Electrophile Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here. The usual stereotype is that conservatives are more religious then liberals is it not? I don't know about that. There are stereotypes about the right and religion, but I don't think they have anything to do with the right being more religious in toto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninelives Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 To talk about what can be done is one thing. To accomplish it is another. I hope this Obama of yours comes through. But, lets face it, he is limited to what he can do. The president has only so much power. His veto power is one thing, the ability to really change things cant come from one man. It is a tough task ahead. The job market sucks. Big time. Is it worth going into thousands of dollars of debt in college loans as the tap federal loans arent worth shit compared to the 70's, and gamble to whether a job will be available? I think it is too much of a gamble if you have to borrow 5 digits. I have an AS degree and have just about 3 yrs of college. I could go get my BS or BA in less than a year. But for what? To get turned down for jobs constantly. Location of course makes a differance. NY sucks. I have heard that Arizona and Nevada are good places to tackle a job? But who knows? Yes accomplishing it is the key. It's going to take a long time to dig our country out of the mess it's in currently. No easy task for anyone but I need to be optimistic and believe that over time, things will improve again. We just need to be patient and I know in this economy, that's not so easy. I saw some news item that said New York is one of the worst hit states job loss wise and is going to get worse before it gets better I've heard Nevada is one of the better places job wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punksandwich Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I've heard Nevada is one of the better places job wise. They're always hiring here, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryingbluerain Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I can't wait either. Cancer is going to be cured that day too. Happy Days are here again. And let's not forget WORLD peace. The world will again love America, and Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanna be drummer Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 And let's not forget WORLD peace. The world will again love America, and Americans. Not so sure about that. Not for a while anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marolyn Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 The world will again love America, and Americans. i can attest it's already happening!!!!...people are coming up and saying such nice things when they see my obama pin...such a nice change from all the times i have been yelled at over the past 2 1/2 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marolyn Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 It is a great thing, but what about the economy is all i gotta say. too much media coverage and way too happy, is what it seems from this tv. happiness and optimism.... exactly what the economy needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyPage1977 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Our biggest enemies are the media and stock market speculators: FDR once said, "The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself." It worked out pretty well back then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Stock market speculators would probably stimulate the economy. The problem is there are not enough of them buying stocks and the market has not recovered. There was a rally shortly after New Year's Day but that did not bring the market above the 10,000 level. The Dow Jones Industrial Average is still crawling along at a snail's pace and continues to hover between 8,000-9,000, indicating a continuing recession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danelectro Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 As an Obama supporter I'm not crazy about all the money being spent on this thing. The country is in the ditch, homeless people are still sleeping outside, unemployment is climbing and millions are being spent on a party. Mr. CHANGE could have toned it down a bit, it sure would have been a sign he is serious about making his mark out of the gate. No doubt it's a historic day but we could have honored that on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punksandwich Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 As an Obama supporter I'm not crazy about all the money being spent on this thing. The country is in the ditch, homeless people are still sleeping outside, unemployment is climbing and millions are being spent on a party. Mr. CHANGE could have toned it down a bit, it sure would have been a sign he is serious about making his mark out of the gate. No doubt it's a historic day but we could have honored that on the cheap. HE can't do anything about it, nor can anyone. It's a vicious grip that's captured all of us, and sad to say, the beast of tradition will probably never change. In times of trouble, people want an escape even when they're actually gripped and locked into it without knowing that. It's on in the background here, and I'm somewhat intrigued but yeah, it's so outlandish in so many respects. But views as ours are often seen as dis-respectful, because we're going against the accepted standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Prime Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 he is not my president, and never will be * not a republican, an extreme liberal * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danelectro Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 HE can't do anything about it, nor can anyone. It's a vicious grip that's captured all of us, and sad to say, the beast of tradition will probably never change. In times of trouble, people want an escape even when they're actually gripped and locked into it without knowing that. It's on in the background here, and I'm somewhat intrigued but yeah, it's so outlandish in so many respects. But views as ours are often seen as dis-respectful, because we're going against the accepted standard. He certainly could have spoken up and said it would be better to not have an excessive and extravagant ball. The actual inauguration is a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pb Derigable Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 he is not my president, and never will be * not a republican, an extreme liberal * Pres. Bush whole presidency was screwed by the cocksuckers whom did not vote for him. Lets not go down that path. We are better than those people. Pres. Bush is gone from Office. If the hatred for Pres. Bush continues, than Pres. Obamas time is already a failure. If Iraq fails, Obama is gone. If the economy doesn't bounce back, Obama is gone. If he fails to recognize the threats we have on this country and we are attack, Obama is gone. I do not wish Obama to be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punksandwich Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 He certainly could have spoken up and said it would be better to not have an excessive and extravagant ball. The actual inauguration is a given. Oh yeah, it sure is and that's no problem. One thing I'm grateful for is it seems like they have a good sound system. Did you hear Aretha belting out The National Anthem ? I wonder if she's gonna serve up 4 fried chicken's and burnt toast for Jake this afternoon in the Chicago blues district ? Think ! Think (think) think (think) think (think) think (think) think (think) think (think) You better think (think) think about what you're trying to do to me Yeah, think (think, think), let your mind go, let yourself be free Let's go back, let's go back, let's go way on back when I didn't even know you, you came to me and too much you wouldn't take I ain't no psychiatrist, I ain't no doctor with degree It don't take too much high IQ's to see what you're doing to me You better think (think) think about what you're trying to do to me Yeah, think (think, think), let your mind go, let yourself be free Oh freedom (freedom), freedom (freedom), freedom, yeah freedom Freedom (freedom), freedom (freedom), freedom, ooh freedom There ain't nothing you could ask I could answer you but I won't (I won't) I was gonna change, but I'm not, to keep doing things I don't You better think (think) think about what you're trying to do to me Yeah, think (think, think), let your mind go, let yourself be free People walking around everyday, playing games that they can score And I ain't gonna be the loser my way, ah, be careful you don't lose yours You better think (think) think about what you're trying to do to me Yeah, think (think, think), let your mind go, let yourself be free You need me (need me) and I need you (don't you know) Without eachother there ain't nothing people can do Oh freedom (freedom), freedom (freedom), freedom, yeah freedom Freedom (freedom), freedom (freedom), freedom, ooh freedom There ain't nothing you could ask I could answer you but I won't (I won't) I was gonna change, but I'm not, if you're doing things I don't You better think (think) think about what you're trying to do to me Yeah, think (think, think), let your mind go, let yourself be free You need me (need me) and I need you (don't you know) Without eachother there ain't nothing people can do (To the bone for deepness, to the bone for deepness, to the bone for deepness, think about it) (To the bone for deepness, to the bone for deepness, to the bone for deepness, think about it) (To the bone for deepness, to the bone for deepness, to the bone for deepness, think about it) (To the bone for deepness, to the bone for deepness, to the bone for deepness, think about it) You had better stop and think before you think, think!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIRST LEDZEP Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 As we have just sworn in President Barack Obama I'd like to say Thank you to out going President Bush. He served under difficult conditions and may have made judgments that many have disagreed with strongly. But what man or woman can not say the same about themselves. GOD BLESS AMERICA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punksandwich Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Did anyone notice how within Barack's speech he said "When the Levee Breaks" and soon after "Stairway (to rise)<something like that. Pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pb Derigable Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Did anyone notice how within Barack's speech he said "When the Levee Breaks" and soon after "Stairway (to rise)<something like that. Pretty cool. Hell, fuck the Olympics, if he brings Zep to Chicago, Ill vote for him. (no, not really) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanadu Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Did anyone notice how within Barack's speech he said "When the Levee Breaks" and soon after "Stairway (to rise)<something like that. Pretty cool. I don't remember what he said exactly, but he did say something Zeppelinish for sure. Oh, and Aretha Franklin was absolutely amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punksandwich Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Did anyone notice how within Barack's speech he said "When the Levee Breaks" and soon after "Stairway" (to rise)<something like that. Pretty cool. I doubt he was making any referances to Led Zeppelin. He probably likes KC and the Sunshine band? Or AWB? Shake shake shake. Shake your booty! Get down tonight! I wouldnt want that job for all the whiskey in Ireland. I do wish the man luck. Its a tough time to have to take over. I wonder what old George will do first? Maybe a little quail hunting with Cheney? I don't remember what he said exactly, but he did say something Zeppelinish for sure. Oh, and Aretha Franklin was absolutely amazing! Here's the exact text from the speech, pretty close to the end, For as much as government can do and must do, it is ultimately the faith and determination of the American people upon which this nation relies. It is the kindness to take in a stranger when the levees break, the selflessness of workers who would rather cut their hours than see a friend lose their job which sees us through our darkest hours. It is the firefighter's courage to storm a stairway filled with smoke, but also a parent's willingness to nurture a child, that finally decides our fate. I also want to point out in this same text, friend was mentioned. Add the 'S', and there's another Zep reference. VOILA !!! Booyah !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punksandwich Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Well the Levee comment was about Katrina for sure. Gotta protect the Royal Orleans, JPJ's ole sweetheart might still be there, tools still intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manderlyh Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Did anyone notice how within Barack's speech he said "When the Levee Breaks" and soon after "Stairway (to rise)<something like that. Pretty cool. For as much as government can do and must do, it is ultimately the faith and determination of the American people upon which this nation relies. It is the kindness to take in a stranger when the levees break, the selflessness of workers who would rather cut their hours than see a friend lose their job which sees us through our darkest hours. It is the firefighter's courage to storm a stairway filled with smoke, but also a parent's willingness to nurture a child, that finally decides our fate. I'm thinking it was an allusion to Katrina...and 9/11... ...not really to anything Zeppelin. Full text of President Obama's Inaugural Speech...CNN.com Edited to say: I guess punksandwich beat me to it. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punksandwich Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Of course it was for Katrina, but don't you see the irony ? The coincidence of Levee and Stairway. Let your mind drift a little, don't be so literal. Or should I say, LITTLEral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manderlyh Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I'm not being literal. I'm being honest. It wasn't in any way an allusion to the music of Zeppelin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanadu Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I'm thinking it was an allusion to Katrina...and 9/11... ...not really to anything Zeppelin. You spoilsport... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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