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Danneman Lundström

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  1. On 12/27/2017 at 2:14 PM, Robert John Paul Page said:

    I just read Mick Wall's book Hammer of the Gods. As a Finn, I obviously read it in Finnish. In the end of the book, there is interviews about the gig in Helsinki 1970. Famous finnish musicians talked about the gig, they praised Zep members and etc. BUT what really made my eyes pop out was that the interviewer said the gig was pro shotted by the Finnish TV company YLE. He said the footage is/was black&white and he don't know if the tapes do still exist. But what I do know is that YLE had a really bad manner to wipe old tapes and use them again... For example, Jimi Hendrix's gig in Helsinki 1967 was wiped. The possibility of pro shotted footage from Helsinki 1970 still exists, it's not confirmed by the Finnish media that the tapes were used again.

    This intrigued me to the extent that I actually wrote to YLE last week. The unfortunate answer is as follows:

     

    unfortunately there was no mention (nor video material) in the Yles archive's TV database of Led Zeppelin's appearance in Helsinki on February 23, 1970.

    With king regards,

    J, Yle Archive Sales

     

  2. Copying some stuff I posted in another thread of mine (More of a production- than a performance blooper):

    "In the original studio version of "The Rain Song" there seems to be something weird going on with how the drums fade into the mix. Listen at the 3:36 mark. The drums come in just a millisecond late and it also seems like it comes in on the "ring" of the cymbal, rather than the initial hit. The fade is very fast which makes for a pretty "off-beat" and unnatural sound.

    On the companion disc that came bundled with the deluxe edition of the Houses of the Holy there's an alternate mix called " The Rain Song - Mix Minus Piano". Have a listen at the same mark around 3:36. Interestingly enough there is no fade/cut whatsoever and one can also hear that Bonzo leads up to the cymbal hit with three  brush strokes on the snare."

    Hard to say if the weird fade on the original version is intentional or not. If I found a similar thing on one of my own songs I would have fixed it.

     

  3. Hi all,

    This is something that I've been thinking about for years but never seen anyone point out. 

    On the original studio version of "The Rain Song" there seems to be something weird going on with how the drums fade into the mix. Listen at the 3:36 mark. The drums come in just a millisecond late and it also seems like it comes in on the "ring" of the cymbal, rather than the initial hit. The fade is very fast which makes for a pretty "off-beat" and unnatural sound.

    On the companion disc that came bundled with the deluxe edition of the Houses of the Holy there's an alternate mix called " The Rain Song - Mix Minus Piano". Have a listen at the same mark around 3:36. Interestingly enough there is no fade/cut whatsoever and one can also hear that Bonzo leads up to the cymbal hit with three  brush strokes on the snare. Sounds good.

    I wonder if something happened when they mixed the original version for the album. Maybe there was some noise on the drum channel before bonzo's cue that had to be cut and maybe someone accidentally removed (ie: recorded silence) too much, removing bonzos strokes and intial hit  as a result.

    Anyways. Might be common knowledge for some of you guys. Thought it might be some interesting  trivia for others. Maybe someone knows what actually happened at the mix-down?

    (Pretty crazy how 1 second of recorded music can make you wonder/investigate & post on a forum)

     

     

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