pinky Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Just skip ahead to 2:08, or enjoy the great scene from I Am Legend first. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2ehbc3fL7I...feature=related I don't know about this drug as I just stumbled across this so if there is a better reason that this isn't being distributed being the worst of mankind then please explain. Also a great story about Bayer how it willing killed many people with AIDS. This is why I love Bob Marley so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyLane Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 (edited) Just skip ahead to 2:08, or enjoy the great scene from I Am Legend first. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2ehbc3fL7I...feature=related I don't know about this drug as I just stumbled across this so if there is a better reason that this isn't being distributed being the worst of mankind then please explain. Also a great story about Bayer how it willing killed many people with AIDS. This is why I love Bob Marley so much. DCA is Dichloroacetic acid and it has been around for years mainly used to treat Lactic acidosis, which there was no clinical benefit. On 24 September 2007, the Department of Medicine of Alberta University reported that after the trial funding was secured, both the Alberta local ethics committee and Health Canada approved the first DCA Clinical Trial in Cancer. This initial trial will be relatively small (enrollment- up to 50 patients in the following 18 months). Check the information out on Wikipedia for more information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichloroacetic_acid This information was taken off the website. Also, if you google DCA you will have a lot of information. Edited October 31, 2008 by PennyLane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 DCA is Dichloroacetic acid and it has been around for years mainly used to treat Lactic acidosis, which there was no clinical benefit. On 24 September 2007, the Department of Medicine of Alberta University reported that after the trial funding was secured, both the Alberta local ethics committee and Health Canada approved the first DCA Clinical Trial in Cancer.[30] This initial trial will be relatively small (enrollment- up to 50 patients in the following 18 months). Check the information out on Wikipedia for more information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichloroacetic_acid That was a year ago when are these tests supposed to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyLane Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 That was a year ago when are these tests supposed to happen? The clinical study was suppose to start in September 2007 in the UK and if it did, it was an 18 month study. Sounds like the study is still going on (?). Fifty patients with brain tumors will be treated with DCA to see if it can have an effect on cancer. That's the last information I could find. Sorry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMcLov1n Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Redemption Song FTW. Hey, maybe DCA could've turned us into nightstalking zombies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstickbonzo Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Why would they want to cure cancer? They make too much money on treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 Redemption Song FTW. Hey, maybe DCA could've turned us into nightstalking zombies? I know it's funny how those two things go together but come on this is real and it proves how those greedy pigs who run this countrys buisness ONLY care about making some dough and dont really care about the humans that gave them there money. even doctors lie!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyLane Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I know it's funny how those two things go together but come on this is real and it proves how those greedy pigs who run this countrys buisness ONLY care about making some dough and dont really care about the humans that gave them there money. even doctors lie!!! I totally disagree with your statement. Research is the only way to know what drugs will help cancer patients. Until you have cancer, you have no idea what patients go through. Cancer drugs have nothing to do with greedy pigs and money. There is still hope for a cure for cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 I totally disagree with your statement. Research is the only way to know what drugs will help cancer patients. Until you have cancer, you have no idea what patients go through. Cancer drugs have nothing to do with greedy pigs and money. There is still hope for a cure for cancer. Did you watch the video? Because it hasn't been further looked into until last year because of the fact of the pharmacutical corporations, and how about Bayer infecting THOUSANDS with AIDS because they couldn't sell the infected drugs in America so they sold overseas just to make money and they aren't even in trouble but the ones in the other countrys who also knowingly sold the drugs are sitting in jail for a long time. But now that there is official research there is indeed hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzldoc Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I totally disagree with your statement. Research is the only way to know what drugs will help cancer patients. Until you have cancer, you have no idea what patients go through. Cancer drugs have nothing to do with greedy pigs and money. There is still hope for a cure for cancer. While I will agree with the research part, I have to say that as someone with experience in this area that they are overly agressive in recruiting subjects for research. I was informed by my surgeon that at stage one there is no evidence that any treatment is beneficial, only until stage two and up has it proved to be of any benefit. Yet the doctor in the cancer unit was almost insistant that I undergo some kind of treatment and oh yeah by the way there is this new drug that we want to administer along with the usuall treatment ( guinee pig anyone? ) Had my cancer progressed to the second stage yes I would have undergone the treatment. I wasn't 100% for a year after my surgery and still things just aren't the same but I tribute that to just getting older. The way I felt right after surgery I really felt like the treatment might have killed me, I'm slim to begin with and lost 13lbs while in the hospital. I was just too weak to even think about anything but bed rest. 3yrs and 5mnths later all test are still coming back negative. The benchmark for being declared cured is 5yrs. My glass is more than half full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyLane Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 (edited) While I will agree with the research part, I have to say that as someone with experience in this area that they are overly agressive in recruiting subjects for research. I was informed by my surgeon that at stage one there is no evidence that any treatment is beneficial, only until stage two and up has it proved to be of any benefit. Yet the doctor in the cancer unit was almost insistant that I undergo some kind of treatment and oh yeah by the way there is this new drug that we want to administer along with the usuall treatment ( guinee pig anyone? ) Had my cancer progressed to the second stage yes I would have undergone the treatment. I wasn't 100% for a year after my surgery and still things just aren't the same but I tribute that to just getting older. The way I felt right after surgery I really felt like the treatment might have killed me, I'm slim to begin with and lost 13lbs while in the hospital. I was just too weak to even think about anything but bed rest. 3yrs and 5mnths later all test are still coming back negative. The benchmark for being declared cured is 5yrs. My glass is more than half full Congratulations being on cancer free! You rock! Edited October 31, 2008 by PennyLane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Man Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 While I will agree with the research part, I have to say that as someone with experience in this area that they are overly agressive in recruiting subjects for research. I was informed by my surgeon that at stage one there is no evidence that any treatment is beneficial, only until stage two and up has it proved to be of any benefit. Yet the doctor in the cancer unit was almost insistant that I undergo some kind of treatment and oh yeah by the way there is this new drug that we want to administer along with the usuall treatment ( guinee pig anyone? ) Had my cancer progressed to the second stage yes I would have undergone the treatment. I wasn't 100% for a year after my surgery and still things just aren't the same but I tribute that to just getting older. The way I felt right after surgery I really felt like the treatment might have killed me, I'm slim to begin with and lost 13lbs while in the hospital. I was just too weak to even think about anything but bed rest. 3yrs and 5mnths later all test are still coming back negative. The benchmark for being declared cured is 5yrs. My glass is more than half full Glad to hear it...keep on truckin' brother!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 While I will agree with the research part, I have to say that as someone with experience in this area that they are overly agressive in recruiting subjects for research. I was informed by my surgeon that at stage one there is no evidence that any treatment is beneficial, only until stage two and up has it proved to be of any benefit. Yet the doctor in the cancer unit was almost insistant that I undergo some kind of treatment and oh yeah by the way there is this new drug that we want to administer along with the usuall treatment ( guinee pig anyone? ) Had my cancer progressed to the second stage yes I would have undergone the treatment. I wasn't 100% for a year after my surgery and still things just aren't the same but I tribute that to just getting older. The way I felt right after surgery I really felt like the treatment might have killed me, I'm slim to begin with and lost 13lbs while in the hospital. I was just too weak to even think about anything but bed rest. 3yrs and 5mnths later all test are still coming back negative. The benchmark for being declared cured is 5yrs. My glass is more than half full It certainly is my man Excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzldoc Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Thanx for the well wishes guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Thanx for the well wishes guys Hey Doc , You have been to hell and back and you have a great sense of humor.What an inspiration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marolyn Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 My glass is more than half full mind over matter...congrats on the excellent attitude!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyLane Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Did you watch the video? Because it hasn't been further looked into until last year because of the fact of the pharmacutical corporations, and how about Bayer infecting THOUSANDS with AIDS because they couldn't sell the infected drugs in America so they sold overseas just to make money and they aren't even in trouble but the ones in the other countrys who also knowingly sold the drugs are sitting in jail for a long time. But now that there is official research there is indeed hope. Of course I watched the video re: cancer. But I hope you have facts in hand regarding Bayer or you work at Bayer. Propaganda can be very dangerous especially when you may not have all the facts, check out FOIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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