kirchzep27 Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 If big investors were pulling out of emerging markets and buying dollars and yen last friday, who knows now. certainly nobody knows for sure on cable news. Quote
ally Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 If big investors were pulling out of emerging markets and buying dollars and yen last friday, who knows now. certainly nobody knows for sure on cable news. Those guy's are not going to get anyone out of the R word !!!! It will be us everyday working stiffs. The difference with this one is , we're all in it, the world over. I guess that means we are all fucked Quote
kirchzep27 Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 Those guy's are not going to get anyone out of the R word !!!! It will be us everyday working stiffs. The difference with this one is , we're all in it, the world over. I guess that means we are all fucked That amazes me...the use of the recession word. A month ago it was in use, now the use of the word is less with the media to a degree. It all depends on what show you watch, cause apparently its gonna be 2 or 3yrs of recovery...?? atleast. Quote
eternal light Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) The market closed slightly down today below the 10,000 mark. The explanation for yesterday's rally was that bargain hunters tried to take advantage of values in a market that appeared undervalued to some investors. Dow Jones Industrial Average 8,990.96 -74.16 -0.82% http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_q...ol=%24US%3Aindu Edited October 29, 2008 by eternal light Quote
PennyLane Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 The Feds cut the interest rate by 1/2 point today but I still don't think this is the answer to solve this problem. Before it gets better, we haven't seen the worst of it. Quote
eternal light Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 The Feds cut the interest rate by 1/2 point today but I still don't think this is the answer to solve this problem. Before it gets better, we haven't seen the worst of it. Wow, that is a big cut in the interest rate. It should result in lower prices for goods and services throughout the economy and ease up the money supply. The government has also reminded the banks to stop hoarding the funds they received and encouraged them to make loans. Quote
eternal light Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) Today's trading closed on the upside. 9,180.69 +189.73 +2.11% http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_q...ol=%24US%3Aindu Edited October 31, 2008 by eternal light Quote
PennyLane Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 The day is not over yet, anything can happen. Maybe the Money Gods are on the side of Wall Street today. Quote
PennyLane Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 The market stayed up today at 9180. 69. Thanks Eternal Light for keeping us posted. Quote
eternal light Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 The market stayed up today at 9180. 69. Thanks Eternal Light for keeping us posted. You're welcome, PennyLane. It looks like the Dow closed up again on Friday at 9,325.01 +144.32 +1.57%. That is a good sign but it is still too soon to declare a recovery until it stabilizes above 10,000. Quote
cryingbluerain Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 How's the stock market doing? Down over 460... Looks like they don't like Obama... Quote
eternal light Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 (edited) Dow Jones Industrial Average 9,139.27 -486.01 -5.05% http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_q...ol=%24US%3Aindu Edited November 5, 2008 by eternal light Quote
THE FIRST LEDZEP Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 The new choice for Pres seems to be working wonders on Wall Street Quote
kirchzep27 Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 ^He is not a magician right...gonna be two yrs of damage control from what it looks like. Quote
eternal light Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 (edited) Dow Jones Industrial Average Today's Closing Numbers 8,695.79 -443.48 -4.85% http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_q...ol=%24US%3Aindu No recovery yet. And the folks at Morgan Stanley? They're planning to pay themselves $10.7 billion this year, much of it in bonuses almost exactly the amount they are receiving in the first phase of the bailout. "You can imagine the devilish grins on the faces of Morgan Stanley employees," writes Bloomberg columnist Jonathan Weil. "Not only did we, the taxpayers, save their company...we funded their 2008 bonus pool." It didn't have to be this way. Five days before Paulson struck his deal with the banks, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown negotiated a similar bailout only he extracted meaningful guarantees for taxpayers: voting rights at the banks, seats on their boards, 12 percent in annual dividend payments to the government, a suspension of dividend payments to shareholders, restrictions on executive bonuses, and a legal requirement that the banks lend money to homeowners and small businesses. In sharp contrast, this is what U.S. taxpayers received: no controlling interest, no voting rights, no seats on the bank boards and just five percent in dividend payouts to the government, while shareholders continue to collect billions in dividends every quarter. What's more, golden parachutes and bonuses already promised by the banks will still be paid out to executives all before taxpayers are paid back. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story.../the_new_trough Edited November 7, 2008 by eternal light Quote
BUCK'EYE' DOC Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 The new choice for Pres seems to be working wonders on Wall Street The worst two days of the stock market since the crash of October 1987. Thanks, Obama! Quote
eternal light Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 (edited) The Bush Administration is still in office. They failed to negotiate favorable terms for United States taxpayers. Edited November 7, 2008 by eternal light Quote
BUCK'EYE' DOC Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 The stock market historically looks unfavorably on Democrat presidents. But there are many other factors at work here and of course it is a lot more complicated than this one factor. But we currently have a Democrat controlled congress who are making our laws and the Bush administration does not control this congress. Quote
eternal light Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 (edited) If Republican President Teddy Roosevelt were in office instead of George Bush, he would have exercised more control over his cabinet, especially the Secretary of the Treasury. George Bush should have instructed his Secretary of the Treasury, Henry Paulson, to arrange more favorable terms for the United States taxpayers and their money. When Teddy was in charge, he told his cabinet what to do, not the other way around. http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/cabinet.html To Theodore Roosevelt, the executive officer by definition had to run the show. He deplored the "Buchanan-Taft" vision of the presidency, referring to two presidents who moved more cautiously. James Buchanan, TR wrote in his Autobiography in 1913, "took the . . . narrowly legalistic view that the President is the servant of Congress rather than of the people, and can do nothing . . . unless the Constitution explicitly commands the action" (198). This contrasted heavily with Roosevelt's own perspective of his duties: My view was that every executive officer . . . was a steward of the people bound actively and affirmatively to do all he could for the people, and not to content himself with the negative merit of keeping his talents undamaged in a napkin. . . . My belief was that it was not only his right but his duty to do anything that the needs of the nation demanded unless such action was forbidden by the Constitution or by the laws (Roosevelt 197). In comparison with himself, TR regarded Congress as "indecisive and irresolute as an institution" (Gould 11). Roosevelt was the first Progressive president, bent on improving the United States with all his might. He refused to let his vigorous courses of action be delayed by Congress' debate. http://www.let.rug.nl/~usa/E/teddy/teddyxx.htm Edited November 7, 2008 by eternal light Quote
wanna be drummer Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 If George Bush were teddy Roosevelt, we'd be in a hell of a lot better shape right now Quote
cryingbluerain Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 STORE CLOSINGS AND LAYOFFS - If you have gift cards, hurry up and use them!! Just passing this along - FYI Ann Taylor closing 117 stores nationwide A company spokeswoman said the company hasn't revealed which stores will be shuttered. It will let the stores that will close this fiscal year know over the next month. Eddie Bauer to close more stores. Eddie Bauer has already closed 27 shops in the first quarter and plans to close up to two more outlet stores by the end of the year. Cache closing stores. Women's retailer Cache announced that it is closing 20 to 23 stores this year. Lane Bryant, Fashion Bug, Catherines closing 150 stores nationwide The owner of retailers Lane Bryant , Fashion Bug , Catherines Plus Sizes will close about 150 underperforming stores this year. The company hasn't provided a list of specific store closures and can't say when it will offer that info, spokeswoman Brooke Perry said today. Talbots, J. Jill closing stores. About a month ago, Talbots announced that it will be shuttering all 78 of its kids and men's stores. Now the company says it will close another 22 underperforming stores. The 22 stores will be a mix of Talbots women's and J. Jill, another chain it owns. The closures will occur this fiscal year, according to a company press release. Gap Inc. closing 85 stores. In addition to its namesake chain, Gap also owns Old Navy and Banana Republic. The company said the closures - all planned for fiscal 2008 - will be weighted toward the Gap brand. Foot Locker to close 140 stores. In the company press release and during its conference call with analysts today, it did not specify where the future store closures - all planned in fiscal 2008 - will be. The company could not be immediately reached for comment. Wickes is going out of business. Wickes Furniture is going out of business and closing all of its stores, Wickes, a 37-year-old retailer that targets middle-income customers, filed for bankruptcy protection last month. Levitz / BOMBAY - closed already. The furniture retailer is going out of business. Levitz first announced it was going out of business and closing all 76 of its stores in December. The retailer dates back to 1910 when Richard Levitz opened his first furniture store in Lebanon, PA. In the 1960s, the warehouse/ showroom concept brought Levitz to the forefront of the furniture industry. The local Levitz closures will follow the shutdown of Bombay. Zales & Piercing Pagoda closing stores. The owner of Zales and Piercing Pagoda previously said it plans to close 82 stores by July 31. Today, it announced that it is closing another 23 underperforming stores. The company said it's not providing a list of specific store closures. Of the 105 locations planned for closure, 50 are kiosks and 55 are stores. Disney Store owner has the right to close 98 stores The Walt Disney Company announced it acquired about 220 Disney Stores from subsidiaries of The Children's Place Retail Stores. The exact number of stores acquired will depend on negotiations with landlords. Those subsidiaries of Children's Place filed for bankruptcy protection in late March. Walt Disney in the news release said it has also obtained the right to close about 98 Disney Stores in the U.S. The press release didn't list those stores. Home Depot store closings (E. Brunswick, Rt 18 just put up their closing sign) ATLANTA - Nearly 7+ months after its chief executive said there were no plans to cut the number of its core retail stores, The Home Depot Inc. announced Thursday that it is shuttering 15 of them amid a slumping U.S. economy and housing market. The move will affect 1,300 employees. It is the first time the world's largest home improvement store chain has ever closed a flagship store for performance reasons. Its shares rose almost 5 percent. The Atlanta-based company said the underperforming U.S. stores being closed represent less than 1 percent of its existing stores. They will be shuttered within the next two months. CompUSA (CLOSED) clarifies details on store closings. Any extended warranties purchased for products through CompUSA will be honored by a third-party provider, Assurant Solutions. Gift cards, rain checks, and rebates purchased prior to December 12 can be redeemed at any time during the final sale. For those who have a gadget currently in for service with CompUSA, the repair will be completed and the gadget will be returned to owners. Macy's - 9 stores Movie Gallery - 160 stores as part of reorganization plan to exit bankruptcy. The video rental company plans to close 400 of 3,500 Movie Gallery and Hollywood Video stores in addition to the 520 locations the video rental chain closed last fall. Pacific Sunwear - 153 Demo stores Pep Boys - 33 stores Sprint Nextel - 125 retail locations New Sprint Nextel CEO Dan Hesse appears to have inherited a company bleeding subscribers by the thousands, and will now officially be dropping the ax on 4,000 employees and 125 retail locations. Amid the loss of 639,000 postpaid customers in the fourth quarter, Sprint will be cutting a total of 6.7% of its work force (following the 5,000 layoffs last year) and 8% of company-owned brick-and-mortar stores, while remaining mute on other rumors that it will consolidate its headquarters in Kansas Sprint Nextel shares are down $2.89, or nearly 25%, at the time of this writing. J. C. Penney, Lowe's and Office Depot are scaling back Ethan Allen Interiors: The company announced plans to close 12 of 300+ Wilsons the Leather Experts - 158 stores Pacific Sunwear will close its 154 Demo stores after a review of strategic alternatives for the urban-apparel brand. Seventy-four underperforming Demo stores closed last May. Sharper Image: The company recently filed for bankruptcy protection and announced that 90 of its 184 stores are closing. The retailer will still operate 94 stores to pay off debts, but 90 of these stores have performed poorly and also may close. Bombay Company: (Freehold Mall store closed) The company unveiled plans to close all 384 U.S.-based Bombay Company stores. The company's online storefront has discontinued operations. KB Toys posted a list of 356 stores that it is closing around the United States as part of its bankruptcy reorganization. To see the list of store closings, go to the KB Toys Information web site, and click on Press Information Dillard's to Close More Stores. Dillard's Inc. said it will continue to focus on closing underperforming> stores, reducing expenses and improving its merchandise in 2008. At the company's annual shareholder meeting, CEO William Dillard II said the company will close another six underperforming stores this year. Quote
rafnagud9 Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 INTERESTING... Fed Defies Transparency Aim in Refusal to Disclose (Update2) http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...&refer=home By Mark Pittman, Bob Ivry and Alison Fitzgerald Nov. 10 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve is refusing to identify the recipients of almost $2 trillion of emergency loans from American taxpayers or the troubled assets the central bank is accepting as collateral. Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said in September they would comply with congressional demands for transparency in a $700 billion bailout of the banking system. Two months later, as the Fed lends far more than that in separate rescue programs that didn't require approval by Congress, Americans have no idea where their money is going or what securities the banks are pledging in return. ``The collateral is not being adequately disclosed, and that's a big problem,'' said Dan Fuss, vice chairman of Boston- based Loomis Sayles & Co., where he co-manages $17 billion in bonds. ``In a liquid market, this wouldn't matter, but we're not. The market is very nervous and very thin.'' Bloomberg News has requested details of the Fed lending under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act and filed a federal lawsuit Nov. 7 seeking to force disclosure. The Fed made the loans under terms of 11 programs, eight of them created in the past 15 months, in the midst of the biggest financial crisis since the Great Depression. ``It's your money; it's not the Fed's money,'' said billionaire Ted Forstmann, senior partner of Forstmann Little & Co. in New York. ``Of course there should be transparency.'' Treasury, Fed, Obama Federal Reserve spokeswoman Michelle Smith declined to comment on the loans or the Bloomberg lawsuit. Treasury spokeswoman Michele Davis didn't respond to a phone call and an e-mail seeking comment. President-elect Barack Obama's economic adviser, Jason Furman, also didn't respond to an e-mail and a phone call seeking comment from Obama. In a Sept. 22 campaign speech, Obama promised to ``make our government open and transparent so that anyone can ensure that our business is the people's business.'' The Fed's lending is significant because the central bank has stepped into a rescue role that was also the purpose of the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP, bailout plan -- without safeguards put into the TARP legislation by Congress. Total Fed lending topped $2 trillion for the first time last week and has risen by 140 percent, or $1.172 trillion, in the seven weeks since Fed governors relaxed the collateral standards on Sept. 14. The difference includes a $788 billion increase in loans to banks through the Fed and $474 billion in other lending, mostly through the central bank's purchase of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bonds. Sept. 14 Decision Before Sept. 14, the Fed accepted mostly top-rated government and asset-backed securities as collateral. After that date, the central bank widened standards to accept other kinds of securities, some with lower ratings. The Fed collects interest on all its loans. The plan to purchase distressed securities through TARP called for buying at the ``lowest price that the secretary (of the Treasury) determines to be consistent with the purposes of this Act,'' according to the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, the law that covers TARP. The legislation didn't require any specific method for the purchases beyond saying mechanisms such as auctions or reverse auctions should be used ``when appropriate.'' In a reverse auction, bidders offer to sell securities at successively lower prices, helping to ensure that the Fed would pay less. The measure also included a five-member oversight board that includes Paulson and Bernanke. At a Sept. 23 Senate Banking Committee hearing in Washington, Paulson called for transparency in the purchase of distressed assets under the TARP program. `We Need Transparency' ``We need oversight,'' Paulson told lawmakers. ``We need protection. We need transparency. I want it. We all want it.'' At a joint House-Senate hearing the next day, Bernanke also stressed the importance of openness in the program. ``Transparency is a big issue,'' he said. The Fed lent cash and government bonds to banks, which gave the Fed collateral in the form of equities and debt, including subprime and structured securities such as collateralized debt obligations, according to the Fed Web site. The borrowers have included the now-bankrupt Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., Citigroup Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co. Banks oppose any release of information because it might signal weakness and spur short-selling or a run by depositors, said Scott Talbott, senior vice president of government affairs for the Financial Services Roundtable, a Washington trade group. Frank Backs Fed ``You have to balance the need for transparency with protecting the public interest,'' Talbott said. ``Taxpayers have a right to know where their tax dollars are going, but one piece of information standing alone could undermine public confidence in the system.'' The nation's biggest banks, Citigroup, Bank of America Corp., JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo & Co., Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Morgan Stanley, declined to comment on whether they have borrowed money from the Fed. They received $120 billion in capital from the TARP, which was signed into law Oct. 3. In an interview Nov. 6, House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank said the Fed's disclosure is sufficient and that the risk the central bank is taking on is appropriate in the current economic climate. Frank said he has discussed the program with Timothy F. Geithner, president and chief executive officer of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and a possible candidate to succeed Paulson as Treasury secretary. ``I talk to Geithner and he was pretty sure that they're OK,'' said Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat. ``If the risk is that the Fed takes a little bit of a haircut, well that's regrettable.'' Such losses would be acceptable, he said, if the program helps revive the economy. `Unclog the Market' Frank said the Fed shouldn't reveal the assets it holds or how it values them because of ``delicacy with respect to pricing.'' He said such disclosure would ``give people clues to what your pricing is and what they might be able to sell us and what your estimates are.'' He wouldn't say why he thought that information would be problematic. Revealing how the Fed values collateral could help thaw frozen credit markets, said Ron D'Vari, chief executive officer of NewOak Capital LLC in New York and the former head of structured finance at BlackRock Inc. ``I'd love to hear the methodology, how the Fed priced the assets,'' D'Vari said. ``That would unclog the market very quickly.'' TARP's $700 billion so far is being used to buy preferred shares in banks to shore up their capital. The program was originally intended to hold banks' troubled assets while markets were frozen. AIG Lending The Bloomberg lawsuit argues that the collateral lists ``are central to understanding and assessing the government's response to the most cataclysmic financial crisis in America since the Great Depression.'' The Fed has lent at least $81 billion to American International Group Inc., the world's largest insurer, so that it can pay obligations to banks. AIG today said it received an expanded government rescue package valued at more than $150 billion. The central bank is also responsible for losses on a $26.8 billion portfolio guaranteed after Bear Stearns Cos. was bought by JPMorgan. ``As a taxpayer, it is absolutely important that we know how they're lending money and who they're lending it to,'' said Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Arlington, Virginia- based Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. Ratings Cuts Ultimately, the Fed will have to remove some securities held as collateral from some programs because the central bank's rules call for instruments rated below investment grade to be taken back by the borrower and marked down in value. Losses on those assets could then be written off, partly through the capital recently injected into those banks by the Treasury. Moody's Investors Service alone has cut its ratings on 926 mortgage-backed securities worth $42 billion to junk from investment grade since Sept. 14, making them ineligible for collateral on some Fed loans. The Fed's collateral ``absolutely should be made public,'' said Mark Cuban, an activist investor, the owner of the Dallas Mavericks professional basketball team and the creator of the Web site BailoutSleuth.com, which focuses on the secrecy shrouding the Fed's moves. The Bloomberg lawsuit is Bloomberg LP v. Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, 08-CV-9595, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York (Manhattan). To contact the reporters on this story: Mark Pittman in New York at mpittman@bloomberg.net; Bob Ivry in New York at bivry@bloomberg.net; Alison Fitzgerald in Washington at afitzgerald2@bloomberg.net. Quote
Bong-Man Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...357/1148/AUTO01 "Here's where we are: An American industrial archetype synonymous with the Arsenal of Democracy is facing its own September 11 in the final months of 2008, a reckoning that would be the automotive equivalent of the fall of the Soviet Union for its epoch-changing scope. It would be impossible to overstate the historic implications of this -- what it means for the national economy, the city of Detroit, the state of Michigan, the industrial Midwest, GM employees and retirees, suppliers, dealers, non-profits and the United Auto Workers." GM burns through almost 8 billion in 3 months.....so what does another 25 billion do for them ? Tough call....but I say let them fall. If we bail them out, they will be right back in 6 months for another handout. GM and Ford have given up even trying to make money on small cars because of their legacy costs. The gov't (us) are going to pay for those pensions one way or another. I would have liked to be a fly on the White House wall when Obama brought up rescuing the auto companies to George Bush. It's going to be a long cold Winter. Quote
eternal light Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 (edited) Another correction. Dow Jones Industrial Average 8,693.96 -176.58 -1.99% http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_q...ol=%24US%3Aindu Edited November 11, 2008 by eternal light Quote
rafnagud9 Posted November 13, 2008 Posted November 13, 2008 Paulson's Swindle Revealed By William Greider October 29, 2008 http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081110/greider2/print The swindle of American taxpayers is proceeding more or less in broad daylight, as the unwitting voters are preoccupied with the national election. Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson agreed to invest $125 billion in the nine largest banks, including $10 billion for Goldman Sachs, his old firm. But, if you look more closely at Paulson's transaction, the taxpayers were taken for a ride--a very expensive ride. They paid $125 billion for bank stock that a private investor could purchase for $62.5 billion. That means half of the public's money was a straight-out gift to Wall Street, for which taxpayers got nothing in return. These are dynamite facts that demand immediate action to halt the bailout deal and correct its giveaway terms. Stop payment on the Treasury checks before the bankers can cash them. Open an immediate Congressional investigation into how Paulson and his staff determined such a sweetheart deal for leading players in the financial sector and for their own former employer. Paulson's bailout staff is heavily populated with Goldman Sachs veterans and individuals from other Wall Street firms. Yet we do not know whether these financiers have fully divested their own Wall Street holdings. Were they perhaps enriching themselves as they engineered this generous distribution of public wealth to embattled private banks and their shareholders? Leo W. Gerard, president of the United Steelworkers, raised these explosive questions in a stinging letter sent to Paulson this week. The union did what any private investor would do. Its finance experts vetted the terms of the bailout investment and calculated the real value of what Treasury bought with the public's money. In the case of Goldman Sachs, the analysis could conveniently rely on a comparable sale twenty days earlier. Billionaire Warren Buffett invested $5 billion in Goldman Sachs and bought the same types of securities--preferred stock and warrants to purchase common stock in the future. Only Buffett's preferred shares pay a 10 percent dividend, while the public gets only 5 percent. Dollar for dollar, Buffett "received at least seven and perhaps up to 14 times more warrants than Treasury did and his warrants have more favorable terms," Gerard pointed out. "I am sure that someone at Treasury saw the terms of Buffett's investment," the union president wrote. "In fact, my suspicion is that you studied it pretty closely and knew exactly what you were doing. The 50-50 deal--50 percent invested and 50 percent as a gift--is quite consistent with the Republican version of spread-the-wealth-around philosophy." The Steelworkers' close analysis was done by Ron W. Bloom, director of the union's corporate research and a Wall Street veteran himself who worked at Larzard Freres, the investment house. Bloom applied standard valuation techniques to establish the market price Buffett paid per share compared to Treasury's price. "The analysis is based on the assumption that Warren Buffett is an intelligent third party investor who paid no more for his investment than he had to," Bloom's report explained. "It also assumes that Gold Sachs' job is to protect its existing shareholders so that it extracted from Mr. Buffett the most that it could.... Further, it is assumed that Henry Paulson is likewise an intelligent man and that if he paid any more than Mr. Buffett--if he paid $1 for something for which Mr. Buffett would have paid 50 cents--that the difference is a gift from the taxpayers of the United States to the shareholders of Goldman Sachs." The implications are staggering. Leo Gerard told Paulson: "If the result of our analysis is applied to the deals that you made at the other eight institutions--which on average most would view as being less well positioned than Goldman and therefore requiring an even greater rate of return--you paid a$125 billion for securities for which a disinterested party would have paid $62.5 billion. That means you gifted the other $62.5 billion to the shareholders of these nine institutions." If the same rule of thumb is applied to Paulson's grand $700 billion bailout fund, Gerard said this will constitute a gift of $350 billion from the American taxpayers "to reward the institutions that have driven our nation and it now appears the whole world into its most serious economic crisis in 75 years." Is anyone angry? Will anyone look into these very serious accusations? Congress is off campaigning. The financiers at Treasury probably assume any public outrage will be lost in the election returns. I hope they are mistaken. About William Greider National affairs correspondent William Greider has been a political journalist for more than thirty-five years. A former Rolling Stone and Washington Post editor, he is the author of the national bestsellers One World, Ready or Not, Secrets of the Temple, Who Will Tell The People, The Soul of Capitalism (Simon & Schuster) and--due out in February from Rodale--Come Home, America. Quote
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