XerSizNRite Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Putin does not like a neutral presence near Georgia in the Black Sea. “PUTIN VOWS 'THERE WILL BE AN ANSWER' TO NATO SHIPS IN BLACK SEA” Quote from within source: “Russian officials say the United States could have delivered weapons to Georgia under the guise of humanitarian aid.” Personally, I hope we have. Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414961,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetangel578 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Putin does not like a neutral presence near Georgia in the Black Sea. “PUTIN VOWS 'THERE WILL BE AN ANSWER' TO NATO SHIPS IN BLACK SEA” Quote from within source: “Russian officials say the United States could have delivered weapons to Georgia under the guise of humanitarian aid.” Personally, I hope we have. Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414961,00.html why? to destroy Russia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 why? to destroy Russia? No, the only justifiable reason to have weapons is to deter someone from attacking you. Bear Charges Hunters in the Wilderness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I have got a horsey Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 No, the only justifiable reason to have weapons is to deter someone from attacking you. Well if Russia was trying to entice Mexico and Canada to join a Military alliance with Russia, there's absolutely no way the USA would allow it, at all. But yet the USA is doing the same thing to Russia, but the USA simply expects Russia to just roll over and accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Well if Russia was trying to entice Mexico and Canada to join a Military alliance with Russia, there's absolutely no way the USA would allow it, at all. But yet the USA is doing the same thing to Russia, but the USA simply expects Russia to just roll over and accept it. The United States respects its borders with Canada and Mexico. The United States usually does not invade Canada and Mexico with tanks and artillery. Also, the United States Navy normally maintains a presence throughout the world, including the region near Russia. Additionally, during World War I, the United States Army sent its own men to Siberia in Russia as part of their usual four-year military service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I have got a horsey Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 The United States respects its borders with Canada and Mexico. The United States usually does not invade Canada and Mexico with tanks and artillery. Also, the United States Navy normally maintains a presence throughout the world, including the region near Russia. Additionally, during World War I, the United States Army sent its own men to Siberia in Russia as part of their usual four-year military service. It's nice to see that you've reduced a complex regional political issue to the simple, easy to understand "big bad Russia" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 It's nice to see that you've reduced a complex regional political issue to the simple, easy to understand "big bad Russia" I merely pointed out a few realities. Perhaps you misinterpreted my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Russia: Ukraine is blocking Europe's gas Gazprom says pumping resumes after pricing dispute prompted 6-day cutoff updated 4:40 a.m. PT, Tues., Jan. 13, 2009 MOSCOW - Russia's state gas monopoly accused Ukraine of blocking transit of Russian gas to Europe hours after supplies were restarted, extending the bitter energy crisis that left large parts of Europe cold and dark. Gazprom began pumping gas into Ukraine shortly after 10 a.m. Moscow time (0700 GMT), but four hours later Gazprom's Deputy Chairman Alexander Medvedev said Ukraine's pipeline system had failed to carry it on to Europe. "Ukraine didn't open any export pipelines," Medvedev said in a call-in with reporters. "They just shut down the entry of the pipeline in the direction of the Balkans. We don't have the physical opportunity to pump the gas to European customers." Ukraine's state gas company Naftogaz declined comment. Russia has accused Ukraine of stealing gas intended for Europe and only restarted supplies after a EU-led monitoring mission was deployed to gas metering and compressor stations across Ukrainian territory. The observer mission includes EU, Russian and Ukrainian officials and representatives of European energy companies. EU spokesman Ferran Tarradellas Espuny said "very limited" amounts of gas started flowing to Ukraine and only through one entry point from Russia to Ukraine. 'Very serious' He said EU monitors still do not have full and free access to dispatching centers in Kiev or Moscow to check the gas flow. "The information that we have from our monitors in Russia is that little or no gas is currently flowing and we are not at this stage jumping to conclusions as to why this is the case," said another EU spokeswoman, Pia Ahrenkilde Hansen. "This situation is obviously very serious and needs to improve rapidly." Medvedev accused Ukraine of barring observers from a central control room for its pipeline network and underground gas storage in violation of an EU-brokered monitoring deal. Ukraine has fiercely denied the siphoning accusation, but Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko warned on Monday that Ukraine will have to use some gas from Russia as so-called "technical gas" to power compressors that push Europe-bound gas through its 23,000 miles of pipelines. Gazprom has insisted it is Ukraine's duty to provide the gas. Gazprom spokesman Sergei Kupriyanov warned Tuesday that "the amount of Russian gas pumped into Ukraine's pipeline network must strictly correspond to the amount of gas flowing out of Ukraine." Valentyn Zemlyansky, the spokesman for Ukraine's Naftogaz, said Ukraine will continue to use some of the Europe-bound gas as fuel for its pumping stations and denounced Gazprom's demands as an "attempt to put pressure on Ukraine." "Where else will we take those volumes (of gas) from?" Zemlyansky said. 11 deaths Russia's President Dmitry Medvedev already has ordered Gazprom to reduce supplies if it again sees Ukraine siphoning gas, and suspend it completely if it believes Ukraine continuously steals gas. Russia supplies about one-quarter of the EU's natural gas, 80 percent of it shipped through Ukraine, and the disruption came as the continent was gripped by freezing temperatures in which at least 11 people have frozen to death. The gas cutoff has affected more than 15 countries, with Bosnia, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Serbia and Slovakia among the worst hit. Sales of electric heaters have soared and thousands of businesses in eastern Europe have been forced to cut production or even shut down. Russia stopped gas supplies to Ukraine on Jan. 1 amid a contract dispute, but continued sending gas to Europe across the Ukrainian territory until Jan. 7 when it fully halted shipments over alleged Ukrainian theft. Russia used the gas dispute to reaffirm its push for prospective gas pipelines under the Baltic and the Black Sea which would bypass Ukraine. But EU officials said the crisis should encourage a search for independent energy sources and supply routes, such as the U.S.-backed Nabucco pipeline that would carry Caspian energy resources circumventing Russia. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28632222/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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