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You forget how young they all were when they made this which is staggering for such a timeless piece of work. Thanks for this.
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Malcolm Dent said he definitely experienced some strange going-ons there but he lived there for a long time and so did his family.
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Jimmy looked skinny.
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I play Presence a lot. I also really like ITTOD. The trouble with these two albums is that they followed the others, but that doesn't make them bad records. If you combined the two then it would have been truly great. Achilles, Nobody's Fault, Tea For One, In The Evening, Carouselambra, Fool In The Rain, I'm Gonna Crawl.
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On 9/19/2020 at 7:50 AM, porgie66 said:
Absolute rubbish. Baker , a jazz player ??? Gimme a break. Swing is paramount , and Ginger couldn't fucking swing. Jazz player...LOL. Bonham had way more finesse, swing ( ironically ), a beautiful sound, incredible funk and feel, and his hands were way more developed than Ginger's single stroke takka takka takka chops. Bonzo played more interesting, and technically demanding combinations of rudiments and ideas than Baker. I just can't abide this nonsense about Ginger over Bonham. He was a huge influence no doubt, but nowhere near Bonzo's abilities.
I think we all need to defer to George because a) He knows his shit and b) He is a fucking awesome drummer in his own right and people need to watch his Youtube videos as proof. They are flawless replications of Bonzo's drumming.
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5 minutes ago, morningson said:
Cannot wait for this. I hope it is at least a couple of hours long and they cover everything.
When will it be out? Anyone have a clue please?
Just had a quick search and apparently it will feature the music that inspired them, the formation of the group up until the moment when Led Zep II knocked Let It Be off the top of the album charts. So 1968 to 1970.
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Cannot wait for this. I hope it is at least a couple of hours long and they cover everything.
When will it be out? Anyone have a clue please?
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Physical Graffiti
IV
II
Led Zeppelin
Presence
III
Houses of the Holy
In Through The Out Door
Strangely, looking at it and thinking that I play Presence and Physical Graffiti more than than any other.
I really think Presence is a great fucking record but if I had to take one album to a desert island then it's Physical Graffiti, hands down. I think it's probably the best record of all time.
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Got it for Xmas and finished it yesterday. I thought it was very good and provided me with quite a few bits of information I didn't know. Definitely worth a read.
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The one song I keep coming back to from the 02 is For Your Life. I thought that was absolutely brilliant. Page was excellent, Plant loved it and they all had a ball.
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On 12/11/2018 at 5:57 AM, SteveAJones said:
A casual Zep Head perhaps. Charlie Jones/Michael Lee '98 were no John Paul Jones/John Bonham '75. Not even close. So about the 02 show...
Bit harsh on Michael Lee. He wasn't Bonham, but who is? But he was a very, very good drummer. As for Charlie Jones..........................
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I personally think Jimmy Page should sue the hundreds of band that have ripped off his riffs. What goes around, comes around. This lawsuit is bullshit. I could name (at the very least) two hundred songs off the top of my head that have been nicked by various groups over the last 40 years, and if you ask me to, I will.
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I, for one, am grateful to Robert Plant for not agreeing to any more shows. Would anyone in their right mind want Zep to end up like The Stones or The Who? Very old men trading on past glories? The 02 was much needed to cement the legacy of Zeppelin in history after the horror of Live Aid and other subsequent reunions. Plant gets a lot of stick about not wanting to reform the group when it would have been so easy for him to say yes from a purely financial point of view because a Zep tour would have raked in hundreds of millions. And, in any case, Plant's last four years with Led Zeppelin were unbelievably traumatic and tragic. Would you want to revisit that, if that were you?
It's time to give Percy a break. The man broke his voice singing for the best band that ever lived and lost even more on a personal level. I think he is the greatest vocalist and front man of any group that has ever existed. And he was Bonzo's best mate.
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America loves a lawsuit. And then another. And another.
One question though: Stairway was released in 1971. Why did it take them the best part of 40 years to bring it to court? And I'm not being facetious, I'd genuinely like to know.
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13 hours ago, IpMan said:
Not to upset the apple cart here but I place 90% of the blame regarding these issues squarely on the shoulders of Peter Grant. He was the bands manager, it was his job to manage the band and all aspects of the groups business including staffing. Cole was the tour manager who was supposed to manage the day to day of the tour, dealing with promotors, venues, etc. Neither one of these guys were even close to managing anything in a professional capacity after 1975, and I would argue possibly after 1973 knowing some of the boneheaded decisions made in 75'.
Grant did a fantastic job with Zeppelin up to 73' and then started to go off the rails until he jumped the rails and fell off the damn train itself by 77'. When one looks at the 77' tour it is simply amazing it did not implode right after the first leg, it really is a miracle.
I understand loyalty, however Grant needed to be gone after the 75' tour as did Cole, a change in management would have made all the difference IMO. I do not wish to be cold but by 75' Zeppelin were the biggest and they no longer needed someone in the shape Grant (and Cole) were in by 77'. A good manager, a sober and in control manager would have immediately sacked Cole and most of the road crew and started fresh. Then, he / she would have told, not asked Page & Bonham to clean up their act or find another manager. Grant for such a powerful guy, was essentially Jimmy's enabler and the absolute worse guy for the situation by 77'. If I were Robert or Jones, as soon as a piece of shit gangster like Bindon showed up, I would have threatened to quit the band and then I would have sacked Grant and Cole for being quite obviously so fucked up that they could not manage a book of the month club much less a band such as Zeppelin. As a manager it is your sole job to MANAGE, not join the party. Managers must be able to make the tough decisions, to place a band on hiatus if necessary so members can get there shit together so there is a future for the band.
The really weird thing is once Swan Song came into being, Grant should have never left the office as his primary responsibility should have been Swan Song and managing Zeppelin. A manager is not supposed to go on the road with the band, that is the job of the tour manager. The manager maybe shows up for the first and last gigs and that's it. The way Zeppelin were managed once Swan Song came into being was simply wrong, wrong for Zeppelin, wrong for Swan Song.
You know your ass is Tony Montana level out of control when you have a stupid fucking bike airlifted to your house via helicopter. Too bad the damn thing did not fall on Grants head, maybe it would have knocked some sense into him.
All of these are fair points and very true but the entire music industry in the mid 70s was out of control. The amount of drugs and money that was around was insane and the combination of mounds of cocaine and being super rich is deadly. In Grant's defence, this was the new normal. There were no previous eras to look back on and learn from. Everything was big. Record sales, concert attendances, egos, hair, clothes. It was a crazy, crazy time but if I'm honest, it must have been a fabulous time to live through and I'm not sure any decade has been so productive artistically as the 1970s, whether that is musically or film. There was such freedom of expression compared to the very sterile now.
With regards to Bindon, it is pretty indefensible to argue against his hiring by Grant, but in Grant's defence by 1977 the number of death threats and sheer amount of people wanting to get near Zeppelin was vast, as was Grant's paranoia. I remember reading (but I'm not too sure where) that Bindon amongst others was taken on the US tour because he literally would have taken a bullet to protect Robert and Jimmy.
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On 7/29/2018 at 8:45 PM, luvlz2 said:
Enjoyed this recently uploaded on Robert Plant's youtube channel.
Been getting into the Walking Into Clarksdale record a lot lately. There are some really good songs on there, this included. Blue Train is beautiful.
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"Don't tell Mama."
WOW.
Interesting to read that the show was only granted permission to use the songs after they revealed how the songs were going to be used in the story. So I can only assume Jimmy, Jonesy, Percy and the Bonham estate knew who the killer was long before we did!
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5 hours ago, blindwillie127 said:
^ Man, the lyrics to Carouselambra are so ambiguous that the vocals could have been pushed up much higher in the mix and it wouldn't have made a difference in deciphering what these lyrics are about, or not about. I seriously can't imagine Page purposely burying the vocals in order to prevent the listener from hearing what is probably Plant's most vague and ambiguous lyrics ever.
Yes, Plant says "the whole story of LZ in its latter years is in that song", and if thats the case, he certainly disguised it to the point that only he himself could really know what these lyrics were about. The reason I think Plants vocals were placed directly in the mix as opposed to above it is because it is undoubtably the weakest vocal track on the album in relation to the other songs. They're very mysterious, but not really put together that well (much like the song itself) IMHO. I've always viewed Carouselambra as a bold experiment musically. The lyrics for me are always an afterthought when it comes to Zeppelin.
The delivery, attitude and vibe are the only things that 'really' matter. Too much thinking can be a bad thing
Fair points. I think the entire album is not very well produced due to Jimmy's chemical state and that is also the cause of his lack of contribution to the record. I would respectfully disagree about at least some of the lyrics of Carouselambra.
"And powerless the fabled sat, too smug to lift a hand
Toward the foe that threatened from the deep
Who cares to dry the cheeks of those who saddened stand
Adrift upon a sea of futile speech?
And to fall to fate and make the 'status plan'
But no one there had heaven within their reach."and
"Where was your word, where did you go?
Where was your helping, where was your bow? Bow
Bow."and
"I heard the word, I couldn't stay, oh
I couldn't stand it another day, another day
Another day, another day.Touched by the timely coming
Roused from the keeper's sleep
Release the grip, throw down the keyHeld now within the knowing
Rest now within the peace
Take of the fruit, but guard the seedThey had to stay
Held now within the knowing
Rest now within the peace
Take off the fruit, but guard the seed."Those are some pretty unambiguous lyrics. Well, in my eyes anyway. But that's just what I think. It's all subjective depending on how you see them. But I respect your opinion and your point of view on it.
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For my money, Plant's lyrics on Presence and ITTOD are the best he has written. He is really saying a lot on these two albums. Especially ITTOD. All My Love, I'm Gonna Crawl, In The Evening and in particular Carouselambra, which Plant himself said ".....I rue it so much now, because the lyrics on ‘Carouselambra’ were actually about that environment and that situation. The whole story of Led Zeppelin in its latter years is in that song…and I can't hear the words."
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On 4/14/2018 at 2:36 AM, porgie66 said:
Dazed - movie version, first half. I don't own Vistalites but I prefer the sound of these old vintage Ludwig Thermogloss 3 ply drums ala 1970
George's entire Youtube channel is well worth a watch. Absolutely outstanding recreation of Bonzo's greatest hits and thumps. Too many highlights to mention. George is an exceptional drummer in his own right and the best Bonham sound-a-like out there.
Let me put it this way: If I started a band tomorrow and wanted the most versatile, funky, swinging, grooving drummer around, I would call George. He is THAT good.
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5 hours ago, porgie66 said:
Thank you, I appreciate that! I'm in the process of doing a complete 1973 tour style covers. I just uploaded Dazed and Confused . 😓
I watched it last night. You nailed it, right down to the Bonzo head shake in the San Francisco breakdown part! Fantastic!
On a purely personal note, I'd love to see you do The Rover. I think that is a very underrated drumming performance from Bonzo.
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On 3/29/2018 at 12:42 AM, Chicago said:
Those crash and ride cymbals are sizzling on We're Gonna Groove
Great job
I highly recommend all the videos on George's channel. Done with respect and grace and a great, great listen. He is a phenomenal drummer.
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I'm betting a lot of money that not very many pictures from Rodney Biggenheimer's English Disco are in there.
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Jimmy and Keith are very good friends. Shared love of the blues and for a long time, various narcotics. Freddie Sessler was a known fixture on Stones and Zep tours, due to his proclivity to produce weapons grade cocaine at will. If you believe Lori Mattix then they both had their blood changed to get off heroin.
Keith always called Plant and Bonham "a couple of Ernies" rather disparagingly.
Maybe Keith didn't like Bonzo because Jagger came to see Zeppelin in the States and Page and Jagger got in one limo and made Bonzo travel in a separate limo so Bonzo told the driver to pull alongside and pointed a gun at Jagger.
Led Zeppelin Documentary!!
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It's finished, at last. Probably out in about 5 years.
https://variety.com/2021/film/global/led-zeppelin-documentary-bernard-macmahon-1235032389/