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Other than the 6 shows from NY and the 6 shows from LA, what dates are considered "peak performance" on this tour?
I've been meaning to listen to more of 1977, other than NY and LA (and also excluding Landover, which I attempted to combine into a single better show).
There are A LOT of shows on this tour, so I'm curious.
My question is only based on the performance of the band, not the sound quality (I can listen to rough audience recordings).
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16 hours ago, June72 said:
Well... personally I'd say the first show is a few miles in front of the second but to each their own.
Well yeah, lol. That's my why the vast majority of it is from the 4th. But large portions of this is from the 11th. Songs that have been mixed with the 4th and 11th:
The Song Remains the Same
Celebration Day
Black Dog
Over the Hills and Far Away
Misty Mountain Hop
Since I've Been Loving You
No Quarter
Hot Dog
The Rain Song
Black Mountain Side
Trampled Under Foot
Stairway to Heaven
Whole Lotta Love
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So I settled the debate of which night is better, August 4th and August 11th. The answer is both!
I took the two nights and merged them into a sort of "Super Knebworth" show. I put countless hours into this.
I think it came out as good as I could make it!
I'll have details of what is played on what night in the video description at a date in the near future.
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I started the project, and currently have the draft version of "The Song Remains the Same" and "Celebration Day" done.
I'm no longer worried about a lack of material for the 11th. The 11th has a lot of material to patch in over the 4th. My biggest worry is the soundboard mix 4th vs 11th. I haven't compared the two later in the concert, but in the beginning, the sound varies:
August 4th: Loud guitar and louder vocals. Bass is nearly in audible. The sub bass frequencies barely even show in the mix. (So far, I've raise the sub bass frequencies, mainly below 90hz.)
August 11th: Quiet guitar and quieter vocals. Loud bass. The mix sounds very odd when fading from the 4th to the 11th (and vice versa). The challenge is trying to bring out the guitar and vocals without the bass and drums. Which is hard to do on a single source (as opposed to a multitrack).
Does anyone have any ideas on how to alleviate some of these issues?
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I: Black Mountain Side
II: Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman)
III: Hats Off to (Roy) Harper
IV: Going to California [I like it, but one has to get picked]
Houses of the Holy: D'yer Mak'er
Physical Graffiti: Boogie With Stu
Presence: Candy Store Rock
In Through the Out Door: Hot Dog
Coda: Poor Tom
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22 minutes ago, Night_flight3030 said:
Well I liked the version of “In the evening” on the DVD officially released better than the one where Jimmy has a cigarette in his mouth while playing. (Hope that helps) I thought ALS on the DVD was awesome too. Would like to see what you do with Sick again, nobody’s fault but mine, trampled underfoot Kashmir and the rain song if they did that one...not sure?
Nobody's Fault, Kashmir, Sick Again, ALS, In the Evening, R&R, and WLL were all on the DVD.
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And yes, I'm well aware these 2 concerts have been overanalyzed on the forums. I just couldn't find anything in regards to "I liked the second verse of song X on the 4th, rather than the 11th"
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[As I've been teasing on my YouTube channel for a while now], I'm making a "Best of Knebworth 1979" in the style of TSRTS and my other "Best of" videos.
Before I really get into the nitty gritty of listening to both concerts and Frankensteining a "best of" version, I'd like to know, in your opinion, what stands out?
Example 1: I think the intro to No Quarter on the 11th is notable for inclusion, due to it's uniqueness.
Example 2: Plant can't hold the note without voice cracking in Since I've Been Loving You, transitioning from the intro to the verses on the 4th, and is notable for exclusion.
Example 3: Maybe a particular song's performance is rough on a particular night, but the solo section sounds superb. Or overall, the performance was great, but the solo was lacking. The other night's superior section of the song will be laced into the original night's.
Songs from Knebworth:
The Song Remains the Same
Celebration Day
Black Dog
Nobody's Fault but Mine
Over the Hills and Far Away
Misty Mountain Hop
Since I've Been Loving You
No Quarter
Ten Years Gone*
Hot Dog
The Rain Song
White Summer
Black Mountain Side
Kashmir
Trampled Under Foot
Sick Again
Achilles Last Stand
Page solo
In the Evening
Stairway to Heaven
Rock and Roll
Whole Lotta Love
Heartbreaker*
Communication Breakdown^
*Only played on the 4th
^Only played on the 11th
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I'm trying to gather shows from all tours and showcase them as a sort of "what if there were 4 to 6 concerts on each deluxe edition release."
I'm having a bit of trouble picking a night for this tour.
This would be attached to Led Zeppelin II. More info on my project here.
Quality of the concert aside, what are your favorites from tour?
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I've finished my pick for UK/Scandinavia 1969.
This is a showcase of the Danish shows March 15 – 17. I've ordered the setlist in a way that was typical to this tour. I was able to cheat a little bit since the Danmarks concert was already on the DVD, so this was a quickie.
More info about which gig was used for each song, etc. is in the video description.
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I've done a concert analysis, for anyone who cares: https://bit.ly/2UxLIqM
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Shows for Led Zeppelin I
I've come down to 6 or 7 shows for the Zep I era:
Scandinavia '68, UK '68: There are no known recordings for these two tours, though I feel these could even be considered "New Yardbirds" era tours (maybe October 25 for the UK tour purely for the fact it was their first show as "Led Zeppelin".)
North America Winter '68-'69: December 30, 1968 – Spokane, WA (for the sole purpose of being the first known recording. If there is anything earlier on this tour, I'd place it here. If something from before this tour exists, I'd just remove this.)
January 23-26, 1969 – Boston, MA
UK/Scandinavia '69: March 15-17 – Danish shows (including Danmarks TV)
North America Spring '69: April 24-27 – San Francisco, CA shows (including both Fillmore West and Winterland Ballroom. A sort of first "How the West Was Won," per se.)
UK Summer '69: June 20 – Newcastle, UK (considering it's the only full length concert available to our ears for this tour, this is my pick. I would consider June 15th in Manchester since they played more songs than usual for this tour, but I would actually have to hear it first before making a judgement call)
North America Summer '69: August 18 (evening) – Toronto, Canada (If I had to choose between Toronto and Texas Pop Festival, I think I'd choose this show, as it feels much more intimate of a show. I feel both this and the Texas concert are both deserving.)
August 31 – Lewisville (Texas Pop Festival), TX
I'm slowly going through each tour, trying to find that one show (or small group of shows within a small area [i.e. How the West Was Won]) per tour (not counting the '75, '77, '79 & '80 tours), and will keep posting for anyone interested. If anyone has any additional insight into my choices, I'd love to hear from you.
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So I've been inspired by the ongoing Metallica Deluxe Edition series (which features the original album, riff tapes, demo tapes, rough mixes, and about 3-6 concerts per album).
This got me thinking: which concerts could go into a Led Zeppelin version of this?
This is what I have so far (official albums or parts of album are in bold, projects I've done that would be included are underlined, general concerts that needs specification are in italics)
Led Zeppelin: Gladsaxe '69, Paris '69, misc. BBC '69
Led Zeppelin II: RAH '70
Led Zeppelin III:
Led Zeppelin IV: BBC '71, Japan '71, UK '71, Australasia '72?, LA '72
Houses of the Holy: Japan '72, UK '72/'73, Euro '73, NYC '73
Physical Graffiti: Chicago '75?, Baton Rouge '75, Seattle '75, Earl's Court '75
Presence: Landover '77, Seattle '77,
In Through the Out Door: Knebworth '79, Berlin '80I'm shooting for 5-7 concerts for LZ1, LZ2, LZ4, HotH; 2-3 for LZ3; 3-5 for P.G. Presence and ITtOD.
Concerts can be conglomerated in multiple nights like How the West Was Won and The Song Remains the Same or like my Earls Court '75 and Landover '77 videos on my YouTube.
Tour eras I'm shooting for:
Led Zeppelin I: Scandinavia '68 to North America Summer '69
Led Zeppelin II: European Autumn '69 to N.A. Spring '70
Led Zeppelin III: Iceland, Bath, & German '70 & N.A. Summer '70
Led Zeppelin IV: UK Spring '71 to N.A. '72
Houses of the Holy: Japan '72 to N.A. '73
Physical Graffiti: N.A. '75 & Earl's Court '75
Presence: North America 1977
In Through the Out Door: Copenhagen 1979 to Europe 1980
(Coda: '85, '88, '95, & '07)
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Eventually I'll make a "www.thegardentapes.co.uk" explanation of the exact changes I've done, and I'll post it on the original post
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This isn't your typical conglomerate list.
I took the time to take the 4 nights of Landover 1977 (May 25, 26, 28, and 30), and Frankenstein'ed them into a TSRTS/HWTWW style bootleg. Most songs feature parts from multiple nights, to provide a literal "best of" (IMO).
What varies from somewhat lackluster to decent concerts, conglomerates into a super show of sorts.
Any thoughts/critiques? Please don't hold back. If you hate parts of it, let me know. Curious as to how I did!
(I also have an Earl's Court 1975 on my channel, but I eventually want to redo that)
What if the Deluxe Edition featured live concerts?
in Led Zeppelin Live
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It's been a while since my last post on this thread but I've done three videos since!
MP3s and FLACs for all my shows are in this link
Live at the Olympia, 1969, Extended from the official Deluxe Edition (Only the 16 minutes of non official audio is in the video link. See link above for downloads.)
Live at the Knebworth Festival, 1979
Live in Copenhagen, 1971 (my newest upload, just uploaded!)
I've got another 41 concerts that will eventually be uploaded, but these are the next 3 I had done.