they left England and Dreja wanted to take the opportunity to shoot photos. My mistake, they are thought to be from those dates according to the article I read over at Led Zep News. I edited my previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zep Hed Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 7 hours ago, luvlz2 said: Would love to hear the recently surfaced (apparently privately) recordings of The Yardbirds that are thought to be from San Francisco (7/26/67) and Concord (5/29/68). http://ledzepnews.com/2020/08/17/previously-unheard-recordings-of-jimmy-page-performing-with-the-yardbirds-have-surfaced-online/ FWIW the ChromeOxide Yardbirds database, which has been around for a while, includes the same set lists for these shows. Wonder where they got them from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Zep Hed said: FWIW the ChromeOxide Yardbirds database, which has been around for a while, includes the same set lists for these shows. Wonder where they got them from. Oh, Chrome Oxide. Yes, it's a worthwhile site but it also regurgitates that The Yardbirds played Luton on 7/7/68. I rest my case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators sam_webmaster Posted September 7, 2020 Administrators Share Posted September 7, 2020 14 hours ago, SteveAJones said: Who has provided proof of the date and/or proof a recording exists? I show Dreja (possibly with Relf) went on a five day photographic excursion from May 26-30, 1968. Dreja said this five day break was deliberately planned in advance of the tour as they all realized it would be their last visit to the US before they left England and Dreja wanted to take the opportunity to shoot photos. These dates are real. They're in Greg Russo's book & also have ads. They began circulating a few weeks ago from the master reels and are certainly worth hearing. The 1967 show may have already been circulating in poorer quality. I think I had it on cassette a long time ago, when I used to do the Yardbirds official site... will try to find it to compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 2 hours ago, sam_webmaster said: These dates are real. They're in Greg Russo's book & also have ads. They began circulating a few weeks ago from the master reels and are certainly worth hearing. The 1967 show may have already been circulating in poorer quality. I think I had it on cassette a long time ago, when I used to do the Yardbirds official site... will try to find it to compare. Eye Thank Yew, Sam. Will update my files accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zep Hed Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 4 hours ago, sam_webmaster said: These dates are real. They're in Greg Russo's book & also have ads. They began circulating a few weeks ago from the master reels and are certainly worth hearing. The 1967 show may have already been circulating in poorer quality. I think I had it on cassette a long time ago, when I used to do the Yardbirds official site... will try to find it to compare. Thanks, Sam. Do you agree with Steve that the Yardbirds' last gig was NOT Luton on 7/7/68? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators sam_webmaster Posted September 7, 2020 Administrators Share Posted September 7, 2020 44 minutes ago, Zep Hed said: Thanks, Sam. Do you agree with Steve that the Yardbirds' last gig was NOT Luton on 7/7/68? It was definitely scheduled (there's an ad/flyer for this gig), but as nobody seems to remember it taking place, I'd say it most likely did not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LurksReturnington Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Good news! I've discovered (on youtube, already) the (a) Mexican version of Over under sideways down. Avoisive of prepositions, this track entitled 'Tarzan is the man'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Brosemer Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 On 8/25/2016 at 3:38 PM, SteveAJones said: The Great Falls show was 8/14/66 with press coverage the following day. The Wichita show was 10/22/67, and The Cotillion marquee establishes The Yardbirds were billed with The Frantics on that date. Unsure about McCarty passing out in Wichita in '67 (apparently he did)...but he did pass out from heat exhaustion at the end of the show on 8/16/66 (at Hal-Baby's in Denver). Crystal Palace Guard was the support act and about 300 people attended. I was there in Wichita. I had also seen them the year before with Beck lead and Page on bass. The drummer did pass out during the second number. A local drummer replaced him. Jimmy stood beside him and pointed with his guitar at what to play on the drums. I thought the drummer was from the local group, California Connection, but that's only a vague memory now. This show was seminal moment for me, meaning that I was musically never the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 16 hours ago, Steve Brosemer said: I was there in Wichita. I had also seen them the year before with Beck lead and Page on bass. The drummer did pass out during the second number. A local drummer replaced him. Jimmy stood beside him and pointed with his guitar at what to play on the drums. I thought the drummer was from the local group, California Connection, but that's only a vague memory now. This show was seminal moment for me, meaning that I was musically never the same. California Connection? Interesting. I shall have to look into this further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 10/6/2020 at 11:54 PM, LurksReturnington said: Good news! I've discovered (on youtube, already) the (a) Mexican version of Over under sideways down. Avoisive of prepositions, this track entitled 'Tarzan is the man'. Wow! This would sound right at home in the middle of a Tarantino film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 15 hours ago, SteveAJones said: Wow! This would sound right at home in the middle of a Tarantino film. I couldn't agree more. Perhaps, an alternative song for the Twist competition at Jack Rabbit Slims in "Pulp Fiction." Now this would be cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 55 YEARS AGO: YARDBIRDS' 'LITTLE GAMES' STUMBLES, DESPITE JIMMY PAGE Nick DeRiso - July 24, 2022 Epic Little Games arrived on July 24, 1967, after another lineup shift for the Yardbirds. Yet something deeply interesting continued with their music. Jeff Beck and Paul Samwell-Smith had exited following the band's most critically and commercially successful period, opening the door for Jimmy Page to step forward as lead guitarist. At the same time, the zeitgeist was moving from a singles-focused format into the album era. Bands were broadly expanding songs in concert. There was freedom in the air. Just not in throwback producer Mickie Most's sessions. "You have no idea how quickly the Little Games album was recorded," Page told writer Tony Bacon in 2014. His approach was '"Right, red light's on, take, next ... , because Mickie Most didn't like albums. He only liked singles." Instead of stretching out, as the Yardbirds had been doing onstage with songs like "Dazed and Confused," they were racing through compact, more pop-leaning tracks in the studio. There were just four days allotted for recording. When co-founding bassist Chris Dreja and drummer Jim McCarty weren't available, Most simply subbed studio musicians - including Page's future Led Zeppelin bandmate John Paul Jones. The group in some cases never even had a chance to hear playbacks, which might be why "Little Soldier Boy" apparently ended up with a McCarty guide vocal where a trumpet was to have been. Page began his career as a sessions ace, so he knew how to manage this flurry of activity. "He was used to doing what people wanted in the best way possible," McCarty told Forbes in 2015. "He was precise and businesslike." Still, this was quite obviously a huge opportunity missed. Listen to the Yardbirds' 'Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Sailor' Relf and Dreja were often involved with songwriting on Little Games, but a powerful new songwriting tandem seemed to be developing between Page and McCarty. Their names appeared on six of the 10 songs from Little Games , including the duo-written "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Sailor." McCarty "brought in a lot of swing and a lot of drive to what we did," Page said in the liner notes for Yardbirds '68, "and he also wrote material in a really fantastic, unique way." At the same time, Page had come onboard during the Yardbirds' exciting shift from determined Eric Clapton-inspired classicism to Beck's free-form psychedelia. Page might have taken the group toward his previously unseen vistas, but Most made sure he was never given space to do so. The result was an album that will always be defined by what might have been -- or, to put a finer point on it, what would one day be: It's easy to draw a straight line, for instance, from the suspended guitars n "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Sailor" to Led Zeppelin's "The Song Remains the Same." Page also brings out the violin bow for the first time on record. "What is somewhat funny is I presented Mickie with the poppiest version," he says of "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Sailor" in Light & Shade: Conversations With Jimmy Page . "Here I am talking about shooting ourselves in the foot by doing pop stuff, but I really sort of enabled the situation by coming up with parts that were intentionally quite catchy. I guess I still had that instinct from doing sessions for all those years." "White Summer," a Page-written Little Games instrumental based on a traditional song, feels like the first pass on Led Zeppelin's "Black Mountain Side." Page made the connection clear by combining the songs during the band's early tours. It doesn't all point forward: The group-composed "Smile on Me" once again settles into the Yardbirds' spaced-out blues vibe. More often, however, Little Games tends to feel like a rushed-along early dress rehearsal for Led Zeppelin. Even the B-side of their final single, April 1968's pretty heavy "Think About It," swipes a solo Page had been employing during the Yardbirds' live updates of "Dazed and Confused." Listen to the Yardbirds' Live Version of 'Dazed and Confused' And with that, the last planks were nailed down on the bridge toward Led Zeppelin. "Dazed and Confused' is a song with a great rock 'n' roll story," McCarty said in 2013. "We played with Jake Holmes in New York when we had the last lineup -- Jimmy, Keith, Chris and myself -- and were looking for songs, as a lot of the group's creative chemistry had suffered after Paul and Jeff had gone. "I wandered backstage to watch the support act and heard some quite pleasant folky songs," McCarty added. "Then they played this song in a minor key with a very haunting guitar run down, and I immediately thought it would suit us. I went down to a record store in Greenwich Village, bought Jake's album, and we worked out our version -- later to be recorded by Zeppelin, becoming one of the classics of all time." Including "Dazed and Confused" might have bolstered the transitional Little Games, which instead drew little interest. The Yardbirds' final classic-era album finished at No. 80 in the U.S. and wasn't even released in the U.K. after its title-track lead single flopped. They halfheartedly toured the record before McCarty and Relf departed for Renaissance in July 1968 with McCarty later describing Mickie Most as the "protagonist in our downfall." "I really wanted the Yardbirds to continue, because I really believed in it," Page told Tony Bacon. "They wanted to try something else. They didn't want to be the Yardbirds anymore, so that's it." Dreja and Page began rebuilding again since there were more scheduled dates to play that summer -- but then Dreja quit, too. Page patched together the so-called New Yardbirds with Jones, Robert Plant and John Bonham, a configuration that remained into October 1968 before officially becoming Led Zeppelin. "Dazed and Confused" would continue evolving under the Zeppelin banner, getting heavier and darker and heavier still, to the point where any of Page's fans from the Yardbirds days were left just that way - dazed and confused. "It was pretty radical from anything else that they'd heard, that's for sure," Page told Cuepoint's Alan Light in 2014. "But it was meant to be. It was meant to scare the pants off of you!" https://ultimateclassicrock.com/yardbirds-little-games/ Edited October 20, 2022 by luvlz2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hummingbird69 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I don't know why it stumbled I like Little games and have listened to it many many times including the outtakes. It's eclectic but otherwise it's still interesting. Take a while, Think About It, Take a while Think aboouuuut it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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