Reunion tour possabilities

[all that glitters is gold]

I was wondering if anyone knows more about what happened between Robert Plant and Jimmy Page, I was reading the strange sensations web site and It said that Jimmy Page is wanting to do a reunion tour but Robert is refusing the idea because he just wants to keep touring with Allison.

I don't understand how Robert could be against the idea, Jimmy is much older now and "Knock on wood" may not have much time left to do another tour. I just couldn't believe it when I read that, they have been friends and partners for so long and Rob's just going to ditch Jimmy. I'm thinking there might be something else behind Robert's decision other than what the web site said. Does anyone know if something else happened between them?

I was upset when I read that to hear that jimmy does want to do a reunion tour and Robert doesn't. Would be so amazing, and give us younger people a chance to see them who didn't get to see them back then.

[eternal light]

All I want is to just be free and live my life the way I wanna be; all I want is to just have fun and live my life like I've just begun but You're Pushing Too Hard is the way I heard the deal went down, leaving some to wonder if he may have been influenced by an old Skye Saxon video. Robert went on further to say, "the way that you push push push push push push me darling I can't take too much of that. I've been Dazed and Confused so long it's not true."

Edited July 31, 2008 by eternal light

[SteveAJones]

I just couldn't believe it when I read that, they have been friends and partners for so long and Rob's just going to ditch Jimmy.

...he ditched Jimmy at the end of '98, not now

[bouncing~ship]

It's been too quiet for to long...

[all that glitters is gold]

I must have missed something than, I know they have had a falling out back in the early nineties that I still don't know much about where Robert Plant said something quite nasty about Jimmy in one of his songs on Manic Nirvana and also in a press conference for the album said some nasty remarks about Jimmy,

but than they patched it up for Robs next album. I never knew anything else happened between them after that. I wonder if there is something Jimmy done that Rob won't forgive him for and holds against him.

[bouncing~ship]

I must have missed something than, I know they have had a falling out back in the early nineties that I still don't know much about where Robert Plant said something quite nasty about Jimmy in one of his songs on Manic Nirvana and also in a press conference for the album said some nasty remarks about Jimmy,

but than they patched it up for Robs next album. I never knew anything else happened between them after that. I wonder if there is something Jimmy done that Rob won't forgive him for and holds against him.

That can be a possabilty, but i doubt it. O2 showed showed something between them all. These guys are grown men who are millionaires. They should be able to analyze a situation, get over turmoil very quickly and move forward.

Ehh...Steve. I've been gone for too long. Any cosmic signs you can send over?

[SteveAJones]

I must have missed something than, I know they have had a falling out back in the early nineties that I still don't know much about where Robert Plant said something quite nasty about Jimmy in one of his songs on Manic Nirvana and also in a press conference for the album said some nasty remarks about Jimmy, but than they patched it up for Robs next album. I never knew anything else happened between them after that. I wonder if there is something Jimmy done that Rob won't forgive him for and holds against him.

Not sure what you mean there. They performed together at Knebworth in June 1990,

which was smack in the middle of the tour to support Manic Nirvana; Jimmy wasn't on

the next album (Fate Of Nations). Robert had agreed to reform Led Zeppelin in Jan '91,

then promptly changed his mind before the end of the meeting, driving Jimmy into

David Coverdale's arms (so to speak) three months later. Perhaps that is the fall out

to which you refer?

Anyway, for all intents and purposes Robert left the Page/Plant partnership in Dec '98, which led to cancellation of their Japanese/Far East tour. I'm not blaming him; two

sides to every story.

[SteveAJones]

Ehh...Steve. I've been gone for too long. Any cosmic signs you can send over?

The newest development is Robert expressing keen interest in continuing to work with

Alison beyond their current tour. Whatever his head space was in December '07, that

thought wasn't there then.

The documentary featuring Jimmy is going to be screened in Toronto this September.

I sincerely hope he'll attend as it may invigorate him to see a positive reaction to his

new music.

[all that glitters is gold]

Oh ya, your right Fate of Nations was after that wasn't, sorry my bad.

I'm not sure exactly why they had the falling out in the 90's but I am positive they did. I have a recording from some Music program on TV of a press conference of Robert Plant for his Manic Nirvana Album and he said some bad things about Jimmy I don't remember at the moment exactly what was said, I'd have to watch it again but it wasn't nice.

That Coverdale/Page thing may have been why, I really don't know.

Thank you for that info about the '98 tour, I never knew about that.

two sides to every story, quite right

[Cactus]

I don't think Robert has flat out said no to anything. Certainly the current Krauss tour was booked way before the O2 show, and Robert is enjoying it. Good for him. He should continue to do that until either he wants to move on, or she does.

Is Led Zeppelin in the future post-Raising Sand? Possibly. He could say yes, or he could say no. Certainly the 'Led Zeppelin Reunion' stars have aligned now better than they ever have before. But that is no guarantee of anything.

Time will tell.

[Cactus]

I'm not sure exactly why they had the falling out in the 90's...

Plant recently said that the ending of their collaboration in the late 90s was due to Jimmy's substance abuse problems. Unfortunately, Plant may have felt frustrated or betrayed by that, and the current situation has its roots back there. He was forced to move on as a solo artist, and it is unfair of all the Robert haters to now come back and say that he is responsible for ruining a potential full-scale reunion.

[all that glitters is gold]

I do not believe Robert is at fault for anything, I assume he has his reasons and also that his current tour was in effect before Jimmy made the decision to do a tour. It was just the way things were worded about how Robert "ditched" Jimmy that made me wonder if there was something else behind it. I also do not agree that they owe us anything, they have given us so much and I am amazed that they have continued as long as they have already for our benefit. how ever it would be nice to hear more if they are up for it and give younger fans a chance to see them.

I do remember from that 90's press conference, Robert said something about Jimmy wanting to play with some tribe from south Africa "were all the dope comes from" he said and didn't seem very impressed when he said it. So what you said about the substance abuse makes a more sense to me now.

Edited July 31, 2008 by all that glitters is gold

[eternal light]

I do remember from that 90's press conference, Robert said something about Jimmy wanting to play with some tribe from south Africa "were all the dope comes from" he said and didn't seem very impressed when he said it.

That sounds like something that Tommy Chong would say.

Edited July 31, 2008 by eternal light

[all that glitters is gold]

lol nope, it was Rob. I remember that quote exactly he said Jimmy wanted to play with the chujuka tribe I don't know how to spell it but something like that, than said "were all the dope comes from".. and than continues on talking about the album. I never understood what that was all about, why he said that or what he meant.

[Cactus]

I do remember from that 90's press conference, Robert said something about Jimmy wanting to play with some tribe from south Africa "were all the dope comes from" he said and didn't seem very impressed when he said it. So what you said about the substance abuse makes a more sense to me now.

They did the No Quarter thing in '95, and had problems with securing the local musicians. There was a group of musicians who had been booked, but when Page/Plant arrived, they failed to show up. I believe that led to them doing the street performance in Morocco instead.

I think Jimmy's problem was more alcohol related, but he could have been using other stuff too. Whatever he was doing, the result was him being creatively unavailable to collaborate. It's a damn shame because who knows what we have missed out on.

On the other hand, now that Jimmy is clean and sober, he is likely much happier, and his recent activity almost certainly couldn't have happened.

I never had the chance to see Zep back in the day (I wasn't even born yet). I would love the opportunity to see them now. But if it doesn't happen, as you said, we have been given more than enough.

Going off topic, it's kind of like when Stanley Kubrick died. In his 45 year career, he only made 13 feature films (only 12 available to us now). It was sad for all his fans, because we knew there would never be another Kubrick film, or any films like them. But instead we have to go back to the old ones and enjoy them even more.

[eternal light]

lol nope, it was Rob. I remember that quote exactly he said Jimmy wanted to play with the chujuka tribe I don't know how to spell it but something like that, than said "were all the dope comes from".. and than continues on talking about the album. I never understood what that was all about, why he said that or what he meant.

He may have been talking about the Master Musicians of Joujouka. Stones fans have heard of them before.

Edited July 31, 2008 by eternal light

[all that glitters is gold]

Ya that could have been it, I have no clue how to spell what he said or which tribe so i'm sure you are probably right.

[eternal light]

Ya that could have been it, I have no clue how to spell what he said or which tribe so i'm sure you are probably right.

The Master Musicians of Joujouka are on myspace at myspace.com/mastermusiciansofjoujouka.

[Knebby]

"You are my friend, you are my friend - you touch my soul!"

[reezon]

"You are my friend, you are my friend - you touch my soul!"

That really sums up their relationship to the core.

A great quote from Robert

[SteveAJones]

Plant recently said that the ending of their collaboration in the late 90s was due to Jimmy's substance abuse problems.

...yeah, he alluded to it, but Jimmy wasn't the one who said "there are only so many springtimes" and then took off with a girlfriend. Seemed to me Jimmy was playing his

ass off every night, then he tried for eight months to get Robert back into the studio, to no avail.

[eternal light]

...yeah, he alluded to it, but Jimmy wasn't the one who said "there are only so many springtimes" and then took off with a girlfriend.

So after that he got up in the morning and hit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1q7vnyweq0, reminding everyone that he ain't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMyKgW3ZLjw.

Edited August 1, 2008 by eternal light

[beatbo]

...yeah, he alluded to it, but Jimmy wasn't the one who said "there are only so many springtimes" and then took off with a girlfriend. Seemed to me Jimmy was playing his

ass off every night, then he tried for eight months to get Robert back into the studio, to no avail.

i'm with ya on this, steve. after seeing alot of shows on that tour, it was my impression that page was stealing the show everynight-without 30 minute solos. once jimmy locked his leg next to the drum riser and got serious, that was everybody's ass. the rockpalast show in germany was the last great show from plant, imo...

[widget]

Mike "Puffy" Bordin was allegedly mentioned at this meeting.

Not sure what you mean there. They performed together at Knebworth in June 1990,

which was smack in the middle of the tour to support Manic Nirvana; Jimmy wasn't on

the next album (Fate Of Nations). Robert had agreed to reform Led Zeppelin in Jan '91,

then promptly changed his mind before the end of the meeting, driving Jimmy into

David Coverdale's arms (so to speak) three months later. Perhaps that is the fall out

to which you refer?

[Knebby]

...yeah, he alluded to it, but Jimmy wasn't the one who said "there are only so many springtimes" and then took off with a girlfriend. Seemed to me Jimmy was playing his

ass off every night, then he tried for eight months to get Robert back into the studio, to no avail.

This is nothing to do with any previous ill-feeling between us, but I REALLY think Robert's perspective on this is a little clearer than yours this time.