punksandwich Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I knew this cold front had to be Robert's fault He could fix that though with the technique I described. From the land of the ice and snow, Valhalla I am COMING !!!!! Now tell me, don't you think that'd warm it up ? He and Alison could also sing Hootchie Cootchie Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentuckygirl Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 He could fix that though with the technique I described. From the land of the ice and snow, Valhalla I am COMING !!!!! Now tell me, don't you think that'd warm it up ? He and Alison could also sing Hootchie Cootchie Man. I cannot speculate on that. If you think so........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punksandwich Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I cannot speculate on that. If you think so........ I'm a Believer, I couldn't leave her if I tried. Assuming of course if I was lucky enough to land a catch as she is ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadiepearl Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 :yesnod: I love this photo of Robert!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadiepearl Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Sorry, the photo didn't show, but BRSPLED knows what I'm talking about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBJ Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 It seems like not too long ago Jimmy and Jonesy where filled full of optimism and getting on good with Bonham. Obviously they wanted Robert, but I think they could have easily gotten a new guy to create a fulfilling alternate project. What could have killed these plans? From all accounts that I've heard reported is that this Raising Sand II project is a short lived thing that would be wrapped up by the end of summer. What's the one thing that would shut down the plans of J J & J with a new singer? A promise from Robert that he would revisit the idea. Robert has been a smart business guy in his solo career. When things loose momentum he bails before it becomes absurd. Likewise, when thing are riding high he sticks with it. Raising Sand has has been his biggest success since No Quarter. It's been his biggest commercial success without members of Zeppelin along for the ride since Now and Zen (20 years ago). And in a lot of ways his most successful critical aclaim ever (if grammy awards account for anything). It's no wonder he chose not to do a reunion. He can get back together with Zep any old time. A reunion would be an automatic peak. He has to ride the peaks and valleys of his own career a lot more carefully however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glicine Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 What's the one thing that would shut down the plans of J J & J with a new singer? A promise from Robert that he would revisit the idea. Remember what Robert said just before Christmas. I still see Jimmy quite a lot and he’s very complimentary and supportive of what I’m doing, but we are in different places now and you have to go on to do different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanadu Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) Remember what Robert said just before Christmas. I think they are almost in the same place regarding song writing; intense pressure and high standards. A huge part of Jimmy's reputation is based on his compositions, and Plant's song writing peaked on Mighty ReArranger. Yet the current situation is that Jimmy hasn't released new material in a while, and Robert chooses to sing beautiful music that aready has been performed by other artists. Now, I have some confidence that Robert at least will one day write original material again, and when he starts working on it he just might reconsider working with Page and Jones. Edited January 15, 2009 by Zanadu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterswalk Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I think it is sad that some people are so upset with Robert Plant and would use such unpleasant language to describe him. Robert Plant is a great vocalist. I guess some people have uncontrollable anger issues. Wooooooooooooooooooooosh its over the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brspled Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Sorry, the photo didn't show, but BRSPLED knows what I'm talking about! Yes, I know. It's from his solo concert in Rio, back in 1994. He looked soooooooooooooooooooooooo good back then.... Sorry, off-topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogie23 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 So he got Bob Geldof to schedule Live Aid, and talked all those other bands into playing at it, at the EXACT MOMENT when he was promoting an album, due to having an active career (a point which didn't apply to a single other act on the bill)? The man's cunning is fiendish! He probably rushed Now and Zen out to coincide with Atlantic Records' anniversary, and got himself invited to perform at Knebworth at a time when he had an album to promote, due to having an active career, solely so that he could invite Jimmy to perform with him and then say . What a bastard! Man, and we though it was Jimmy who was in league with Satan--jeez . . . Oh come on...you know exactly what I mean ! He never refused a reunion when a reunion could be a good vehicle for some more promotion and attention from the media and the fans, he jumped at the chances he was offered at the right time, for sure he is a very clever business man ! Honestly I think that the collaboration with Krauss is a smart (and succesfull) commercial move, don't tell me that with Krauss he is exploring new territories, it's just well crafted pop-country music !!! Why he should leave this collaboration that allowed him to sell millions of records and then go to play with a bunch of old musicians !!! Doesn't matter they are Led Zeppelin !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brspled Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Oh come on...you know exactly what I mean ! He never refused a reunion when a reunion could be a good vehicle for some more promotion and attention from the media and the fans, he jumped at the chances he was offered at the right time, for sure he is a very clever business man ! Honestly I think that the collaboration with Krauss is a smart (and succesfull) commercial move, don't tell me that with Krauss he is exploring new territories, it's just well crafted pop-country music !!! Why he should leave this collaboration that allowed him to sell millions of records and then go to play with a bunch of old musicians !!! Doesn't matter they are Led Zeppelin !! You're completely right. Sure his collaboration with Krauss will sell more than a colaboration with JP, JPJ and Jason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogie23 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 You're completely right. Sure his collaboration with Krauss will sell more than a colaboration with JP, JPJ and Jason. That's simply terrible, but this is music we have today and it seems what people like today !!! Call me nostalgic, I don't care...I like the real rock !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquamarine Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Oh come on...you know exactly what I mean ! He never refused a reunion when a reunion could be a good vehicle for some more promotion and attention from the media and the fans, he jumped at the chances he was offered at the right time, for sure he is a very clever business man ! Honestly I think that the collaboration with Krauss is a smart (and succesfull) commercial move, don't tell me that with Krauss he is exploring new territories, it's just well crafted pop-country music !!! Why he should leave this collaboration that allowed him to sell millions of records and then go to play with a bunch of old musicians !!! Doesn't matter they are Led Zeppelin !! Yup, I knew what you meant, all right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimp Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 all bands must die eventually, it's merely a matter of how and when. and I'd say given the O2, if "Led Zeppelin" never plays again, it was a pretty good death. Led zeppelin 'died' nearly 30 years ago, longer ago than the age of many who use this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddot Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 oh come on, they were offered hundreds of millions of dollars to tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninelives Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Oh come on...you know exactly what I mean ! He never refused a reunion when a reunion could be a good vehicle for some more promotion and attention from the media and the fans, he jumped at the chances he was offered at the right time, for sure he is a very clever business man ! Honestly I think that the collaboration with Krauss is a smart (and succesfull) commercial move, don't tell me that with Krauss he is exploring new territories, it's just well crafted pop-country music !!! Why he should leave this collaboration that allowed him to sell millions of records and then go to play with a bunch of old musicians !!! Doesn't matter they are Led Zeppelin !! I don't think Robert's decision to work with Alison was some well thought out "commercial" move. I don't think any of them had any idea how well the record would go over. Robert is an explorer. He's always been into being challenged by musical areas he's not done before. For Robert this IS new territory on many levels. I'd hardly call those songs well crafted pop country music at all! Have you watched CMT's top 20 countdown - that is much more pop country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninelives Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 It seems like not too long ago Jimmy and Jonesy where filled full of optimism and getting on good with Bonham. Obviously they wanted Robert, but I think they could have easily gotten a new guy to create a fulfilling alternate project. What could have killed these plans? From all accounts that I've heard reported is that this Raising Sand II project is a short lived thing that would be wrapped up by the end of summer. What's the one thing that would shut down the plans of J J & J with a new singer? A promise from Robert that he would revisit the idea. Robert has been a smart business guy in his solo career. When things loose momentum he bails before it becomes absurd. Likewise, when thing are riding high he sticks with it. Raising Sand has has been his biggest success since No Quarter. It's been his biggest commercial success without members of Zeppelin along for the ride since Now and Zen (20 years ago). And in a lot of ways his most successful critical aclaim ever (if grammy awards account for anything). It's no wonder he chose not to do a reunion. He can get back together with Zep any old time. A reunion would be an automatic peak. He has to ride the peaks and valleys of his own career a lot more carefully however. I don't think he bails at all. I think he moves onto other musical genres and seeks out musicians who will best fit whatever it is he has in mind. There was no momentum lost with Strange Sensation - that album was very well received and he toured nearly 2 years after that. It's all about his desire to not stay in one place long which is more a creative thing than bailing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danelectro Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) I don't think Robert's decision to work with Alison was some well thought out "commercial" move. I don't think any of them had any idea how well the record would go over. Robert is an explorer. He's always been into being challenged by musical areas he's not done before. For Robert this IS new territory on many levels. I'd hardly call those songs well crafted pop country music at all! Have you watched CMT's top 20 countdown - that is much more pop country. Agreed, an no RS is not even remotely pop country. As much of a chance and challenge as it was for RP to take on that project it was even more so for AK. Personally I think it was one of the best things RP ever did, that he wants more is not a surprise to me. Personally I thought it was good news when RS II was set in motion, I'm not interested in any modern day rehash of Zep. As excited as I was about the O2 show I watched the DVD once and likely won't ever watch it again, it was neat and all but not close to Zep in their prime. Edited January 16, 2009 by danelectro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page_Maniac Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Yeah, go on! Because on the one hand, Robert is just a second-choice midlands loser who would never have got anywhere in the music business without Jimmy - and yet on the other, he manages to be responsible for Jimmy's career these days. Don't blame Jimmy for anything - ever! Oh please- be my guest, you pathetic loser. So --- Robert is a midlands loser and I am a pathetic loser. That's Great! Maybe we are related! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigzepfan Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Sometimes Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Ehhhh....they'll play together again. RP and JP are like a dysfunctional couple who can't seem to stay together, but can't seem to stay apart either..not forever, anyway. Most of the events they've gotten together for since LZ have been more spur of the moment - certainly not planned years in advance. Neither of them ever have, or ever will, be able to find another artist with whom they can share that same level of chemistry, and I'm sure they both know that. There may not be a full-scale tour, but they're not done. I always trust my Spidey-senses...and they're twitching like mad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmie ray Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Just wait for Robert to finish up with Allison Krauss. Then there might actually be a chance. Damn, I hope he has a premature ejaculation condition! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms_zeppelin94 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 I knew this arctic front had to be Robert's fault Let the sun beat down upon my face, Please!! It was 10 degrees this morning! And I hate cold weather Ehhhh....they'll play together again. RP and JP are like a dysfunctional couple who can't seem to stay together, but can't seem to stay apart either..not forever, anyway. Most of the events they've gotten together for since LZ have been more spur of the moment - certainly not planned years in advance. Neither of them ever have, or ever will, be able to find another artist with whom they can share that same level of chemistry, and I'm sure they both know that. There may not be a full-scale tour, but they're not done. I always trust my Spidey-senses...and they're twitching like mad! Exactly!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyp22 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Yeah, go on, blame Robert--it'll come as a complete surprise to him! I'm pretty shocked myself! Place the blame squarely where it needs to be -- on Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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