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Ryan Porter

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About Ryan Porter

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  • Birthday 07/26/1986

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    Park Hills, MO
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    Music (Documentaries, records, etc. - Everything), computer gaming, St. Louis Cardinals and Blues
  1. See, I wish I could get a hold of some of the bootlegs. I have no idea where you guys get all of them! O.O I'd love to hear boots from the '71-'72 era Zeppelin. Especially their '72 tour.
  2. Okay, drummers. I know there's gotta be more than one drummer here, other than myself. This drum solo has been the driving inspiration for my drumming since I first heard it back in 2004 (also the year I started drumming, at the age of 18), and I still am amazed by the smooth mechanics and drum rolls he had. I mean, good god! The drum sound and playing on this solo is MONSTROUS! I've seen performances of Moby Dick from other years, and I still think this is the best I've seen. What is the concensus?
  3. I've seen this a long time ago. Not bad, for a 12 year old drummer. I like how his teacher is Bobby Rondinelli. That's pretty sweet stuff. I really hate the Vistalite sets though ... I much preferred Bonham's old Ludwig green set, or his '77-'80 set.
  4. Ryan Porter

    Led Cream?

    I personally enjoy Cream and Led Zeppelin ... But one thing I have to ammend, is to the poster who said Cream was the first band to play with very loud volume ... apparently you've never heard of The Who, who were around quite a bit before Cream was even imagined. Just sayin'. And as far as Jimmy Page and his guitar prowess is concerned, I love his playing for what it is. However, I do have to say that there is just one guitarist who has either come close to, or surpassed his soloing, and that's gotta be Jimi Hendrix. I have been in love with his guitar playing since the moment I heard it ... but that's just me, I guess.
  5. I completely agree there, which is a point I didn't properly convey in the last couple of posts in this thread - His current abilities show maturity, and acknowledgement, which are definitely keys to being able to sing better, especially at his age and vocal wear and tear. He's definitely more conscious of his vocals now - As I alluded previously, if he only was that conscious back in the 70's ... we might just have Percy still, today! However, we may not have had the Zeppelin we ended up with, ultimately. So you win some, you lose some, I suppose.
  6. Case and point; Before he found his way back to music again, Robert was a bricklayer for a little while. And if you look at a certain '66 picture of him, you can definitely tell he has some muscle to him. Hell, even today, he has some pretty particularly ridiculous forearms, for just a measely singer.
  7. Well, suppose he didn't come down to AIDS ... I honestly think his voice would still hold itself up. I doubt it would still be as melodic as it was in his 70's days (although he seemed like as a proficient singer, he only got better as he aged), but I'm certain he'd still make quite an impact. Citing good albums that show this well are A Kind Of Magic, and the album prior to that. He is still quite capable, and even during the AIDS, was still singing QUITE well. Just listening to Innuendo ... absolutely brilliant delivery through impending death ... If that isn't emotional, I don't know what is.
  8. I don't really think it's so bold. If he always sings it like he did at O2, then he can have success, instead of stretching his vocals to points he has been unable to reach since the ladder 70's. As I type this, I'm watching Earl's Court '75, "Dazed And Confused". Exhibit A: As he attempts to even SLIGHTLY stretch his voice and even bring a bit of loudness to those notes, his voices just CRACKS - Utterly shuts off. In '77 this was definitely not nearly as bad, admittedly, but was still quite far from perfect. In 79/80, his voice was really just a different thing altogether. I won't say it's worse than his '75 presence ... I actually thought his voice was going to change towards something more effective. Admittedly, I enjoy ITOD, and what he did with his voice. It become so overwhelmingly demolishing, and extremely emotional ... unfortunately, that ferocity didn't last long past that album, and he kept trying to stretch his voice to boundaries it couldn't ... and WA-LAH! No more Percy. Just Plant, Zeppelin-less, and trying to find his way. I think Live Aid is another great example of how bad his voice became for the Zeppelin stuff. At points his voice hits it decently, but inconsistently, and often crackingly. O2 was a success story, and I believe strongly that the respect they gave Plant was about time. Plant handled his duty well that night, and if I wore a hat, it'd be off to him. But you can't possibly tell me his vocals were a consistent effective force past '73 for Zeppelin tunes in their original tuning. It's just not true. Maybe as an emotional force, yes. But technical ability and really just SOUND? No, I just don't think Plant was the same.
  9. I agree - I edited my post above as you replied to me to account for that. But then again, recall, they had to change their key, too. But that's really something they should have better accounted for when his voice started to hurt in the mid-70's - A change of pace for him, vocally. Yes, the show had to go on, but there are better ways to make that show go as it must. It's a miracle, when you think of Freddie Mercury in that same state ... he ALWAYS fought those blisters, too. The main difference for him is that he didn't ever have that surgery, though. It DID take a toll on his voice in the 80's, though - Especially with his AIDS issue.
  10. Well, obviously yes. Of course he would change, but had Robert Plant not overtly abused his voice, he might well still be able to hit some of his high range. As it has been since really '79, though, his voice just hasn't had the kick. I do like his new approach in the more recent times, but most of the time, when he's attempting to sing Zeppelin now, he just plain can't do it. And really hasn't been able to effectively (as he used to in his younger years) for the better part of 30 years. I mean, really ... just LISTEN to that '79-'80 stuff with Zeppelin before the late Bonzo died. His voice is just completely awful at points! In many ways, it was probably best that Zeppelin ended when it did ... it DID give him an opportunity to explore a different way to sing, which definitely has enabled him to prolong his career. I will say this, though - The O2 Arena show was definitely solid on his part, considering. His approach was more mature, and more controlled than probably any time in all of Zeppelin's history - A pity it came far too late.
  11. This is my first post in this forum, after being a long-time lurker ... I will say that as a whole, Zeppelin is my #2 favorite band of all time only behind Black Sabbath (as it was this band that got me to start drumming, and made me explore the rest of classic rock altogether ... really a definition for me). However, as far as technically efficient, I think it's fairly inarguable that Robert Plant is extremely sloppy, moreso after '72. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Robert Plant greatly, but the best years he had, for me, were DEFINITELY in his hey-days of the first 4 albums of Zeppelin. Houses of the Holy showcased what can definitely be heard as the beginning of the changes of his voice ... listen closely to the tracks of this album, and compare them to Zeppelin IV. Listen carefully, and you can just hear the tonalities in his voice are changing. A great example would be "The Song Remains The Same", specifically at the end, when the weird over-the-top production of his voice ceases, and you can hear his almost through-the-nose humming at the end. His voice only continues to change from track to track on this album. Physical Graffiti, obviously, is the end of Robert's early voice altogether on the '74 recorded tracks. On the contrary, while not always being 100% on every single tour, Freddie Mercury, even through being the drug addict he was, and even dying of Aids for 5 years, STILL had enduring range and power to his voice that Robert can't even match ... AND he was older than Plant! As for the octave comment, to whomever left that, I don't think that Robert's voice honestly had all that powerful range in his early years. Honestly, it was fueled more by falsetto and just raw belting in that range. Freddie Mercury, it has been said, if you look around enough, has a 4, and sometimes FIVE octave note range. It is not hard to imagine that, if you listen to albums like "Sheer Heart Attack", or "A Night At The Opera". The beauty of Freddie's voice was that he could easily be raw and rock'n'roll, but then could become operatic and melodic at any given time. I can't think of a time Robert ever had even that much control over his own voice. If you were to ask me on either two counts (technicality, or preferrability) ... A) Factually, it would have certainly been Freddie, and I think that the world's most popular songs driven by vocals, such as the rather simplistic "We Will Rock You", and "Killer Queen", or "Tie Your Mother Down" would have surpassed recognizability over Robert's deliveries in other well known Zeppelin songs such as "Rock 'N' Roll", "Black Dog", and "Stairway To Heaven". Do bare in mind that I love Zeppelin, and Robert. A lot of what has fueled my opinion of his lacking 70's prowess (which as has been said by oh so many interviews and reviews over the decades are his best years), are the bootlegs you can catch in the mid-late 70's of Robert's failing vocals. Granted, I am of the opinion that his '77 performances had better results over his '75 tour (which I think can be attributed to his vocal chord surgeries). I just firmly believe that Freddie had a much more all-around voice, even though he suffered the same vocal nodules that Robert did. Yes, this is my opinion, and I'm sure it'll get argued with. I just hate to see such one-sided bias, or such callous statements as was quoted above, whether you meant it as worded, or not.
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