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Zeppelin Sell Out

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I admit, after learning about all the instances that the band has NOT allowed their music to be used (in movies, games, etc) I always thought, 'Why did they allow 'Rock & Roll' to be used in that Cadillac commercial?'... but IMO it was a localized instance.. Maybe the rationale behind it was it being Robert's favorite car.. who knows? I do think they're fairly consistent in keeping the integrity of their music intact, though. Imagine using a LZ song to sell car insurance or diapers or cell phones.. it would be too, no pun intended, commercial.

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I admit, after learning about all the instances that the band has NOT allowed their music to be used (in movies, games, etc) I always thought, 'Why did they allow 'Rock & Roll' to be used in that Cadillac commercial?'... but IMO it was a localized instance.. Maybe the rationale behind it was it being Robert's favorite car.. who knows? I do think they're fairly consistent in keeping the integrity of their music intact, though. Imagine using a LZ song to sell car insurance or diapers or cell phones.. it would be too, no pun intended, commercial.

I don't know what was the factor behind their decision to license the song to Cadillac but artists putting their songs in commercials is often a way to reach a broader audience - just basic marketing. And I'm sure some do it purely for the money.

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Iggy Pop had his collaboration with David Bowie "Lust for Life" played during Carnival (ship) cruise line commercials -- most folks probably didn't realize the song Carnival chose had some edgy lyrics:

"Here comes Johnny Yen again

With the liquor and drugs

And the flesh machine

He's gonna do another strip tease.

Hey man, where'd ya get that lotion?

Your skin starts itching once you buy the gimmick

About something called love

Love, love, love

Well, thats like hypnotizing chickens.

Well, Im just a modern guy

Of course, Ive had it in the ear(?) before

And I've a lust for life

'Cause Ive a lust for life "

Edited by dpat

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Bob Dylan has licensed "Blowin' In the Wind" to the Co-Op.

It could have at least been Heinz Baked Beans. :)

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Cadillac was definitely before 2008. I was surprised at the ringtones, but thought it was all part of a grand comeback tour.

Mothership

Ringtones

The new The Song Remains The Same

Verizon ad with zepicons.

Reunion Show

?????

What could have been. :boohoo:

OH and I'm sooo glad they didn't do the video game thing. that would put them in the same class with all others. A class they should not be in.

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Bob Dylan has licensed "Blowin' In the Wind" to the Co-Op.

It could have at least been Heinz Baked Beans. :)

Quick thinking. That's a good one!!

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I think no band should be accused by their fans because of "sellout". Sellout to what? Let's just say the song remains the same B) If you like a song, there's no reason to like it less if its played in a commercial

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ah the selling out thread, the whole idea in the 60's and early 70's was to NOT sell out. the music was supposed to serve a higher purpose than to just make money. The counter cultural revolution was about peace and being yourself, a rejection of commercialism and war. but then the hippies turned into yuppies and the music industry became a vehicle for MTV to sell commercial time, the hippies after all had to eat, the Greatful Dead was a great way to sell acid.

Zeppelin because of their break up was spared this ugly transition, now reappearring on the scene 25 years later the original context is lost.

Luckily for us the music speaks for itself and no matter what context Zeppelin is put into the sense of self expression and freedom cannot be watered down.

Even if the guys did sell out properly, such as Robert touring just for the money, it can never take away from their individual and combined achievments. IMNSHOP

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I'm Old School. Neil Young had it right in his This Note's for You:

Don't sing for Pepsi

Don't sing for Coke

Don't sing for nobody

Makes me look like a joke

I vaguely remember a snippet from an interview in which Robert was asked about that tune (in the context of a special report on rock endorsements, featuring at least one commercial of Robert downing a bottle of Coke to the tune of "Tall Cool One" on Japanese television). I don't remember exactly what he said, but I do remember that his tone was pretty sheepish.

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I'm Old School. Neil Young had it right in his This Note's for You:

Don't sing for Pepsi

Don't sing for Coke

Don't sing for nobody

Makes me look like a joke

I vaguely remember a snippet from an interview in which Robert was asked about that tune (in the context of a special report on rock endorsements, featuring at least one commercial of Robert downing a bottle of Coke to the tune of "Tall Cool One" on Japanese television). I don't remember exactly what he said, but I do remember that his tone was pretty sheepish.

It was on MTV - an interview with Kurt Loder (If you're thinking of the same one as me). Basically his attitude was he totally accepted Neil Young's stance on it but he (Robert) felt that if he could reach a broader based audience, he didn't see the harm. Of course then he joked that he was going to do a commercial for a hotel chain in Colorado where the beds were really nice :D:lol:

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Big deal !!! God forbid a younger kid could get exposed to a older band and like it because they heard it in a cool t.v. spot. Why was it cool you ask ? Because it was a good song from a good band !! My kid's love all the newer top 20 b.s. song's, But they also love older rock music from me playing it and games like guitar hero.

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I would say this is worse than the "Robert wrecked the reunion" threads.., but it's not...

... probably created by the same retarded suck of a person though.

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I've brought up this thread to say, that while Zeppelin imo, tastefully lent their "Rock'n'Roll" to Cadillac, it looks like The Rolling Stones have sold their souls (again), and are selling their "Sympathy For The Devil", to Mercedes-Benz, for an upcoming promotion beginning Feb. 3rd. (SuperBowl Sunday).

Edited by The Rover

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I don't find songwriters selling rights to their music to ad companies absurd. What is absurd is the idea that anyone would consider buying a car based on the music in its ad.

When I see an ad that uses popular music my immediate thought is that they should have put the money for the song's rights toward making a better product or a reduced retail price.

it would be more appropriate IMO for ad companies to commission original works and credit songwriters.

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As long as there isnt a bunch of changes...you can make money...but just dont let them screw up the music...

What I hate is when after the effort of the NFL to ban the Gary Glitter song because he was using the money to rape little girls in the brothels in the eastern rim...Hewlet Packard turns arround and uses "Do you wanna touch me" in their ads...

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As long as there isnt a bunch of changes...you can make money...but just dont let them screw up the music...

What I hate is when after the effort of the NFL to ban the Gary Glitter song because he was using the money to rape little girls in the brothels in the eastern rim...Hewlet Packard turns arround and uses "Do you wanna touch me" in their ads...

Whether a song is purchased by a fan or for use in an ad, it would be fruitless to monitor how the artist uses the income. Glitter would not be alone is spending his money on such services, if in fact he actually does. And what about people who make their money in businesses other than the music industry? The only difference between those with profile and wealth and anyone else is that they can perhaps afford to hide their actions more effectively. Why should public people be held to any different standard than the rest of the population?

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Whether a song is purchased by a fan or for use in an ad, it would be fruitless to monitor how the artist uses the income. Glitter would not be alone is spending his money on such services, if in fact he actually does. And what about people who make their money in businesses other than the music industry? The only difference between those with profile and wealth and anyone else is that they can perhaps afford to hide their actions more effectively. Why should public people be held to any different standard than the rest of the population?

Yeah...but everybody knows that Gary Glitter does that...and yes Pete Townsend...Micheal Jackson...R. Kelly...etc...

Shouldnt we all be held up to those standards...Pete...Micheal...and R Kelly didnt have to serve one day...here in the USA the unfamous pedophiles serve up to 25 years on each count...

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Yeah...but everybody knows that Gary Glitter does that...and yes Pete Townsend...Micheal Jackson...R. Kelly...etc...

Shouldnt we all be held up to those standards...Pete...Micheal...and R Kelly didnt have to serve one day...here in the USA the unfamous pedophiles serve up to 25 years on each count...

I definitely think everyone should be subject to the same laws penalties. The problem is though, sometimes we are dealing with allegations some of which may be speculation, media jump up, what might be fairly accurate guessing. If someone is convicted of a crime beyond all doubt, then no amount of payola should excuse them from appropriate punishment, whether they are a government official, celebrity or the guy next door.

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