The Rover Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Well to be fair Rock Band tends to release both the well-known and deep cut tracks for bands. Like Blondie, they had "Call Me" up first, but a few weeks later they had "Hanging on the Telephone." And another example, The Who 12-pack with songs specifically picked out by Daltrey and Townshend for the game. “Amazing Journey” “Baba O'Riley” “Behind Blue Eyes” “Eminence Front” “Going Mobile” “Leaving Here” “My Generation” (Live at Leeds) “Real Good Looking Boy” “Sea & Sand” “Summertime Blues” (Live at Leeds) “Who Are You” “Young Man Blues” (Live at Leeds) They left out some more popular songs for the deep cuts that truly rock. That's a cool selection for the game ! Congrats to The Who ! ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyrus Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 if Led Zeppelin needed to play concerts, do ads, release compilation albums, and appear in video games and movies in order to keep a fanbase, then they would have been dead nearly 28 years ago... my mind boggles at how anyone ever became a fan between the release of Coda and BBC Sessions... that's 15 years with no commercialism! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeptangerine Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I'm relieved Jimmy's stickin' to his guns saying NO to Rock Band. I didn't have a problem with the Cadillac commercial b/c Rock and Roll took up a whole 8 seconds, if that. This is different. Jimmy's more concerned about whole length song quality remastering being out of his control. I can understand this; would you trust just any newbie video geek to tinker with your life's most esteemed accomplishments? I think not. "Peter Mensch of Led Zeppelin's Q Prime Management says the band isn't comfortable granting outsiders access to their master tapes, a necessary step in creating the games. "It ain't about the money," Mensch added. Page has long been highly protective of Led Zeppelin's recordings – he oversees the remastering and any remixing of reissues personally." Here's this article, courtesy of MusicRadar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMcLov1n Posted July 7, 2008 Author Share Posted July 7, 2008 I'm relieved Jimmy's stickin' to his guns saying NO to Rock Band. I didn't have a problem with the Cadillac commercial b/c Rock and Roll took up a whole 8 seconds, if that. This is different. Jimmy's more concerned about whole length song quality remastering being out of his control. I can understand this; would you trust just any newbie video geek to tinker with your life's most esteemed accomplishments? I think not. "Peter Mensch of Led Zeppelin's Q Prime Management says the band isn't comfortable granting outsiders access to their master tapes, a necessary step in creating the games. "It ain't about the money," Mensch added. Page has long been highly protective of Led Zeppelin's recordings – he oversees the remastering and any remixing of reissues personally." Here's this article, courtesy of MusicRadar. It's not video geeks that remaster the songs for Rock Band, they are experts when it comes to audio equipment. And it wouldn't do any harm to get Jimmy in the audio room and oversee the remastering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyedye Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Seems Mr. Jones is right on the money, as usual. Jimmy Page says no to Guitar Hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeptangerine Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 It's not video geeks that remaster the songs for Rock Band, they are experts when it comes to audio equipment. And it wouldn't do any harm to get Jimmy in the audio room and oversee the remastering. Unless Jimmy does the interviews for whomever is hired to work with his songs, and he sits in the booth with the software engineers night and day, and he writes the instruction manual, I don't see him changing his mind anytime soon. He doesn't have the time for this. His time would be better spent writing an autobiography, don't you think? Now there's something he can control 100%, without apprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMcLov1n Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 Unless Jimmy does the interviews for whomever is hired to work with his songs, and he sits in the booth with the software engineers night and day, and he writes the instruction manual, I don't see him changing his mind anytime soon. He doesn't have the time for this. His time would be better spent writing an autobiography, don't you think? Now there's something he can control 100%, without apprehension. He probably just doesn't want to make time for it, which is understandable. It is, after all, a video game. Meh, he'll warm up to it one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolby32 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'm 13 and have liked led zeppelin for 3 years now and i didn't need my music video games. I don't like the idea of other kids who aren't true Zep fans saying they are, most people i meet say their favorite song is stairway . If you truly like LZ you would have found them already not through a video game (After hearing my dad always have Q104.3 on the radio i would then soot through our collossal cd collection to find the songs, which is how i came across Led) As much i would like to play the songs in the games, and this is coming from a kid who plays music games alot and loves Zep, keep Zeppelin off the games. its not a necessity. Plus i don't need any bitterness between page and plant. I don't want anything that may interfere with a tour. my rock band crap will be out the window in a second if its either having them in the game or a world tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat24 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 please don't commercialise them I agree. I personally don't think they should do it. Yes it's exposure to kids who might not have been introduced to Zeppelin yet. But, honestly I as a parent of 2 teenage kids don't think that we need video games to introduce Zeppelin or any other band really to todays youth. Zeppelin by and large promoted by word of mouth anyway. It seems to have worked for them in the past. If it ain't broke don't fix it. There's no reason people can't sit down with their kids and share the music. It's how I learned about Zeppelin. From my big brother who was always locked in his room blaring Dazed and Confused. And it's how my kids developed their own appreciation for Zeppelin. And alot of other bands. I sit with them when I watch the dvd's. In fact my son walked in the livingroom one night to find me with the lights off watching a Zeppelin dvd and he just stood there for a minute and said "Wow..that..was mind numbingly awesome". To do it just for the fun of playing the songs seems fun enough but, I just think there are other ways to enjoy the music besides commercialising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeptangerine Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'm 13 and have liked led zeppelin for 3 years now and i didn't need my music video games. I don't like the idea of other kids who aren't true Zep fans saying they are, most people i meet say their favorite song is stairway . If you truly like LZ you would have found them already not through a video game (After hearing my dad always have Q104.3 on the radio i would then soot through our collossal cd collection to find the songs, which is how i came across Led) As much i would like to play the songs in the games, and this is coming from a kid who plays music games alot and loves Zep, keep Zeppelin off the games. its not a necessity. Plus i don't need any bitterness between page and plant. I don't want anything that may interfere with a tour. my rock band crap will be out the window in a second if its either having them in the game or a world tour. You're a concerned and deep thinker for 13. When I was thirteen, Zeppelin took a "year off" which worried the heck out of me and all of my friends. I wasn't thinking about their personal problems, I was praying they'd get back in the studio and on the road again! Selfish, but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeptangerine Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Zeppelin by and large promoted by word of mouth anyway. It seems to have worked for them in the past. If it ain't broke don't fix it. There's no reason people can't sit down with their kids and share the music. It's how I learned about Zeppelin. From my big brother who was always locked in his room blaring Dazed and Confused. Me, too. I always knew my way home from first grade because Whole Lotta Love and Dazed and Confused was constantly blaring from my brother's open bedroom window. Are we related? Now a days, I share the music with my kids in the car. They do a great Immigrant Song intro on their way to school, too. I've got my own little video games who provide endless hours of entertainment singing and air guitar to Led Zep. Lucky me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Them On Back Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'm relieved Jimmy's stickin' to his guns saying NO to Rock Band. I didn't have a problem with the Cadillac commercial b/c Rock and Roll took up a whole 8 seconds, if that. This is different. Jimmy's more concerned about whole length song quality remastering being out of his control. I can understand this; would you trust just any newbie video geek to tinker with your life's most esteemed accomplishments? I think not. "Peter Mensch of Led Zeppelin's Q Prime Management says the band isn't comfortable granting outsiders access to their master tapes, a necessary step in creating the games. "It ain't about the money," Mensch added. Page has long been highly protective of Led Zeppelin's recordings – he oversees the remastering and any remixing of reissues personally." Here's this article, courtesy of MusicRadar. Are we talking about giving the makers of the game the actual original recordings and not just later copies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeptangerine Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Are we talking about giving the makers of the game the actual original recordings and not just later copies? The manager is quoted as saying "master tapes." Those are in Jimmy's possession, the originals. He's the keeper of the keys to anything he produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Them On Back Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 If people really want to be able to play Led Zeppelin songs, they should get real guitars real drums or real bass, instead of buying toys more expensive than the real instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeppelinJuice Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 i agree with jolby. i hate it when people say they are Zep fans, and cant even name 5 songs :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMcLov1n Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 If people really want to be able to play Led Zeppelin songs, they should get real guitars real drums or real bass, instead of buying toys more expensive than the real instruments. Standard Fender Stratocaster: $571.41 Tube Pro Junior Electric guitar amplifier: $499.99 Fender Standard Precision bass: $607.12 Rumble 15 combo bass amplifier: $216.65 DW Pacific PDP Z5 5-piece drum set with cymbals: $399.99 Professional microphone: $149.99 and that's leaving out the costs of lesson books or getting lessons from a teacher Rock Band bundle: $170 And music games aren't pretending to be playing real instruments, those are just gimmicks. It's just a new way to experience the music you love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayban123 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Aren't Zeppelin ring tones available now for purchase? Rock Band seems like a little bit of fun with a few guys over for a few drinks. Some folks need to loosen up a bit and chill. Life is too short to not enjoy some of this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMcLov1n Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 Aren't Zeppelin ring tones available now for purchase? Rock Band seems like a little bit of fun with a few guys over for a few drinks. Some folks need to loosen up a bit and chill. Life is too short to not enjoy some of this stuff. Verizon only I'm pretty sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef free Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 If those were my band's master tapes, I'd never let them out of my possession. Especially considering all that's happened to Jimmy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longliveLZ Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 i could care less if more people started to like Led Zeppelin because of video games...they already have plenty of fans. Also, i would hate to see people judge LZ from 1 song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walrus15427 Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Today it was announced that Rock Band 2 will be hitting the Xbox 360 this September and will feature "very high caliber bands." The developers said in an interview a few months ago that they have been talking to Led Zeppelin for over a year and having their music in the game is a possibility. They are also THE most requested band for the game. I'd just like to know how you guys feel about this. Personally, I'm not sure. Rock Band is my favorite game, yet, knowing Led Zeppelin they would probably only license one song, creating the phenomenon of one-song fans. Those people that say they are fans of Led Zeppelin because they like Stairway, then you ask what other songs they know, and don't know any. Those folk annoy the shit out of me. I would opt for what The Who, Grateful Dead and Boston did with RB and release several hit songs. If HMX just gives them a taste of the discography perhaps some young people who only listen to radio pop will buy a CD or two. amen like on guitar hero there is 1 primus song and i loved primus since i was 7 and now i ask them all primus's song and all the no is john the fisherman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunChild Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 if Led Zeppelin needed to play concerts, do ads, release compilation albums, and appear in video games and movies in order to keep a fanbase, then they would have been dead nearly 28 years ago... my mind boggles at how anyone ever became a fan between the release of Coda and BBC Sessions... that's 15 years with no commercialism! Exactly. This makes me wonder, from the technical side of things - if they use the master tapes to makes these games, how hard is it for black hat computer nerds to extract that data from the game and burn it elswhere, or otherwise mess with it? Something tells me we'll see this when they pry his Gibson from Jimmy's cold hands... and maybe not even then. If people really want to be able to play Led Zeppelin songs, they should get real guitars real drums or real bass, instead of buying toys more expensive than the real instruments. Amen. A decent steel string acoustic guitar doesn't cost much, and is a perfectly good place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainydaywoman Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Rock Band is such a fun thing to do with a group of friends and, selfishly, I would love it if it included some Zeppelin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMcLov1n Posted July 10, 2008 Author Share Posted July 10, 2008 Exactly. This makes me wonder, from the technical side of things - if they use the master tapes to makes these games, how hard is it for black hat computer nerds to extract that data from the game and burn it elswhere, or otherwise mess with it? You have no idea how hard that would be. And Rock Band has its own file type (which is why you can't just import an mp3). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsDaveMan Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 I remember back when they refused to allow iTunes to sell Zep songs. Their basis for not allowing them to do this wasn't a matter of them just being selfish, each album is arranged in a certain way that then band would feel enriched the listening experience, they didn't want to ruin the album experience. I'd rather hear Zep on an old scratchy record then out of my digital speakers any day of the week. Hell I wouldn't be suprised if it was something similiar with the Guitar Hero thing. And now that I think about it . . . all the people I know who play any of the guitar hero games avidly thinks Led has an "a" in it. When I was driving the other day I heard the DJ on the classic rock station mention that Jimmy was refusing to allow it, it made me feel great, especially in these times where every band I held true to my heart from growing up listening to them will let anyone play their music anywhere they want and do whatever to it. To play a guitar and make music worth listening you have to put every ounce of your heart and soul into every note and play until your fingers blister and bleed to get to that point. All I have to say to Led Zeppelin not allowing Guitar Hero to use their music is rock on. And to those who would use other examples of the band doing something similar like the Cadillac commercials . . . that's a luxury car, not to be put on caliber with a fat teenager who can use the hand he normally just beats off with to do something else, being click some buttons on a plastic neck, lets see him try and play I Can't Quit You Baby on a real guitar and get a real sense of accomplishment from that. Here's to the greatest band in the world staying true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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