led_zep_girl_92 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 What ever it may is you believe in, I´d like to know. God? Heaven? Reincarnation/Rebirth? I believe in the power of things like love or friendship, cuase they are what makes live exciting and wonderful each and every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabbalahone Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 What ever it may is you believe in, I´d like to know. God? Heaven? Reincarnation/Rebirth? I believe in the power of things like love or friendship, cuase they are what makes live exciting and wonderful each and every day. Old school, old, old almost lost old ways school... and love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroselambra~ Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 there is a similar thread on the boards somewhere i still subscribe to einstein's theory ....'that religion and belief in god, can be likened to *childish superstition*' this is something i believe in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDAN Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I believe in Father Christmas, Elves, Hobbits, Orcs, Goblins, Gondor and Rohan, Good and Bad, Yin and Yang, but most of all I believe in myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanna be drummer Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 there is a similar thread on the boards somewhere i still subscribe to einstein's theory ....'that religion and belief in god, can be likened to *childish superstition*' this is something i believe in Einstein wasn't atheist and hated it when people quoted him as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroselambra~ Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Einstein wasn't atheist and hated it when people quoted him as such. i beg to differ einstein thoughts on religion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 When it comes to religion, I call my self a non believer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMcLov1n Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I believe in the Giant Spaghetti Monster. All hail Pastafarianism! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroselambra~ Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 these cuteys definitely exist, as does the soup dragon who shares their planet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireOpal Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I believe in God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen... Dunno about elves. Do they believe in me?, I'd want to know that first. I'm very open-minded about reincarnation. And aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanna be drummer Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 i beg to differ einstein thoughts on religion Einstein begs to differ "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic." "You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth." "In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepBlackZeppelin Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroselambra~ Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Einstein begs to differ "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic." "You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth." "In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views." depends which quote you favour "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this." Albert Einstein i think the old agree/disagree adage will apply to us on this subject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarlaxle 56 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 "In a chapter of his 1936 book Language, Truth, and Logic, A. J. Ayer argued that one could not speak of God's existence, or even the probability of God's existence, since the concept itself was unverifiable and thus nonsensical.[4] Ayer wrote that this ruled out atheism and agnosticism as well as theism because all three positions assume that the sentence "God exists" is meaningful.[5] Given the meaninglessness of theistic claims, Ayer opined that there was "no logical ground for antagonism between religion and natural science",[6] as theism alone does not entail any propositions which the scientific method can falsify." The whole "debate" about the existence of "God" is a meaningless and useless waste of breath. There is no physical evidence, nor any non physical evidence in fact, with which you can seriously debate, beyond: "God is real because how was the universe created then?" "Oh well, you can't prove God exists" "Oh yeah?" .... Waste of time, the concept of God doesn't have a set in stone meaning. It means something different for everyone, so how is it even possible to have an objective debate on it's existence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonham Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I believe the Bible was created for a reason, but the reasoning behind it had nothing to do with an actual god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroselambra~ Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Waste of time, the concept of God doesn't have a set in stone meaning. It means something different for everyone, so how is it even possible to have an objective debate on it's existence? i think your answer is pretty spot on regarding this subject! amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangani Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I believe the Bible was created for a reason, but the reasoning behind it had nothing to do with an actual god. A good summing up of some of the nonsense in the Bible: Hilarious! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=E_EXqdJ4L7I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancin'Days Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I believe in carma. Also the sanctity of mariage and family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonham Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 A good summing up of some of the nonsense in the Bible: Hilarious! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=E_EXqdJ4L7I Haha, classic skit. And tell me about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancin'Days Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I also believe in a courtesy flush when using a public toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virginia Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I believe in God and an afterlife but at this point in life am more spiritual than religious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireOpal Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 To each his or her own, but how can you not believe in a Creator? Everything just didn't evolve randomly. I mean, take a simple machine like a microwave oven*: would all the working elements of the machine just simply, over a very long period of time but with no intelligence designing it or governing the process, happen?? Not bloody likely. Yet human and animal bodies are vastly more complex than a microwave oven or a car. Plus, then you figure in the workings of nature, planets and multiple solar systems... whew. It's been said before, but it's very true: it takes a greater leap of faith to be an atheist than a believer in God. *yes, I know a microwave oven is neither organic nor alive, and so therefore can't grow, reproduce, evolve, etc. I'm using it as an illustration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangani Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 To each his or her own, but how can you not believe in a Creator? Everything just didn't evolve randomly. So how did the Creator happen? It's the same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanna be drummer Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 depends which quote you favour "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this." Albert Einstein You're missing the point entirely. He's not totally dismissing a creator(s) or being that put us here. Yeah, he didn't totally believe in the Judeo-Christian God, but that doesn't make him an atheist. He was an agnostic, very different. He said that many times. Can you find a quote where he says "I'm an atheist."? If not, then the rest of these quotes are really pointless as I've already shown what he said multiple times....which is "I'm an agnostic" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireOpal Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 So how did the Creator happen? It's the same problem. Not really, because God is eternal, not like physical/matter which has an origin and an end. This page explains it much more elegantly than moi: http://www.doesgodexist.org/Phamplets/WhoC...CreatedGod.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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