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Would love a link Stevez! Already have your excellent MSG '77 remaster. Thank you
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9.14.71 has always been my favorite. Robert is so on form, and Jimmy's solo is superb. Love the TSRTS version too.
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Would love the link if you are still sending it. Thanks in advance!:)
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Bit of a long shot maybe but just wondering if anyone has a recording of the 3.20.88 show at the Birmingham Powerhouse, UK? I know that a decent AUD exists somewhere cos I picked it up on cassette at a record fair in '88 but later let it go. I was at this show aged 17 and would love to here it again. It was a magic evening and a fine performance. Scoured the interweb for it but no luck so far. Hope this request is ok and thanks in advance for any responses.
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10 hours ago, SteveZ98 said:
Check your messages for the links.
Thanks so much for your quick response. Looking forward to giving this one a proper listen over the next few days!
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On 1/27/2020 at 8:15 PM, luvlz2 said:
Search 'Hurricane Rocks Cajun'
Thanks for replying. This turned up some links but all of them dead unfortunately.
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I'm am little late to the party but would really appreciate the links if you're still sending them. The sample sounds really special! Thank you.
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Got hold of the 10.1.98 Lakefront Arena, New Orleans show recently. This show has unbelievable energy and incredible performances by both P and P, and the whole band. Just wondering if anyone has FLACs for this and might be kind enough to share? I have a Youtube rip right now and would love an upgrade though can't find one anywhere online. Even MP3s at 320 kbps would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Agreed, can't understand why there isn't more of a buzz about this. An incredible show in quality I never thought was possible for a boot. The whole band are killing it here. This will be my 'go-to' '75 show for a long time to come.
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Uniondale 2/14/75. Great versions of TUF, NQ and STH. Nice solid show. SBD has clear and prominent bass. Can happily listen to JPJ for 3 hours!
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The day of Live Aid stands large in my memory. It happened to be my 15th birthday and a beautiful sunny day in England where I grew up. Main memories where an incredibly good feeling all day; everyone talking about it, watching it, being part of it, and hearing it playing everywhere. The music? Well, as we all know Queen absolutely killed it in their early evening set. Still the perhaps the most audacious and charismatic 20 mins of live music ever.
That day was the first time i saw the members of Led Zeppelin playing. Despite the ragged performance I instantly felt there was something very special about these people and remember being very dismayed when a friend told me their drummer had died 5 years earlier and that this band were no more.
Got hold of a copy of ZepII quite soon after and have been hooked for the last 32 years.
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Thank you Strider. Not since poring over Dave Lewis's books in my youth have I felt any piece of writing take me so far inside the experience of seeing Led Zeppelin live.
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On 26/04/2017 at 7:35 AM, John M said:
I was thinking the other day about the shows that had to be cancelled after Oakland. The venues were enormous for the most part (except Chicago Stadium). They would have played Rich Stadium for an outdoor EVENING show to 72,000. That would have been incredible. The Superdome with about 76,000. And to top if all off August 13 would have been insane - a noon show in the heat and humidity of Philly outdoors at JFK stadium in front of nearly 100,000 fans - the same venue of Live Aid 8 years later. Go back and look at the crowd and listen to the crowd at Live Aid and it gives you some sense of the scope of what might have been on August 13, 1977.
And Jimmy was planning to record some of these shows!
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13 hours ago, Boleskinner said:
Brilliant observation and one which I totally agree with. I often listen/watch the Denmark B&W performance or '73 onwards, but that '72 tour is like you say a no-mans land between the raw early years and the refined aesthetics of mid-period Zep. I actually like that Plants voice is lower and he is not screaming as much from '73 onwards, as it suits the material and adds more emotional depth to his singing.
Another factor is that your brain sub-consciously links the SRTS soundtrack to the footage in the movie. So you have a strong visual reference, which is not there for HTWWW.
Totally agree about preferring the mellower '73 Plant. His vocals on HTWWW are often a tough listen. '77 is my favourite year for him, so much power and command.
Interesting point about the visuals. True, when I hear the TSRTS version of Stairway I do automatically think of the mirrorball, the double-neck, the yellow spotlights etc, and it does enhance the music. Got me wondering how our perception of the HTWWW shows might be different if we had pro-footage to go with them.
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15 hours ago, Dallas Knebs said:
You have great ears. Caveman referred to restricting "tightening" the drums to a ~range of -45L and +45R which does several things. Primarily the drums no longer step on and compete with the ambience. Surgically applied gating to the individual drum tracks added focus and room to the overall sound. Significant bleed outside of this range covered up some of the performance which then allows the listener to hear the boxiness of the vocals. They were tightened up as well for the same reasons.
Additionally the guitar was sweetened by block eq and parallel dynamic eq throughout. Adds clarity and smooths out some of the signal. If anyone is a guitar player, the frequencies targeted were roll off under 180hz -24db slope, cut at 505hz Q6, 632 boost Q8, 1.86hz boost Q6, roll off at 6.32 -12db slope.
Thank you for this technical info. I would be interested to hear your view on the actual result of Caveman's work. To my ears, like I said, HTTTW sounds over-processed and unnatural. Bonzo's drums, for example, sound super-charged in a way that falsifies his actual sound rather than enhances it. For me, I want to hear what Bonzo actually played on those nights as he was a master at getting the sound that he wanted from his kit, rather than a sound-engineer's adjustments decades later, but perhaps I am ignorant of the process of making good live records. Having said that, I actually really like the 2007 TSRTS (apart from the edits of course) as it still sounds natural.
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I'm late to join this thread but for me it's TSRTS hands down. TSRTS has standout versions of NQ, DAC, STH, NQ, WLL, The Ocean, and CD (the pre-2007 version.) In fact, I would say the versions of STH, DAC and NQ are serious contenders for 'greatest ever' versions. That whole July '73 MSG run has a lovely kind of laid-back intensity to it. The band are hot after a long tour but are also tired and aren't trying too hard. Also, by '73 the band had learnt to just relax and let the music breathe, without pushing it too hard. The spacey jam in OTHAFA is a prime example.
As for HTWWW; well, I'm not the biggest fan of '72 Zep anyway. They seemed to be in no-man's-land that year between the ferocity of their ealy years, and the expansion of their mid and later years. Somehow these HTWWW performances just don't do much for me. There is not a single song peformance that is truly one for the ages and there are superior versions to all these songs elsewhere, though the acoustic set is memorable and very nicely captured.
My biggest gripe about HTWWW however, is the sound. Sure, it's clear and punchy, but to my ears, also squashed and artificial. Remember reading an interview with Kevin Shirley in which he disclosed that he'd 'tightened' Bonzo's drum sound a little. Why? Bonzo was a master at tuning his own kit and would, no doubt, have got the exact sound he wanted. The result just sounds annoyingly inorganic and artificial to me. Also, the vocals seem strangely divorced from the rest of the band somehow. There are at least 10 boots I'd rather be listening to than this.
So, that's my 2 cents worth. Still dreaming of a 3CD Earls Court release this side of 2020.............
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Motorhead - What's Wordsworth. A short but sweet early live album, with a very ballsy sound. Fun listen.
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Eric Clapton - Hartford, CT 13.4.1990 - Ferocious (Beano). Killer show with Clapton on astonishing form. By far the best EC playing I've ever heard. I challenge anyone to honestly call Clapton boring after hearing this. (This show is not to be confused with the video of Hartford '90 which was recorded on the previous night and is not nearly as good.)
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13.5.73 Mobile. Damn I'd forgotten what a gem of a show this is. Very listenable SBD too.
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DAC Osaka 29.9.71. Great barreling jam and 'Pennies From Heaven' inserted to great effect. Unusual and very enjoyable version.
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On 13/12/2015 at 9:40 AM, Crimson Avenger said:
Out of interest, does anyone think there are any songs they played better on 23rd, rather than 24th?
STH
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'Another White Summer' 27.6.69. Long long time since I've given this a listen and can't believe how good it is. 1 hour of sheer Zeppelin magic, and nicely recorded by the BBC. This one definitely has a place In my top 5 shows.
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I personally feel Jimmy never got over or forgave the press for the pasting Led Zeppelin 3 received and has held something of a lifelong grudge.
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"10 Ribs And All" I thought was interesting- this was from the Presence sessions? It would have stuck out like a cockroach on a cake on he album, but with some lyrics added it would have been a worthy addition to Coda.
Agreed, sounds very unlikely, sounds much more like an ITTOD outtake to me. The whole feel of the track, and Jimmy's playing in particular, sounds so much more akin to Stockholm '78 than Musicland '75.
Phil Johnstone Dies.
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Sad news. Just played Now and Zen in his honor. Aside from his solid musicianship and strong songwriting my favourite PJ moment must that Kylie Minogue insertion he put into 'Tall Cool One' at Knebworth. Still makes me laugh. RIP Phil.