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Coke Or Pepsi?

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QUOTE (marolyn @ Jun 22 2008, 04:23 AM) post_snapback.gifnow if we could only find a way to keep them down there... :D

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QUOTE (marolyn @ Jun 22 2008, 04:23 AM) post_snapback.gifnow if we could only find a way to keep them down there... :D

Dems fightin words varmit!

Rebel by choice! Southern by the Grace of God! B)

:D hey dzldoc......next time could you have your sister's husband's cousin's mother show some of that southern hospitality and toss me a cold one when i drift on by...

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:D hey dzldoc......next time could you have your sister's husband's cousin's mother show some of that southern hospitality and toss me a cold one when i drift on by...

You Got it Dawlin, come on down and pass a good time! :D:beer:

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I hate the South. If I could leave this hellhole, I would. I've seen too many Confederate flags for my liking. Stupid fuckers must still think it's the 1860s.

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I hate the South. If I could leave this hellhole, I would. I've seen too many Confederate flags for my liking. Stupid fuckers must still think it's the 1860s.

I didn't realize very many people still used it. Talk about unpatriotic!

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I hate the South. If I could leave this hellhole, I would. I\'ve seen too many Confederate flags for my liking. Stupid fuckers must still think it\'s the 1860s.

\"See that hole in the wall? Its called a door, use it.\" Always loved that quote.

Jimmy Page

JK

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\"See that hole in the wall? Its called a door, use it.\" Always loved that quote.

Jimmy Page

Yeah and don't let it hit em in the ass on the way out

never seen a more hateful attitude <_<

JK

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I hate the South. If I could leave this hellhole, I would. I've seen too many Confederate flags for my liking. Stupid fuckers must still think it's the 1860s.

Well I own one but to get it from Me you would have to pry it from my cold dead hands.

Why you ask has to do with heritage tradition and mostly because it is signed by Billy Gibbons,Greg Allman,Johhny Van Zant,Donnie Van Zant,Ronnie Van Zant,Gary Rossington,Ed King,Artymas Pyle,

Dereck Trucks, Ritchie Medlock,Leon Wilkenson,Charlie Daniels,well its a long list.

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Ah, yes that good old Southern heritage and tradition......like slavery, racism, lynchings and Jim Crow.

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I don't have one. I was born in the South, but my parents are from up North. I've heard you need to be 3rd generation (or more) to be a true southerner (or maybe it's true Virginian?)

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Ah, yes that good old Southern heritage and tradition......like slavery, racism, lynchings and Jim Crow.

You sound like a racist to me.

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You sound like a racist to me.

If that was even moderately intelligent I might be offended. But since it's shit, I won't bother. My post was sarcastic, dumbfuck.

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If that was even moderately intelligent I might be offended. But since it's shit, I won't bother. My post was sarcastic, dumbfuck.

So it goes from sarcastic to idiodic?

Congratulations. I'm impressed twitwad.

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Rorer you need to share those ludes, lol. Everyone on this thread could use one or two with their colas...lol (don't forget to save a couple for yourself)...:)

A Northern girl who loves the Southern beaches and resorts...i love all parts of my beautiful country in fact.

Some facts about your colas:

The Health Hazards of Drinking Coca-Cola and other Soft Drinks

<www.NewsTarget.com>

Wednesday, February 16, 2005

Source: http://www.newstarget.com/004416.html

The health effects of drinking soda - quotes from the experts

This is a compilation of quotes about the destructive health effects of soft

drinks from some of the leading authors on health, nutrition and junk food.

This full list, and much more information, is included in The Five Soft

Drink Monsters downloadable ebook.

Michael Murray ND and Joseph Pizzorno ND

Encyclopedia of Natural Medicine, Revised Second Edition

"The allergenicity of penicillin in the general population is thought to be

at least ten percent. Nearly 25 percent of these individuals will display

hives, angioedema, or anaphylaxis upon ingestion of penicillinS. hives and

anaphylactic symptoms have been traced to penicillin in milk, soft drinks,

and frozen dinners."

"Many general dietary factors have been suggested as a cause of

osteoporosis, including: low calcium-high phosphorus intake, high-protein

diet, high-acid-ash diet, high salt intake, and trace mineral deficiencies.

It appears that increased soft drink consumption is a major factor that

contributes to osteoporosis. A deficiency of vitamin K leads to impaired

mineralization of bone. Boron deficiency may contribute greatly to

osteoporosis as well as to menopausal symptoms."

"Soft drinks have long been suspected of leading to lower calcium levels

and higher phosphate levels in the blood. When phosphate levels are high and

calcium levels are low, calcium is pulled out of the bones. The phosphate

content of soft drinks like Coca -Cola and Pepsi is very high, and they

contain virtually no calcium."

"The United States ranks first among countries in soft drink consumption.

The per-capita consumption of soft drinks is in excess of 150 quarts per

year, or about three quarts per week."

"Soft drink consumption in children poses a significant risk factor for

impaired calcification of growing bones."

"Of the fifty-seven children who had low blood calcium levels, thirty-eight

(66.7 percent) drank more than four bottles (12 to 16 ounces per bottle) of

soft drinks per week, but only forty-eight (28 percent) of the 171 children

with normal serum calcium levels consumed as much soft drink S These results

more than support the contention that soft drink consumption leads to lower

calcium levels in children. This situation that ultimately leads to poor

bone mineralization, which explains the greater risk of broken bones in

children who consume soft drinks."

"Soft drink consumption may be a major factor for osteoporosis as they are

high in phosphates but contain virtually no calcium. This leads to lower

calcium levels and higher phosphate levels in the blood. The United States

ranks first among countries for soft drink consumption with a per capita

consumption of approximately 15 ounces a day."

James A Howenstine M.D.

A Physician's Guide to Natural Health Products That Work

"In an interesting experiment the sugar from one soft drink was able to

damage the white blood cells' ability to ingest and kill gonococcal bacteria

for seven hours."

"Soft drinks also contain large quantities of phosphorus, which when

excreted pulls calcium out of the bones. Heavy users of soft drinks will

have osteoporosis along with their damaged arteries."

James Duke PhD

The Green Pharmacy : The Ultimate Compendium Of Natural Remedies From The World's Foremost Authority On Healing Herbs

"And watch out for cola soft drinks, which are very high in bone-dissolving

phosphorus."

Marion Nestle

Food Politics: How the Food Industry Influences Nutrition (see related ebook

on nutrition) and Health (California Studies in Food and Culture)

"Soft drinks are the single greatest source of caffeine in children's

diets; a 12-ounce can of cola contains about 45 milligrams but the amounts

in more potent soft drinks can exceed 100 milligrams< a level approaching

that found in coffee."

"Soft drinks have replaced milk in the diets of many American children as

well as adults. School purchases reflect such trends. From 1985 to 1997,

school districts decreased the amounts of milk they bought by nearly 30% and

increased their purchases of carbonated sodas."

"The relationship between soft drink consumption and body weight is so

strong that researchers calculate that for each additional soda consumed,

the risk of obesity increases 1.6 times."

"Adolescents who consume soft drinks display a risk of bone fractures three

to four-fold higher than those who do not."

"Sugar and acid in soft drinks so easily dissolve tooth enamel."

"Americans drink 13.15 billion gallons of carbonated drinks every year."

William Duffy

The doctor speaking in these dialogs is, Dr. McCay, the nutritionist at the

Naval Medical Research Institute.

"I was amazed to learn," he testified, "that the beverage contained

substantial amounts of phosphoric acid. . . . At the Naval Medical Research

Institute, we put human teeth in a cola beverage and found they softened and

started to dissolve within a short periodS The acidity of cola beverages ...

is about the same as vinegar. The sugar content masks the acidity, and

children little realize they are drinking this strange mixture of phosphoric

acid, sugar, caffeine, coloring, and flavoring matter."

Carol Simontacchi

The Crazy Makers: How the Food Industry Is Destroying Our Brains and Harming Our Children

"One liter of an aspartame-sweetened beverage can produce about fifty-six

milligrams of methanol. When several of these beverages are consumed in a

short period of time (one day, perhaps), as much as two hundred fifty

milligrams of methanol are dumped into the bloodstream, or thirty-two times

the EPA limit."

"What may happen, in the face of day-to-day, continuously high levels of

sodium in the diet and the bloodstream, is that we experience a type of

acute hypernatremia its integrity, but enough to keep our sodium potassium pump slightly

dysregulated and throw off the electrical system of the brainS. Americans

drink soft drinks that are often loaded with more sodium and which further

unbalance the mineral stores."

Greg Critser

Fat Land : How Americans Became the Fattest People in the World

"A joint study by Harvard University and Boston Children's Hospital

researchers in February 2001 concluded that such excess liquid calories

inhibited the ability of older children to compensate at mealtime, leading

to caloric imbalance and, in time, obesity."

"One extra soft drink a day gave a child a 60 percent greater chance of

becoming obese. One could even link specific amounts of soda to specific

amounts of weight gain. Each daily drink added .18 points to a child's body

mass index (BMI). This, the researchers noted, was regardless of what else

they ate or how much they exercised. "Consumption of sugar [high fructose

corn syrup]-sweetened drinks," they concluded, "is associated with obesity

in children."

Samuel S. Epstein MD

The Safe Shopper's Bible : A Consumer's Guide to Nontoxic Household Products

"Saccharin is a 100-year-old non-nutritive, non-caloric sweetening agentS

its use has exploded over the last twenty years as a staple of the diet food

and drink craze. Its major current consumption is in diet pop by teenagers,

and not by diabetics and the obese. The public now firmly believes that

foods containing saccharin are effective in weight control, and has been

persuaded by the soft drink industry (through the Calorie Control Council)

that these benefits outweigh any possible health risks."

"More than a dozen animal tests over the last thirty years have

demonstrated the carcinogenic effects of saccharin in the bladder and other

sites, particularly female reproductive organs, and in some instances at

doses as low as the equivalent of one to two bottles of diet pop daily."

"The public board of inquiry concluded that experimental data "¹Sdo not

rule out an oncogenic effect of aspartame, and that, to the contrary, they

appear to suggest the possibility that aspartame, at least when administered

in the 'huge' quantities employed in the studies, may contribute to the

development of brain tumors.¹" Until these controversial findings on brain

cancer in experimental animals have been resolved, use this product

sparingly, if at all."

"PET bottling and packaging: Polyethylene terephthalate (PET) is used

extensively in soft drink containers. PET bottles can release small amounts

of dimethyl terephthalate into foods and beverages. Although the National

Cancer Institute claims that dimethyl terephthalate is noncarcinogenic,

these results have been questioned. Some experts believe this compound to be

carcinogenic."

Neal Barnard MD

Foods That Cause You to Lose Weight: : The Negative Calorie Effect

"Another advantage of avoiding sodas is that you will avoid the caffeine

that is in many of them. Caffeine is a weak diuretic that causes calcium

loss via the kidneys."

Dr. Earl Mindell

Earl Mindell's New Vitamin Bible

"Recent research has linked soft drinks with childhood obesity< and an

estimated 200 school districts nationwide have contracts with soft drink

companies that give them exclusive rights to sell their products in

schools."

"Saccharin is a noncaloric petroleum derivative estimated to be three

hundred to five hundred times sweeter than sugarS It's used in diet soft

drinksS Studies done in the 1970s linked saccharin ingestion to bladder

cancer in laboratory animals"

"Children who drink large quantities of diet sodas containing aspartame are

particularly vulnerable to its dangerous side effects."

"Aspartame contains methyl or wood alcohol, which can affect fetal brain

development."

"Twenty-one percent of the sugar in the American diet comes from soft

drinks! That's more than just an unhealthy consumption of empty calories. It

is a dangerous overload of caffeine and potentially hazardous,

nutrient-depleting additives."

"Soft drinks contain large amounts of phosphorus, which can throw off the

body's calcium/phosphorus ratio (twice as much calcium as phosphorus),

decreasing calcium as well as reducing your body's ability to use it."

"For anyone over age 40, soft drinks can be especially hazardous because

the kidneys are less able to excrete excess phosphorus, causing depletion of

vital calcium."

"Heavy soft drink consumption can interfere with your body's metabolization

of iron and diminish nerve impulse transmission."

"Cola drinks can interact adversely with antacids, possibly causing

constipation, calcium loss, hypertension, nausea, vomiting, headaches, and

kidney damage."

"Soft drinks can decrease the antibacterial action of penicillin and

ampicillin."

"Diet sodas that are low in calories are high in sodium. Too much salt in

the diet may cause more calcium to be excreted in the urine and increase the

risk of osteoporosis."

"Excessive consumption of soft drinks, which are high in phosphorus, can

also deplete you of calcium and increase your chances of osteoporosis."

Jean Carper

Food: Your Miracle Medicine : How Food Can Prevent and Cure over 100

Symptoms and Problems

"Tests at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine by Roland R.

Griffiths, MD, show caffeine withdrawal can strike people who drink a single

cup of strongly brewed coffee or drink caffeinated soft drinks everyday.

Further, Dr. Griffiths discovered that caffeine-withdrawal symptoms include

not only headache, but also fatigue, mild depression, muscle pain and

stiffness, flu-like feelings, nausea and vomiting."

"Those consuming at least one cup of a caffeine-containing beverage per

day, such as coffee, tea or soft drinks, were more prone to PMS. And the

more caffeine they consumed, the more severe their PMS symptoms."

Elson M Haas MD

The Detox Diet: A How-To & When-To Guide for Cleansing the Body

"Phosphorus is found in most foods but soda pops, diet popsS contain

especially high amounts. The ideal dietary phosphorus-calcium ratio is about

1:1. The ratio in the average American diet is often greater than 2:1 and

sometimes even 4:1 or 5:1. At those levels, excess calcium is removed from

bone and eliminated, blood levels are reduced, and there is bone

demineralization. A diet high in phosphorus and low in calcium has been

shown to cause bone loss and increase tissue calcification."

"Tooth loss, periodontal disease, and gingivitis can be problems,

especially with a high phosphorus intake, particularly from soft drinks. All

kinds of bone problems can occur with prolonged calcium deficiency, which

causes a decrease in bone mass. Rickets in children, osteomalacia (decreased

bone calcium) in adults, and osteoporosis (porous and fragile bones) can

occur when calcium is withdrawn from bones faster than it is deposited.

Fractures are more common with osteoporosis the United States are related to this prevalent nutritional deficiency

disease"

"High dietary phosphorus, as is found in a diet with meats, soft drinks,

and other convenience foods, can readily affect calcium metabolism.

Potential calcium deficiency symptoms may be more likely when the phosphorus

intake is very high. A low calcium-to-phosphorus ratio in the diet increases

the incidence of hypertension and the risk of colon-rectal cancer."

Barnet Meltzer MD

Food Swings: Make the Life-Changing Connection Between the Foods You Eat and Your Emotional Health and Well-Being

"But soft drinks are far from soft. High in phosphorous and phosphoric

acid, they infiltrate bodily fluids and corrode stomach linings, upset the

alkaline-acid balance of the kidneys, and eat away at your liver like

Hannibal Lecter. Soft drinks also contain hidden caffeine, refined sugar,

and artificial chemicals."

Ralph T Golan ND

Optimal Wellness

"Avoid processed foods and cola soft drinks; their phosphates can also

cause calcium loss and excretion."

Dr. Gary Null

"Natural Living" radio show

Gary Null's Power Aging

"A study on the relationship between caffeine and fertility found thatS

just one caffeinated soft drink per day was associated with a reduced

monthly chance of conception of 50 percent."

"It should be noted here that soft drinks are the number one source of

phosphorus in the American diet todayS According to Dr. Steenblock, excess

phosphorus is one of the major contributing factors to the development of

osteoarthritis."

James A May

United American Industries Inc.

"Absorption in primates is hastened considerably if the methanol is

ingested as free methanol as it occurs in soft drinks after the

decomposition of aspartame during storage or in other foods after being

heated. Regardless of whether the aspartame-derived methanol exists in food

in its free form or still esterified to phenylalanine, 10 percent of the

weight of aspartame intake of an individual will be absorbed by the

bloodstream as methanol within hours after consumption."

Marcia Zimmerman CN

The A.D.D. Nutrition Solution : A Drug-Free 30 Day Plan

"Sodium benzoate Sodium benzoate is used as a preservative (microbial

control) in foods, including soft drinks, fruit juices, margarine,

confections, pickles, and jams. Sodium preservatives add sodium to the diet

and reduce the availability of potassium. Some reported reactions to sodium

benzoate include recurring urticaria (rash), asthma, and eczema."

Overview:

The health effects of soft drinks - quotes from the experts

Source: http://www.newstarget.com/004416.html

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Rorer you need to share those ludes, lol. Everyone on this thread could use one or two with their colas...lol (don't forget to save a couple for yourself)...:)

A Northern girl who loves the Southern beaches and resorts...i love all parts of my beautiful country in fact.

Some facts about your colas:

Holy crap tangerine,it took me 5 minutes to delete that post.I'm going to need a lude just to read that crap :lol: I did read it backwards and it was all the same story. B)

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So it goes from sarcastic to idiodic?

Congratulations. I'm impressed twitwad.

No, the problem is with you. You thought I was serious, when it's plainly obvious that I wasn't. That's not my problem.

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No, the problem is with you. You thought I was serious, when it's plainly obvious that I wasn't. That's not my problem.

IMO, your always trolling with something anti social. History proves that.

So now who's problem is it?

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Holy crap tangerine,it took me 5 minutes to delete that post.I'm going to need a lude just to read that crap :lol: I did read it backwards and it was all the same story. B)

lol, well everyone ignored me the first time i mentioned it briefly, so i decided to try again...it's kind of my "duty" to inform people of health concerns. They call it "preventitive medicine" and "health promotion" and sometimes i feel compelled to preach a little. :)

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IMO, your always trolling with something anti social. History proves that.

So now who's problem is it?

You don't call someone a racist with no proof. That's irresponsible as hell and the fact you would just arbitrarily do that doesn't speak much for you. Who does something like that?

BTW, anti-social means not wanting the company of others, wanting to be alone. That word doesn't even fit in the context of the sentence you posted.

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lol, well everyone ignored me the first time i mentioned it briefly, so i decided to try again...it's kind of my "duty" to inform people of health concerns. They call it "preventitive medicine" and "health promotion" and sometimes i feel compelled to preach a little. :)

A LITTLE? I don't even preach THAT much when I go on a cigarette rant(not that I haven't) and I've got first hand info on that "preventive medicine"/"health promotion" :lol:

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You don't call someone a racist with no proof. That's irresponsible as hell and the fact you would just arbitrarily do that doesn't speak much for you. Who does something like that?

BTW, anti-social means not wanting the company of others, wanting to be alone. That word doesn't even fit in the context of the sentence you posted.

Only means anything to the legend you've created in your own deluded mind electrophile. I could care less if you have personal issues to resolve.

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A LITTLE? I don't even preach THAT much when I go on a cigarette rant(not that I haven't) and I've got first hand info on that "preventive medicine"/"health promotion" :lol:

Yeah, well i'm a woman...lol...so there!

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Only means anything to the legend you've created in your own deluded mind electrophile. I could care less if you have personal issues to resolve.

I have no personal issues to resolve. Nor have I created a "legend". Time for you to go bye-bye now.

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