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Riff156

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  1. "Tennessee, Tennessee ain't no place I'd rather be."

    Those of us in Tennessee would like to take this opportunity to thank Mr. Hunter for immortalizing us in song. Sallll-uuute! ;)

    Baby, won't you carry meeeeeee....

    Back! to Tennessee....


  2. Nope, everything south of Rt 214, is Largo...like the MVA, PG Community College, everything from there till you get to Upper Marlboro. The north side is Landover...as in the old Landover mall just across Rt 202 from Fed Ex.

    So Rt 202 north of 214 is Landover Rd, and south of 214 is Largo Rd. And I see Cap Ctr Blvd is north of 214.

    Why then was the Cap Ctr always advertised as being in Largo? Or was that my Virginia-side of the Beltway thinking....? :D


  3. Is the old Cap Centre still there? Or did they rebuild it? Will never forget that parking lot and woods as long as I live.

    Nope--they knocked it down. There's a shopping mall there now. Fed Ex Field is very nearby tho--in Landover. (As those of us familiar with the Crap Ctr know, it was actually in Largo, not Landover as most records of those shows state).

    The parking lot was the greatest. Many a fantastic pre-show party in that ol' lot....

    Liberty Bell lot...or Stars and Stripes?


  4. Certainly cant argue as a lifelong fan who saw them on the same night you did 30 yrs ago. But I think that we must reserve some judgement, especailly on Jimmy Page who after all had a bum finger. As for Robert, thats another thing, but I still believe that it is only one night. And you cant judge a band or a sports team or an individual entirely on one performance. So I dont think we can sit here and say that they could never have the magic again like in the 70s. There were songs that were done very well and I believe that if they put more time into it and played more concerts you would get some very memorable ones. After all, we are talking about legends here that are great musicians in every sense. We arent talking about the Stones who rely on Jagger period. We must give them the benefit of the doubt so to speak. Dont we at least owe them that? I hope they do play again. And I believe they will.

    However, let me just add (while the Giants/Skins are in a tv break) that we should grab a beer at the Garden if they do those New York shows we expect! lol!....

    (and really--if they decided to do a couple stadiums, Fed Ex field in Maryland -- right near the old Capital Center-- holds over 90 thousand people for football....I'm just sayin... ;) )


  5. Certainly cant argue as a lifelong fan who saw them on the same night you did 30 yrs ago. But I think that we must reserve some judgement, especailly on Jimmy Page who after all had a bum finger. As for Robert, thats another thing, but I still believe that it is only one night. And you cant judge a band or a sports team or an individual entirely on one performance. So I dont think we can sit here and say that they could never have the magic again like in the 70s. There were songs that were done very well and I believe that if they put more time into it and played more concerts you would get some very memorable ones. After all, we are talking about legends here that are great musicians in every sense. We arent talking about the Stones who rely on Jagger period. We must give them the benefit of the doubt so to speak. Dont we at least owe them that? I hope they do play again. And I believe they will.

    Good points--and you're right on reserving some judgement. But I still think that, while I would love to see them again, I just wouldn't expect them to be what they were then. It's just not going to happen. They'll be good, and do things that'll make us all proud of them, but there's a different magic you can make when you're 28 than when you're 60. And no one is more aware of this than Robert Plant....which is why he will opt out of any Zep tour. A couple shows here or there aren't out of the question, I think, but I just don't believe it'd hold his interest long enough to do more--and on top of that he knows they reeeeally don't do it like they did. At the O2 it was a great "Led Zeppelin Review"...but not the real thing.

    My opinion only....your mileage may vary...


  6. Those who've said he was replicating the studio solo are right--that's exactly what he was trying to do. There towards the end where he seemed to get lost, he was trying to work in the secondary lead you hear behind the main solo. Probably should have left that bit out, but oh well--"A" for effort!


  7. Hi;

    I was wondering if anyone saw or knows anything about the Zeppelin/Who gig at the Merriweather Post Pavillion in Maryland on May 25, 1969 (their second US tour). I know it was their only US gig together, but that's about it.

    Anything would be great. Stories, info, anecdotes, setlist etc etc.

    Thanks.

    A buddy of mine (make that an Older buddy....lol) was there. He doesn't remember a whole lot about it, but he worked at Giant Music at the time & got his tix free. He was a Marshall amp repairman at the time. Merriweather's still a great place, btw...


  8. I haven't listened to a 77 soundboard in years (i had them all on tape) are they as thin as I remember? I'm going to get myself one as soon as I'm done with a few other bits.

    FWIW I had Destroyer, which I think was Seattle. It sounded really thin to me and the performance really shaky. Bootleg hunting was such good fun back then. They were really expensive though...The cool record shop in town used to pirate the bootlegs. They would put the show date, set list, source and quality on a piece of cardboard the size of a record and then you would take that to the counter and give them $10, and two blank tapes and they would copy it for you. That place was great. Long gone now...

    Many boots were named "Destroyer" over the years. The true "first" one was the 28 April 77 audience recording from Cleveland. I bought it on vinyl in 1979. An absolute must-have from the 77 tour--definitely one of the best. The Seattle "Destroyer" you had was actually the 27 April Cleveland soundboard, and you're right--it's not very good. Very thin sounding and the performance is lackluster. This one also was released as Destroyer and credited to the Cleveland show. I have an LP box set called Destroyer III which is one of the Landover shows (the 28th or 30th of May, can't remember which)./...


  9. I have this show too--on vinyl. Haven't listened in a very long time...need to again after Monday night!

    I posted in another thread that it was one friend's recollection (she told me this at the time-the day after the show in fact) that it was a stage effect (flashpot) that missfired while Plant was standing near it which scorched his shirt. ... ?


  10. Elvis played the good ol' Cap Centre the week before Zep came to town. Tix were $15. ;)

    Good to see another Landover alumn here.(I grew up in Bowie) I was at the last show on the 30th. Was really young (my oldest brother took me) was very stoned....and all I really remember was mainly the parking lot scene(The Cap Centre had one of the best parking lot pre show parties of any place I've ever seen ;):P ), and my brother passing out during Moby Dick....just to jump to his feet when the band kicked back in (acting like he never missed a second :lol: ) He also went to all 4 shows(plus the one in 75).

    Overall, the 77 shows were a visual spectacle no boot will ever recreate. When listening today, I HAVE to skip over the drum solos, the guitar noise solos, the lounge piano solos.......it's just too much noodling for me. And all the long solos IMO lent to too much backstage time for Page and Co. to indulge in the Jack Daniels, etc.......not that that was the only reason he had sticky fingers on this tour....he also battled an aching left hand from a previous injury and was suffering symtoms of tendonitis. But being there was entirely different. Not even the dredded Seattle video can really capture what it would have been like to see it from the audience.

    This was definitely a "you had to have been there" tour. Listening now can be painful at times. Thanks God Bonham and Jones were solid as a rock throughout. They MADE the tour and IMO Bonham's coming out of the shadows to often "overplay" his parts was a conscious descision to make up for the lack of stellar playing from Page. Someone had to save the show.

    The Capital Center had the best parking lot! I always tried to park in the corner by the tree line...long walk to the arena, but you could see the cops coming long before they got to you...ha!

    I completely agree with your point about Bonzo's overplaying--and had never thought of it in that way, but I'll bet you're right: it was a conscious decision by him to make up for Jimmy's flaws on that tour. Someone had to save the show indeed. (tho I think Plant was in fine voice for this tour, imo)

    Had to be there....yep, you had to be there...


  11. Ocean

    I was at the Memorial Day (may30th) in Landover. Im 50 now , so I was 20 then. You just answered a question that I have always wondered. I saw the smoke bomb go on stage right at the beiginning of the Song Remains the Same (the opener) and always wandered if it was real or staged. Plant did seem pissed and as I remember he kicked at it and then kept playing. i was afraid they would walk off. does this sound right. Your view was better than mine. I was 25-20 feet back stage. You may recall the backstage seats with speakers facing in back? I also rememher the blue lazer light effect during Kashmir.

    Rick

    Howdy, fellow Capital Center refugees....

    I was at the Wednesday night show (May 25th). Ocean, your description really brought me back to that place. I was in the nosebleed seats, and watched the show through a thick fog of reefer smoke (and cigarettes too...those were the days...) Anyway, it was my first concert. I was 14. I remember Nobody's Fault very well...the dry ice and lasers during No Quarter... the yellow and red lighting for Kashmir...the moving drum riser with flashpots during Bonzo's solo...I remember the way the laser pyramid made the dragon on Jimmy's pants look like it was moving...lol! ... great show--at least in my memory.

    You both are mentioning the explosion on stage at Monday's show. A friend who was there at the time seemed to think it was a flashpot missfire that scorched Plant's shirt. And yes, he was pissed!

    Cheers... B)

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