U.S. Vice President 2008

[Electrophile]

Republicans care about human beings when they're in utero. Once you're born, you're own your own. No health care, no Head Start, no school lunches, no after-school programs, no tutoring intiatives, no career services help, no nothing. If you're male and 18+, they give a shit because then you're valuable to them. You're a tool they can use to carve this country up a little finer amongst themselves.

I'm not saying Democrats are the bastions of human rights, because for the longest time the party of racial oppression was the Democrats. I'm hoping this party makes further strides to distance themselves from that past and forge a new future that is far more all-inclusive. An African-American in the White House would be a good start.

[~tangerine~]

I challenge you to find anywhere that I have said that I do not value animal life. What I have said is that a animal is a animal. And, it comes no were near being human life. Now, do you kiss your doggies on their mouth's?

Well your snide little comment about "hunting Bambi" would suggest you don't have any reverence toward animals. Your attitude, period, is all the proof i need. People who are cruel to animals or hate them are missing a big HUMAN element, afaic...and i would NEVER be friends with someone i knew hated animals. So i see you as someone who is insignificant, if for no other reason, than because of your disgust of wildlife.

As for your "passion" towards humans, have you ever helped another human being that wasn't a close family member or close friend? I help strangers every day i go to work. I help humans and i love animals. I am proud of these facts. I am teaching my child to love people AND ANIMALS. I am proud she is full of compassion towards "life". That is an achievement. Your animal hater Palin teaches the opposite.

[allthekingshorses]

WWJD?

[Babs]

~Tangerine~ You need to get over your animal crush. You see, they are animals. Nothing more, nothing less. They are not as important as humans. I realize that you do not understand this. You are probably one of those that kisses their dog on it's mouth.

:hysterical: You're too much Stop it! :hysterical:

[~tangerine~]

~Tangerine~ Many times I find that those that "talk" the most about helping others do the least. Kind of like obama. But, in your case I am sure that you help animals a lot.

I'm sure you have never helped another human being. I'm certain you hate animals. I'm also certain you don't care about aborted babies... you are just a phoney.

You are incapable of answering questions, just like Palin. Gee, we find even more you have in common with your little boy crush. Sad, she doesn't feel the same way about you...btw...Palin wasn't picked for you, srplane. You are so predictable.

[wanna be drummer]

Can we all quit acting like douchebags and grow up already? Jesus, this thread is about the U.S. Vice Presidenctial candidates, not about personal feuds. Take it to PMs

[wanna be drummer]

What the hell are you talking about? You keep bringing up PMs. I PM very very rarely, so what's your point?

[~tangerine~]

And yet another "knee jerk liberal" response. Now you are judging me. ~Tangerine~ you are too much.

What's to judge? You have shown yourself in every silly/nasty post you make. You NEVER contribute anything, just all stupid talk. Funny, you can't defend anything i said about you. Proof you are just a phony...

[wanna be drummer]

Just wondering how your friend Hermit, Trouble free transmission, Earth Mi Mi, One Drop is doing??

So because I'm friends with hermit, I PM a lot? I repeat, I RARELY PM. I PM maybe one or two people a month and for maybe 2 messages each.

Also, I'm curious. You've been here since July 26th. How do you know Hermit? He was banned long before that. Hell, I think even Trouble Free Transmission was banned before that. So I'm curious, how do you know all these people? Could it be that you've been banned maybe times before and are sadly coming back from the dead?

Yeah, I think so

[wanna be drummer]

20 against one? You're bringing it on yourself. I'm trying to be polite and I'm serious not just talking to you. Everybody who wants to bitch please use PMs, this is just gonna get the thread deleted or something.

[Babs]

So because I'm friends with hermit, I PM a lot? I repeat, I RARELY PM. I PM maybe one or two people a month and for maybe 2 messages each.

Also, I'm curious. You've been here since July 26th. How do you know Hermit? He was banned long before that. Hell, I think even Trouble Free Transmission was banned before that. So I'm curious, how do you know all these people? Could it be that you've been banned maybe times before and are sadly coming back from the dead?

Yeah, I think so

My money is he is scs. Nutty enough.

[~tangerine~]

Let's see, it's about 20 against one around here. ~Tangerine~ if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. And, I am not going to get on a soap box to tell if I have ever saved the wold or not.

If you mean 20 Libs against 1 crush on Palin, okay, well at least the majority are thinkers. The rest of what you said makes no sense. What heat/what kitchen??? Anyway, you never answer anything, so afaic, you are not worth wasting time tallking to. But don't get your hopes up, i don't use the "ignore" function. I will still laugh at your silly posts.

[wanna be drummer]

Wanna be, you have a short memory in regards to you PM's.

SR Jester ring a bell??

TFT called you Sr Jester...so what. What does that have to do with a PM (A PRIVATE MESSAGE)?

[Electrophile]

My money is he is scs. Nutty enough.

Rick outed him as Planet 51.

[Babs]

Rick outed him as Planet 51.

It does get confusing.joel er pickenpieces et al.

[wanna be drummer]

Dude.................your message is still in my inbox. Do you want me to post it here?

I was away from my computer.

As far as your inbox goes, go for it. I know who Hermit is. I don't think anybody would NOT know that. I mean, I only have his fucking avatar in my sig

If that's your form of blackmailing, that's a joke. You couldn't intimidate my 12 year old brother.

I'm going to bed. Show the world my PM. I couldn't care less.

[Matthew!]

and hey buddy, check the link i posted the other day about the

ALASKAN WOMEN WHO HAD AN ANTI-PALIN RALLY. Women who have seen her leadership first hand...

That was on the local news! Some radio show host called them socialist maggots. For expressing their opinions, which happen to differ from his.

See what kind of people support McCain? The ones who want to restrict your rights. Wtf?

It's not blackmail. I just thought that it was funny how you PM'ed me asking me to not bring up your friend Hermit's cover names. That's all.

It's actually really annoying, you posting the same thing all the time.

Same with that other guy that's always like "PALIN WINS ".

[Electrophile]

That was on the local news! Some radio show host called them socialist maggots. For expressing their opinions, which happen to differ from his.

See what kind of people support McCain? The ones who want to restrict your rights. Wtf?

Funny thing about socialism:

Universal Health Care? Hell no, that's socialism and socialism is bad...BAD!!!

Unless it's stupid socialism that costs a lot of money, like nationalizing failed investment banks and bailing out investment insurers. Then it's OTAY!!

[Electrophile]

"Oil and coal? Of course, it's a fungible commodity and they don't flag, you know, the molecules, where it's going and where it's not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it's Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It's got to flow into our domestic markets first. - Sarah Palin, 9/17/08"

[marolyn]

"Oil and coal? Of course, it's a fungible commodity and they don't flag, you know, the molecules, where it's going and where it's not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it's Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It's got to flow into our domestic markets first. - Sarah Palin, 9/17/08"

..... let me guess......speaking in tongues????.....

oh boy....this is gonna be good!!!!

[allthekingshorses]

Wanna be...................I'm still waiting for a answer.

Yeah, we all know what that feels like...

[bigstickbonzo]

You Libs around here are something else. Can't handle 20+ against one. Wait a minute, that's the number of years that obama spent with the hate monger Wright. My bad. I never thought that hanging around leftist's could be sooooooooooooooo fun. You all are way to easy. LOL

As opposed to what? You? A so-called defender of the right? You don't even know what a republican is so stop whining about nothing and off with your tantrum. I haven't read a single post from you that is remotely appealing or even politically accurate. You come off as nothing more than a one off sagger with no real vice here other than getting a hard on from liberals. That's pathetic.

[Medhb]

~Tangerine~ You need to get over your animal crush. You see, they are animals. Nothing more, nothing less. They are not as important as humans. I realize that you do not understand this. You are probably one of those that kisses their dog on it's mouth.

What makes man superior to animals? His ability to destroy the earth?

Edited to say I'd kiss a dog on the ass before I'd kiss your cheek.

[Medhb]

It's not blackmail. I just thought that it was funny how you PM'ed me asking me to not bring up your friend Hermit's cover names. That's all.

Me thinks you appear a tad jealous of all the friends and supporters Hermit had. Clearly, no one would feel the same way if you were banned

Now, back to Vice President candidates. Is the rumor true that Sarah Palin was paying $150 dollars per wolf paw? I know she supports aerial slaugher of these defensless, magnificent creatures.

srplane, some food for thought from some of societies greatest, evolved thinkers. I know some of these might be a bit past your level of comprehension however, it is my hope that there are a few that allow you to ponder the world from a more evolved perspective.

• "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." How great are we if we don't hold those accountable who mistreat our animals? ~ Mahatma Ghandi
  
• “Life is as dear to the mute creature as it is to a man. Just as one wants happiness and fears pain, just as one wants to live and not to die, so do other creatures.” ~His Holiness The Dalai Lama
  
• “If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men.” ~ Francis of Assisi
  
• “They too, are created by the same loving hand of God which Created us...It is our duty to Protect Them and to promote their well-being.” ~ Mother Teresa
  
• “And who gives food to every creature. His love endures forever.” ~ Psalm 136:25
  
• “I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth.” ~ Mahatma Gandhi
  
• “Life is life—whether in a cat, or dog or man. There is no difference there between a cat or a man. The idea of difference is a human conception for man's own advantage.” ~ Sri Aurobindo
  
• “A good deed done to an animal is as meritorious as a good deed done to a human being, while an act of cruelty to an animal is a bad as an act of cruelty to a human being.” ~ Prophet Mohammed
  
• “There is not an animal on the earth, nor a flying creature on two wings, but they are people like unto you.” ~ Islam. Qur’an
  
• “One who harms animals, directly or indirectly, has not understood deeds of sin…those whose minds are at peace and who are free from passions do not desire to live at the expense of others.” ~ Jainism
  
• “Non-injury to living beings is the highest religion.” ~ Jainism
  
• “I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being.”
  
• ~ Abraham Lincoln
  
• “I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.” ~ Abraham Lincoln
  
• “A righteous man has regard for the life of his beast.” ~ Proverbs 12:10
  
• “Every animal knows more than you do.”—Native American Proverb
  
• “What is a man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, men would die form great loneliness of spirit, for whatever happens to the beasts also happens to man.” ~ Chief Seattle
  
• “The Earth does not belong to man; Man belongs to the Earth. This we know. All things are connected like the blood which unites one family. Whatever befalls the Earth befalls the sons of the Earth. Man did not weave the web of life, he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself.” ~ Chief Seattle
  
• “Is not the sky a father and the earth a mother, and are not all living things with feet or wings or roots their children?; Hear me, four quarters of the world…a relative I am! Give me the strength to walk the soft Earth, a relative to all that is,…all over the Earth, the faces of living things are all alike.” ~ John G. Neihardt in Black Elk Speaks
  
• “We must protect the forests for our children, grandchildren and children yet to be born. We must protect the forests for those who can't speak for themselves such as the birds, animals, fish and trees.” ~ Qwatsinas
  
• “The obligations of law and equity reach only to mankind; but kindness and beneficence should be extended to the creatures of every species, and these will flow from the breast of a true man, as streams that issue from the living fountain.” ~ Plutarch
  
• “As long as man continues to be the ruthless destroyer of lower livings beings, he will never know health or peace. For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love.” ~ Pythagoras
  
• “Animals share with us the privilege of having a soul.” ~ Pythagoras
  
• “The soul is the same in all living creatures, although the body of each is different.” ~ Hippocrates
  
• “Respect the old and cherish the young. Even insects, grass and trees you must not hurt”. ~ T’ai-shang kan-ying p’ien, a Confucian-Taoist treatise. Attributed to Ko Hung
  
• Truly man is the king of beasts, for his brutality exceeds theirs. We live by the death of others: we are burial places! I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look on the murder of animals as they now look on the murder of men.” ~ Leonardo da Vinci
  
• “Our task must be to free ourselves— by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty.” ~ Albert Einstein
  
• “When I lost my way, I was accustomed to throw the reins on his neck, and he always discovered places where I, with all my observation and boasted superior knowledge, could not.” ~ Napoleon Bonaparte about his horse Marengo
  
• “The squirrel that you kill in jest, dies in earnest.” ~ Henry David Thoreau
  
• “Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages.” ~ Thomas A. Edison
  
• “If man is not to stifle human feelings, he must practice kindness to animals, for He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals.” ~ Immanuel Kant
  
• “It is just like man's vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.” ~ Mark Twain
  
• “When a man wants to murder a tiger he calls it sport; when the tiger wants to murder him he calls it ferocity.” ~ George Bernard Shaw
  
• “Hear our humble prayer, o God, for our friends the animals who are suffering; for any that are hunted or lost or deserted or frightened or hungry….We entreat for them all Thy mercy and pity, and for those who deal with them we ask a heart of compassion and gentle hands and kindly words. Make us, ourselves, to be true friends to animals and so to share the blessings of the merciful.” ~ Albert Schweitzer
  
• “Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened.” ~ Anatole France
  
• “Only animals were not expelled from Paradise.” ~ Milan Kundera
  
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• “The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? But rather, Can they suffer?” ~Jeremy Bentham
  
• “Animals are reliable, many full of love, true in their affections, predictable in their actions, grateful and loyal. Difficult standards for people to live up to.” ~ Alfred A. Montapert
  
• “One cannot look deeply into the eyes of an animal and not see the same depth, complexity and feeling we humans lay exclusive claim to.” ~ Nan Sea Love
  
• “There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.” ~ Bern Williams
  

[Electrophile]

"Oil and coal? Of course, it's a fungible commodity and they don't flag, you know, the molecules, where it's going and where it's not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it's Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It's got to flow into our domestic markets first. - Sarah Palin, 9/17/08"

Found the question that went with this answer. She was basically asked how she would keep oil produced in the United States, in the United States. Again, this occurred at the pre-screened Town Hall, full of her supporters asking questions that were known in advance. And that was the answer. To a pre-screened question. What the HELL is she going to do during her debate with Biden if she's not wired up more than Bush was?