badgeholder Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I mean, surely they exist. Or existed. They wouldn't record other stops but not L.A. All we have is pieces of '73. But nothing from '75? Nothing from '77? Who's holding out here, Jimmy? or the bootleggers? Were they lost in a fire or something? These are 'holy grails', I don't understand them still being M.I.A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docron Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Why L.A. only? I dunno why there aren't any soundboard recordings from L.A. in these years, but I would venture to guess that Jimmy has nothing to do with it, as he had little to do with any of them. In all reality, as infamous as Led Zeppelin was in L.A., I'd bet that they're being hoarded by some bootlegger. All I can do is point out the alternatives: For California '75, theres really good audience recordings (8/10) of the show at Long Beach on 3/11 and a somewhat newer soundboard (9/10) of the show in San Diego on 3/14. For California '77, theres good audience (8/10) recordings of the show in L.A., hell, theres even a Winston Remaster. I get the feeling you dont like audience recordings? Its an acquired taste really, but I've learned to love them for the atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgeholder Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 No, not at all, I love the audience recordings that do exist of these shows. Just something I'm wondering aloud about. Thought maybe there was a story behind their absence that one of you could reveal. A 'hoarder' would explain it, but we don't know this for certain, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docron Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Nope... at least I don't know for certain... I've been trading bootlegs for a while now and have never come across any information about these shows in any trading circles. I will ask around though. Like I said, Led Zeppelin's performances at the L.A. Forum were famous for always being among the best performances. If any shows were to be hoarded by someone (most likely in hopes of gaining some profit ), those would be it. I definitely don't think it has anything to do with Jimmy or the band. Sorry I can't be of more help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docron Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Nope... at least I don't know for certain... I've been trading bootlegs for a while now and have never come across any information about these shows in any trading circles. I will ask around though. Like I said, Led Zeppelin's performances at the L.A. Forum were famous for always being among the best performances. If any shows were to be hoarded by someone (most likely in hopes of gaining some profit ), those would be it. I definitely don't think it has anything to do with Jimmy or the band. Sorry I can't be of more help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EzyEric Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 What about the rumor (or fact??) behind the naming of Listen to this Eddie. Eddie Kramer would not record shows in 77 because he thought Jimmy's playing was bad. I want a soundboard from Seattle 75 and the 77 LA shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenman Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Its not really very supprizing as we have very few SB's from 69-72. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Youtube has several of the Los Angeles shows. I don't know why the LA shows were so notable compared to the others, although I am very glad that I went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZepDomi Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I want a soundboard from Seattle 75 and the 77 LA shows In my opinion, the auidence recordings from the 77 LA shows blow away any soundboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EzyEric Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 In my opinion, the auidence recordings from the 77 LA shows blow away any soundboard. Well we dont know what a soundboard "would" sound like. It certainly does not blow you away just because its an audience recording, its an amazing show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZepDomi Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Well we dont know what a soundboard "would" sound like. It certainly does not blow you away just because its an audience recording, its an amazing show. No kidding, of course it's a great show. What I'm saying is that I like a great audience recording over a soundboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef free Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 What about the rumor (or fact??) behind the naming of Listen to this Eddie. Eddie Kramer would not record shows in 77 because he thought Jimmy's playing was bad. I want a soundboard from Seattle 75 and the 77 LA shows Well I don't know (but I been told) but I heard that the title came from an interview with EVH where in he said "Jimmy Page plays so sloppy live" the DJ replied "Listen to this Eddie" and played 1977-06-21. Anyone know the real story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgio Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 There should be more soundboards. Have only heard "Destroyer" aka Cleveland - which is one of the best LZ soundboards out there. I personally found the 1980s soundboards a little dry at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Obscure Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Well! most of Mike The Mic Millard's audience recordings have far better mood and sounds than most soundboards out there. Like the one I'm listening to at this very moment: L.A., June 25th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Obscure Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 What about the rumor (or fact??) behind the naming of Listen to this Eddie. Eddie Kramer would not record shows in 77 because he thought Jimmy's playing was bad. I want a soundboard from Seattle 75 and the 77 LA shows That has to do with Millard's fantastic sound (for audience recordings). "Hey, Listen to This Eddie... It's an audience and it sounds far better than a sdb!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Well I don't know (but I been told) but I heard that the title came from an interview with EVH where in he said "Jimmy Page plays so sloppy live" the DJ replied "Listen to this Eddie" and played 1977-06-21. Anyone know the real story? I read that "Eddie" was a personal friend of Mike Millards and he wrote "listen to this eddie" on the tape cause Millard was impressed with his recording and wanted his friend Eddie to check it out. VH's first record didn't come out until '78 and this recording and title was done in '77, so it definitely had nothing to do with EV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenman Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I want a soundboard from Seattle 75 and the 77 LA shows Seattle 75 is one alot of people are hoping for since so many 75 SB's have been surfacing, definately the best post 73 show for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Considering the Millard sources for the Forum '77 shows damn near surpass about 99.9% of officially released 'live albums' (most of which are usually edited and/or overdubbed to hell and back), who needs soundboards of these shows? Except, perhaps, for matrixing purposes ala "Four Blocks In The Snow" from Feb 12 '75. I agree that a Seattle '75 SBD would be nice, though. It's a perfectly decent audience recording, mind you. Gimme a good audience tape over a sterile soundboard any day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram4 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 One thing I would hope see surface someday is the complete 2 track multitrack mixdown of the Los Angeles (and Long Beach) shows from 1972. The 3 songs we've had since the early 90's from Long Beach are from this source. Certainly better than any audience or soundboard tape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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