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I think it shows her stance on abstinence-only education not only fails on a wide level (as case studies and peer reviews have shown) but it also fails on a personal level. But I agree, her pregnant kid should not be injected into this. The only thing that should be mentioned is that abstinence-only does not work and that there are methods that are far more responsible and intelligent.

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I agree that her daughter should be a non-issue, it's not relevant to anything.

However, regarding sex education, I don't see why schools have to waste their time. Social education like that should be taught by the parents, not teachers. But hey, this is America. What more can you expect?

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You said it because it was easier than defending your position with something of value. It's easy to call people names, and it reflects on you, not me.

What I said doesn't change the fact that you consistently post some of the most loathsome and hypocritical rhetoric - for instance...

i find it sad that the Dems will feel the need to tippy toe around this bitch. I say speak up, and don't let the female gender be an issue.

- that would be absolutely unacceptable if the same tack were taken towards Obama -

i find it sad that the Republicans will feel the need to tippy toe around this n-word. I say speak up, and don't let the black race be an issue.

I'd be banned in a minute.

You're worst than the left-wing media that keeps this issue first page when even Obama said it should be off-limits.

You said it because it was easier than defending your position with something of value.

And YOU keep resorting to smearing Palin because you can't fault her as a viable candidate, without trying to tie-in her personal family issues.

Weak.

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I'm not completely keen on the whole story, but lemme get this straight.

Sarah Palin is against teaching kids sexual education in school... And her 17 year old daughter is pregnant?

Is that the story here?

www.smh.com.au/news/us-election/ palin-picks-abstinence-over-sexed/2008/09/03/1220121275973.html

Palin picks abstinence

McCain's judgement questioned

Video:John McCain's judgement is called into question after his vice presidential pick raises a storm of controversy.

Baby bump surprise

Video:Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has announced the pregnancy of her unmarried teenage daughter.

Who is Sarah Palin?

Audio slideshow: Former communications director for John McCain says Sarah Palin is a risky choice.

John McCain, the man

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US Republican presidential candidate John McCain, whose presumptive running mate disclosed that her unmarried 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, has opposed proposals to spend federal money on teen-pregnancy prevention programs and voted to require poor teenage mothers to stay in school or lose their welfare benefits.

Alaska Governor Sarah Palin's announcement yesterday about her daughter Bristol was aimed at rebutting Internet rumors that Palin's youngest son, born in April, was actually her daughter's. Palin said her daughter intends to raise her child and marry the baby's father, identified in news reports as Levi Johnston, 18, of Wasilla, a high school hockey player whom Bristol has dated for about one year. The baby is due in late December.

McCain's record on issues surrounding teen pregnancy and contraceptives during his more than two decades in the Senate indicate that he and Palin have similar views. Until yesterday, when the subject surfaced in a deeply personal manner, teen pregnancy and sex education were not issues in the national political campaign.

Palin herself said she opposes funding sexual-education programs in Alaska. She has supported abstinence programs in schools.

"The explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support," she wrote in a 2006 questionnaire distributed among gubernatorial candidates.

McCain's position on contraceptives and teen pregnancy issues has been difficult to judge on the campaign trail, as he appears uncomfortable discussing such topics. Reporters asked the presumptive Republican presidential nominee in November 2007 whether he supported grants for sex education in the United States, whether such programs should include directions for using contraceptives or whether he supports President George W Bush's policy of promoting abstinence.

"Ahhh, I think I support the president's policy," McCain said.

When a reporter asked McCain whether he thought contraceptives help stop the spread of HIV, he replied: "You've stumped me." McCain said later that he was sure he opposed government spending on contraceptives. Asked whether he would oppose condom distribution if he knew that condoms stop the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, McCain said he had never got into those issues before.

The McCain campaign did not respond yesterday to repeated requests for information.

In Senate votes, McCain has opposed some proposals to pay for teen-pregnancy prevention programs. In 2006, McCain joined fellow Republicans in voting against a Senate Democratic proposal to send $US100 million ($A117.7 million) to communities for teen-pregnancy prevention programs that would have included sex education about contraceptives.

In 2005, McCain opposed a Senate Democratic proposal that would have spent tens of millions of dollars to pay for pregnancy prevention programs including education on emergency contraception such as the morning-after pill; teen-pregnancy prevention programs except abstinence-only education; and required insurance companies that cover Viagra also to pay for prescription contraception.

McCain voted for the Family Support Act in 1988, which passed overwhelmingly in the Senate and required teen mothers who receive public assistance to remain in high school and, in some cases, to live with their parents.

"Young parents who have not completed high school will be required to stay in or return to school to complete the basic education so necessary to a productive life," said President Ronald Reagan, as he signed the law in October 1988.

McCain cited abortion, sex education and birth control as some of the issues on which he differed with Joycelyn Elders, former President Bill Clinton's nominee for surgeon general. He quoted Elders as telling lawmakers that abortion has had positive health effects, including reducing the number of children "afflicted with severe defects."

"As a father of a number of young children, including an adopted daughter who was born with a birth defect, I am deeply, deeply troubled by these views," McCain said in a 1993 speech opposing Elders' confirmation.

Palin's fifth child, a son named Trig, was born in April with Down syndrome, a genetic abnormality that impedes physical, intellectual and language development. Conservatives supportive of Palin as McCain's running mate have praised her choice to deliver Trig even after the family learned about his condition during prenatal testing.

McCain said the country unarguably had a problem with teen pregnancy, but he said Elders' approach would make it worse. He said Elders started a program to distribute condoms in schools, but the rate of teen pregnancy rose in those counties. When it turned out many of the condoms were defective, Elders decided to continue the program rather than halt it or inform the public of the risk, McCain said.

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What I said doesn't change the fact that you consistently post some of the most loathsome and hypocritical rhetoric - for instance...

- that would be absolutely unacceptable if the same tack were taken towards Obama -

I'd be banned in a minute.

You're worst than the left-wing media that keeps this issue first page when even Obama said it should be off-limits.

And YOU keep resorting to smearing Palin because you can't fault her as a viable candidate, without trying to tie-in her personal family issues.

Weak.

You need to take that quote that you fabricated out and explain yourself for putting that down as if i said it!

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this quote was fabricated by Type 0 in an earlier post he made:

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i find it sad that the Republicans will feel the need to tippy toe around this n-word. I say speak up, and don't let the black race be an issue.

I want this explained. You said this, not me, and you call me names...

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The N-word is a good thing to black people when speaking to good friends or other black friends. Bitch on the other hand, is certainly always disrespectful.

Not really, I call my skinny friends "Skinny Bitch" all the time, it's a joke, between 2 bitches :D

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You need to take that quote that you fabricated out and explain yourself for putting that down as if i said it!

edit:

this quote was fabricated by Type 0 in an earlier post he made:

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i find it sad that the Republicans will feel the need to tippy toe around this n-word. I say speak up, and don't let the black race be an issue.

I want this explained. You said this, not me, and you call me names...

Actually, I think he did that to give it as the 'barak' version. At first, second, and third glance it does indeed look like it's part of your quote, but it isn't. It's his example... would've been better if he'd done it in a different color or put it in italics rather than simply put it in quote tags. There are a few folks, past and present, who like to do that sort of thing.

I don't think 'bitch' is comparable to the 'n' word and I think harping on that particular bit out of your post is rather nitpicky and/or beside the point. TypeO must be getting desperate.

*moves back to lurk mode*

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From above post where TypeO is trying to make the quote (with the n word) look like mine. This is his original post from the other Presidential thread. Since i don't know how to quote it from there to here it is copied. I don't appreciate someone lying and saying i said something that they made up themself.

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QUOTE (One Drop @ Aug 31 2008, 03:29 AM)

[source: RealClearPolitics.com]

Are you weeping yet, Medhb?

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Funny how you only post polls that take in the dem convention.

You seemed to have stopped posting polls when McCain was, for all intents and purposes, EVEN with B.O. going into the convention (where the convention party ALWAYS gets a bounce)?

The Biden announcement couldn't even bring a dead-cat bounce :lolo:

QUOTE (One Drop @ Aug 31 2008, 03:20 PM)

One Drop's 2-question poll:

Who do you think those 17% (cell phone only users) are more likely to support?

Progressive candidate Barack Obama or Old-timer candidate John McCain?

Who do you think those 31% (landline only users) are more likely to support?:

Progressive candidate Barack Obama or Old-timer candidate John McCain?

Point taken?

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One Drop's poll stereotypes:

Dems/Libs are hip/tech-savvy/ahead-of-the-curve

Republicans/Conservatives are stodgy/technophobes/behind-the-times

We dropped our landline over 2 years ago, as have many of the people I know, who I also know to be conservative/republican types.

And though I'm a graphic artist by trade, I also earn side money diagnosing/repairing computers, to include a local OB/GYN office.

The cell phone only user profile is a matter of smart (and conservative) financial management.

Just because I'm not an 18 yr old text-maniac who can't set his phone down doesn't mean I'm not tech-savvy.

And I use "I" as a representation, not me specifically.

Sure, the vast majority of old folks are conservative, and you libs can't stand that.

Ever wonder why people - in general - become more conservative the older they get?

Experience.

They've seen both sides and experience usually wins out over smoke and mirrors, or in B.O.'s case, clever theatrical backlighting to render a subtle "halo" around B.O. as he spoke to his worshippers from on high.

"OMG, you should have been there - it was like he was glowing! It gave me chillbumps!"

One Drop's 1-question poll:

Who do you think "newly registered voters" are more likely to support?

"Change" candidate Barack Obama or "More of the Same" candidate John McCain?

Funny how the dems are always targeting NEW voters every 4 years.

That's because they haven't gotten much experience in the real world yet.

And those are the ones dems/libs have the best chance of snookering.

"Look at us, we're hip, cool and oh so different"

Get yer tattoos and piercings to show your individuality, just like the other 100 million people who have done the same thing.

QUOTE (~tangerine~ @ Aug 31 2008, 04:54 PM)

First of all, Fox News " is " Republican Central, always biased, always will be. That is a well known fact.

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U mad?

You only seem to have a problem when the bias is conservative.

Truth, she is a friggin "hockey" mom, ex runner-up Miss Alaska. Yeah, when i watch a beauty pagent i think to myself, gee, she would make a great VP some day, not. The rest of her credentials are lame as well. John McCain was thinking with his , lol....figures. With the country in the sad place we are, i had hoped for a more responsible choice. Just shows his character (or lack of).

The main reason i answered this post is because i find it sad that the Dems will feel the need to tippy toe around this bitch. I say speak up, and don't let the female gender be an issue. She can take it. She's a gun shooting, wolf shooting supporter, death penalty supporting (isn't that a contradiction to the pro-life stance???), big woman with the Oil men, broad. I don't see why anyone should have to watch what they say. I bet she can curse like a sailor any day, lol. I do hope that Hillary will have the guts to speak up for the rest of women who are ashamed of McCain's insinuation that we are too stupid to see his plot for what it is.

Wow.

Hmmm, let's run that post through the Minority Stereotype/Slur Translator and see how it would sound if a conservative were to use this response about B.O.

Truth, he is a friggin bourgie, ex athlete. Yeah, when i watch a basketball game i think to myself, gee, he would make a great POTUS some day, not. The rest of his credentials are lame as well. John McCain was thinking with his , lol....figures. With the country in the sad place we are, i had hoped for a more responsible choice. Just shows his character (or lack of).

The main reason i answered this post is because i find it sad that the Republicans will feel the need to tippy toe around this n-word. I say speak up, and don't let the black race be an issue. He can take it. He's a A-K shooting, GQ dressing, NAACP supporting, big man with the Oil men, broad. I don't see why anyone should have to watch what they say. I bet he can curse like a gangster rapper any day, lol.

Imagine if that had been said about B.O.

THEN everyone would be up in arms, because we know how racist those conservatives are.

THEN noone would be up in arms, because we don't care how sexist those liberals are.

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Actually, I think he did that to give it as the 'barak' version. At first, second, and third glance it does indeed look like it's part of your quote, but it isn't. It's his example... would've been better if he'd done it in a different color or put it in italics rather than simply put it in quote tags. There are a few folks, past and present, who like to do that sort of thing.

I don't think 'bitch' is comparable to the 'n' word and I think harping on that particular bit out of your post is rather nitpicky and/or beside the point. TypeO must be getting desperate.

*moves back to lurk mode*

Thank you Lake of Shadows. I ignored the post when he originally made it, allowing him his freedom of speech and not making an issue of what i thought was a bit of humor on top of his disgust. But to make it look like i said the quote using the N word, when in fact Type O is the one who said it. That is unacceptable.

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The N-word is a good thing to black people when speaking to good friends or other black friends. Bitch on the other hand, is certainly always disrespectful.

Oh please. The n word is a racial slur that has always provoked deep anger. It's the most prejudice word you can use in reference to a black person. A dog in heat is called a bitch. A person who complains is said to be bitching. etc...

I'd like to hear your reaction if someone made it look like you made a quote that you didn't...

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Oh please. The n word is a racial slur that has always provoked deep anger. It's the most prejudice word you can use in reference to a black person. A dog in heat is called a bitch. A person who complains is said to be bitching. etc...

I'd like to hear your reaction if someone made it look like you made a quote that you didn't...

Then why do black people get to use it whenever they wish?

This is horribly off-topic. If you want to start a thread about words then do so, but lets not continue this here please

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Palin slashed funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live

Was this her way of saying "Screw those trollops!"?

According to Passage House's web site, its purpose is to provide "young mothers a place to live with their babies for up to eighteen months while they gain the necessary skills and resources to change their lives" and help teen moms "become productive, successful, independent adults who create and provide a stable environment for themselves and their families."

Yes, why help these girls become productive members of society and NOT drains on welfare money.

Quick edit: Thanks to all the oil lease revenue, the state of Alaska has a $9 billion budget surplus this year. So, I guess without that $1 million cut, the surplus would've been only $8.999 billion. They could have afforded it.

Second quick edit: The money that was vetoed would have gone to facilities for sex education. http://www.adn.com/legislature/story/415749.html

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The N-word is a good thing to black people when speaking to good friends or other black friends. Bitch on the other hand, is certainly always disrespectful.

Well there is a difference...calling your friends "nigga" is not really using the n-word. Context matters.

The Game - Letter to the King

"The word nigger is nothing like nigga

Don’t sound shit alike like Game like Jigga

One came before the other like aim and pull the trigga'

One is slang for my brotha, one is hang and take a picture

The rope aint tight enough, he still alive go fix it

Pour some gasoline on him, call his daughters black bitches

Make him pick cotton, while they momma clean up the kitchen

The same cotton in white tees that’s the cotton they was pickin"

But 'bitch' can be fun to throw around too. :D

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CNN reported there was a phone call from her office in regards to the ex-brother-in-law and a few emails were found. They will get to the bottom of this. Palin, abuse her power? She seems like such a sweet woman, i just can't believe anything like that about her...lol (sweet as a wolf in sheep's clothes)

I heard on the news it was 25 phone calls. Apparently she has a lawyer on the case now.

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