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    Led Zeppelin vs The Who

    in Led Zeppelin Newbies

    Posted · Edited by zdr

    I had to register on this site because Led Zepplin fans always provide me with a laugh. This non-stop comparing between the stodgy Led Zepplin and The Who is unbelievable. Why do Led Zep fans feel in so much competition with The Who?

    (...long winding post you can find on page 2...)

    This is precious: a Who fan registering to the Led Zeppelin site in order to troll complaine about the behaviour of the pesky Zep heads ?

    Seriously? Because my perception is different: on every music forum I visit, there is not one "Vs" thread involving Beatles, Stones, Zepppelin, Floyd, Purple that is not having the mandatory Who fan shouting "The Who is better than both" (if you don't believe me, show me some examples of Zep fans infesting debates about Who Vs .., and I will show you the same amount+1, the other way around).

    I know, the inferiority complex might be immense for a band that in the 60's was put by someone (the Rolling Stone Magazine? I can't quite remember) alongside Beatles and Stones as the great triumvirate of rock, but got left behind in the stardom by the two .

    Even a bitter Townshend said once that they (Zep) "became so much bigger than The Who in so many ways".

    If you look in the review mirror, the Who have some golden past (in the 70's the music magazines loved them, they were revered by the media as innovators; they were loved by the punks while the other rock acts of the time were despised) but they kind of lost the momentum, while Zep just got bigger and greater, seizing more and more awards and accolades and being recognized by more and more music artists and journalists as one of the most influential band of the century.

    Actually, now Zep are ahead in the awards departament, having The Polar Prize (called also the "Nobel Prize for music")

    Zep didn't have to play the Super Bowl or lease songs for TV shows and computer games in order to avoid sinking into oblivion: every movement they do generate enough buzz and cashflow to keep them visible.

    Cultural impact is not just having your song played on CSI: is having your name in the public conscience. IMO there is more cultural impact in being mentioned by Al Jazeera, or by the president of Russia in an informal meeting, or by the president of Venezuela, than in having your song heard by millions that not necessarily know your name.

    I'd say that the "No Stairway" sign in a popular movie proves a huge cultural impact - Zep is generating memes!

    Comparing individual musician's skills can go either way (but as greatness go IMO Page>>>Pete, Entwhistle >JPJ, Plant >> Daltrey and Bonham<>Moon)

    (and I'm not counting my dislike for Daltry's voice -that nasal tone, like he have polyps, annoys me at maximum level- cause many people seems to enjoy it)

    But what sells the deal for me is the music:

    In Zep's music I like the sound: complex, layered but with a firm structure at the same time. And that's normal for a band with such a tight rhythmic section.

    With Who's music I have the impression of chaos: a simple melodic line ("most songs are singable", as a poster noticed above) on top of which Moon and Entwhistle are showing off their skills. And that's only normal for a band with such a flamboyant drummer and bass player.

    And it's a matter of personal taste which kind of music you like better. I can't go past the "manufactured" vibe emited by Who's music (like, after they (Pete) come out with the basic song, they start to ornate it with musical flourishes); Zep's music seem to be born synergic.

    But to say that "this" ot "that" Who song is "more complex than anything Led Zeppelin did" (and I saw this written many times) is outrageous: how can anyone say that, when they uses different time signatures, microtones, polyrhythms, polymeters (and I'm sure our musician fans could add more)

    And don't start with the "original songwriting": I see more resemblance between Louie Louie and I Can'e Explain than between Stairway and Taurus

    In the end, Zep remains the most proeminent rock figure of the 70's, driving the Who fans crazy because they think their band is better.

    Simply as that.

    Finding Led Zeppelin in unrelated places

    in Led Zeppelin Master Forum

    Posted

    Lately I had some pleasant surprises with two TV shows I followed:

    *in the episode "Shot In The Dark" of HAVEN (S04E11) there was this exchange:

    -Hey, guys, come here. I found something. I think it's like a riddle. I just opened the book, and it started glowing.

    "In times of great evil, the child of ruin must find the heart of Haven and summon the door.

    -Sounds like a creepy zeppelin lyric.

    * in the episode "Malice" of STARGATE UNIVERSE (S02E08) there was this:

    - It is amazing. Distinct structure in the background radiation.

    - That sounds like static to me.

    - Were you expecting “Stairway to Heaven”?!

    Songs Which Make You Laugh Out Loud

    in Other Bands / Music

    Posted · Edited by zdr

    That was just so cute! I love the fact that those animals are actually singing Christmas carols like "Deck The Halls" :D So cute! Thanks zdr! :wub:

    Glad you liked it! Now, when I hum that song, I'm doing "lah", like the little dog at 0:16

    I'm sad that Youtube took out a parody to Dyer Maker/Jingle Bells (the voice and instruments were very close to Dyer Maker, but the lyrics went (instead of "oh ....oh oh oh oooo oh") like "ho...ho ho..ho hooo o...dashing through the snooo ow"

    I couldn't find any funny Christmas song, so I'll put this (even if is off topic):

    What The Famous Say About Led Zeppelin

    in Led Zeppelin Master Forum

    Posted

    The Who were bitter over Zeppelin's success? I guess that explains why Roger Daltrey has expressed an interest in working with Page. For the most part these "rivalries" were for the benefit of the press only. They helped move copy and increased record sales. To this day some believe the Stones and the Beatles were at each other's throats when the truth is, they were actually friends. Don't believe everything the press throws at you.

    This thread is full of nasty quotes of The Who or Rolling Stones members about Zep:

    ex. post 137 (by Kaiser)

    Roger Daltrey in Mojo Classic spring 2009: Led Zeppelin & The Story Of 1969:

    "Looking back at the 'rock god' look, Robert was a bit Daltry Mark II, but I was always more jealous of the fact he was so fucking tall."

    Led Zeppelin or Related on YouTube

    in Led Zeppelin Master Forum

    Posted

    Sorry for the repost. :)

    Oh. I didn't meant that. IDK if it was posted before and it doesn't matter - on these big threads, no one expect the other to browse the entire thing. Any Zep related video - bring it on!! :D

    That video, I found it by myself some time ago, I saved it in some YouTube playlist and I watch it from time to time, always enjoying it. That's all. :)

    Songs Which Make You Laugh Out Loud

    in Other Bands / Music

    Posted

    I just choked after watching that! AHHHH! Oh my god!!! :hysterical: :hysterical: The so called funny version of "The Immigrant Song" I posted sounded so professional compared to this! Even the wailing was so funny! Man! I never thought I'll see the day when Chinese-looking blokes actually cover a Zep song! Rock on! :hysterical: :hysterical: And why the fuck is the singer (who has the funniest beard in the world by the way!) singing in some strange language??! Wow! I wonder whether poor Robert has seen this?! AHHH! :hysterical:

    Glad you liked it. :D

    I think they are a Japaneese cover band. And if you get over those "in jest" vocals, you'll see that they are a really good rock band.

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