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Great interview never heard before t4p. Interesting views on Jimmy starting At 20.34 mins Robert says that Jimmy doesn't see an importance to promote own songs, handle own affairs, manage own career so Jimmy doesn't have that freedom that Robert. He says that Jimmy has a cavalier attitude and that his awareness needs to be sharpened so he can see how he's being seen. What is he saying exactly? That Jimmy doesn't handle what affairs and what was Jimmy doing that caused him to have a lack of freedom? Was he saying Jimmy needed to create a better image in the public eye?
I just listened to this interview. IMO, Plant was saying that Page needed to find better outlets than The Firm. He thinks he is a brilliant and very original guitarist with a knack for coming in at odd and interesting angles. He thought Page's playing was great in The Firm concert he attended, but the music itself was unoriginal. He thinks that Page should care more how others view him and his music but added that he never really has. He also wondered if Page would be able to play the music that he (Plant) was doing in his solo albums because this music was more precise in regards to time signature and key while Page's playing tended to be "rambling and Wagnerian".
This was a very illuminating interview, imo. Plant put into words what so many rock fans find special and unique about Page's guitar playing. The "come into a song at odd angles" is the best description of Page's playing that I've read. It also gives us some insight into Page's post-Zeppelin career. Page's guitar ramblings and tendency to come in at odd angles during a song may make it harder for him to find singers and other musicians who are a good fit.
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Sausage and fennel pizza from my favorite pizzeria.
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I have fond memories of dancing to Take Me Home during the mid 1980's. Like you, I never held making more commercial music against Phil Collins or anyone else. Popular music, no matter what the genre, isn't sacrosanct. Professional musicians and singers have to either find a way to earn a living at it or do something else. If this means making music for the masses instead of a small but dedicated following; so be it.
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Blackmore - Hard to describe easily, schooled in all types of music & brought that to lead guitar.
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I kept it pretty simple this year. I carved two jack-o-lanterns and placed tea lights inside them once it began to get dark. I also had a full length poster of a witch on my front door. No party or anything. Just homemade nachos and mulled cider for my honey and I to consume as we watched the ballgame. We took turns handing out candy to neighborhood kids between 7-9 pm. At promptly 9:00 pm, I blew out the tea lights inside the jack-o-lanterns and turned off my porch light.
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Robert Plant
The center photo reminds me of the words a music writer once used to describe the young Plant, "a pre-Raphaelite pretty boy".
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This must be recalled,(pretty sure it was mentioned much earlier), but Paul Rodgers has been labeled by
many as hard to deal with, compromise, even a bit of a bully. Despite Page's leadership in Zep, no one in
the band EVER labeled him even near a dictator. There are certain interviews where Page pretty clearly
states that he wanted to take Paul's voice and push it into unusual areas. Then he kind of said that he
tried as far as he could but the project just ran it's course. I think the big problem was that Jimmy is
not a natural leader and ended up giving in or letting Paul run things too much. In Zep the others
despite their egos recognized Jimmy's vision and genius and let him use his excellent judgement.
It's great that some fans still enjoy the Firm's music but after Jimmy didn't have any fond memories.s
Page didn't have Peter Grant to back him up in The Firm. Also, Robert Plant and Paul Rodgers were at different stages in their respective careers when they began working with Page. Rodgers was already a star when he and Page started The Firm. He and Page were on an equal footing so he was less inclined to defer to him.
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Ritz crackers in the "Everything" flavor with pimento cheese spread.
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More from touring.
I wonder what JPJ was doing in the last photo? It appears to have been taken during a concert, yet he's not playing the bass or any other instrument.
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The last Phil Collins interview I read, he came across as very depressed because of the chronic wrist pain he was dealing with. I'm glad to read that he is in a better place now. Congratulations to Jason Bonham for landing such a prestigious gig.
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Lovely glow.
Why do you think we females like romantic candle lit dinners? We know nothing flatters a woman like candle light.
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Cory Wells, co-founder and former lead singer of Three Dog Night, died at his home on October 20. His family confirmed that he was battling myeloma and died from a related infection. He is survived by his wife, two daughters and five grandchildren. Wells was 74 year old.
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RIP Maureen O'Hara,...
I assumed she had died a long time ago until I read her obituary in the Sunday newspaper. She played one of cinema's iconic "spunky females" in The Quiet Man.
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This is part of an interview a wrestling manager did for Sports Illustrated magazine. His name is Paul Heyman of WWE.
On his favorite non-wrestling moment at Madison Square Garden: "I was a kid and I was a photographer and it's the moment I learned what being a rock star, which is what anyone who performs at MSG is in some way a frustrated rock star because we all want that moment when you're just standing there doing absolutely nothing and the crowd worships you like the God that you intend to be. And because I had a press pass for what was then WWWF. I got a press pass for Led Zeppelin. They came out for their second encore. They had held back Stairway to Heaven all night long. And when Robert Plant would ask the crowd what they wanted to hear ... that was the song people wanted to hear. So they came out for their second encore. And Jimmy Page stepped up, the lights went dark, they hit the spotlight on Page and he just hit the opening couple chords to Stairway to Heaven and the place erupted. Even as I'm telling you this now, I'm covered in goose bumps. It tingled my spine. And the place erupted in an explosion like the Knicks just won the championship. And Jimmy Page just stopped and looked up and had the most s**t-eating grin on his face and he knew he owned them. And for three or four minutes - but it seemed like an hour - they didn't play. They didn't sing. They just soaked in the enormity of the response and just stood there and let it come to them. And then they played the song. And at that moment, I just said to myself, "wow. that's what it's like. that's the moment everyone dreams about. That right there is what you work towards and for."
Did Mr. Heyman mention the year?
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I really like those Deep Purple albums from the 70's, the problem is they had a rotating circle of band members who just came and went. It would have been really cool if John Lord, David Coverdale, and Ritchie Blackmore could have kept it together for a decade. I really love Ritchie Blackmore's playing, but he was never meant to be an artist who could flourish in a band, moody for whatever reason - sort of reminds me of Jeff Beck in some ways.
I think you're right about Blackmore. He's an amazing talent but, by all accounts, he is very difficult to work with. The one thing Rod Evans, Ian Gillan, John Glover, David Coverdale, Glenn Hughes and Ronnie James Dio all have in common is that they clashed with him.
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Thousands and thousands of hours of daily practice. Something Jimmy Page used to do but hasn't since about 1975, I reckon.
Posters who attended the Page/Plant concerts in 1998 always mention how well Page played at these gigs. Wouldn't he need to practice a lot to play as well as he did?
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lemon drops and popcorn
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A chicken sandwich on whole wheat,
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That's another thing that's frustrating - at least I think it would be. How many ideas are beingkept from coming to life because Jimmy can't find someone to collaborate with, or like you
said D D execute it properly? The lack of new material can't be because the well has gone dry.
I bet the artistic mind in Page can envision some real musical gems. The unknown is keeping
him from laying it down and being heard.
I will say one thing I scratch my head at unrelated to the things being brought up in this
thread. Plant has no plans on reuniting for a L Z reunion. Ok fine Percy I'll accept that. I'll
take my ball and go home. But Robert has L Z songs listed as part of his set lists. Songs that
HELLOOOO Jimmy could play as a surprise guest guitarist. Can you imagine Plant doing a
concert and announcing to the audience Jimmy Page is going lend a hand with this one. Out
walks Page and he goes into a one of his famous Jimmy Page riffs from a well known Zeppelin
song. Ack, it's puzzling!! I know Robert said he didn't want to be a juke box like the Stones playing
the ol' hits -- and that excuse works for me IF L Z songs were NOT part of his set list. But arghhhh
Robert that's not the case.
Oh my haha this thread is all over the place. It has a mind of it's own.People who know more about guitar playing than I have commented that Page often attempted stuff that was at the very edge of his technical ability as a guitarist during LZ's heyday. When it worked it was thrilling to see and hear. When it didn't he could sound like a guitar novice. If your stock in trade as a guitarist is your ability to "push the envelope" what happens when slowing reflexes and the other physical decline that comes with aging makes it more difficult for you to pull this off?
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I think a lot of people in this thread are making some strong solid points -- and to be honest I wish
I disagreed with more of you. We're talking about how Jimmy Page's dependencies have had a
negative impact on his confidence in later years. Sigh....
I know the era of Jimmy live on a stage and/or releasing a new solo album is bleak. Why do we suppose
Jimmy says he's wants to be seen performing again live, or making a solo album? He said this all summer
promoting the Led Zeppelin re-masters -- yet nothing comes to fruition. I don't believe it's to keep people
interested in him career wise. I'm a fan of his and like hearing what he's up to whether about his music, or
the theatre project for addicts. Jimmy's got me locked up as a fan whether he performs or not.
When it comes to Jimmy playing and writing; I think "wanting to" and "able to" are indeed two different things.
I believe Jimmy wants to stand on a stage and play guitar, but something is preventing him. Something he may
not want to say to the public. Something he perhaps hasn't come to terms with yet. I don't believe Jimmy Page
in his heart wants to hang up his guitar. His head though could be conflicting that.
For some, the addictions long after they've been defeated still haunt the person psychologically.
Plant's 1985 Swedish interview may hold a clue. I'm also reminded of a quote from one of the guitarists Plant worked with early in his solo career. The guitarist remarked that after listening to all of Led Zeppelin's catalog he thought that Jimmy Page's brain was often ahead of his fingers. Perhaps this is the story of Page's career since he founded Led Zeppelin; great musical ideas that he can't always execute.
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...Plant basically says that his music was very precise and he didn't think it would suit Page's Wagnerian, cavalier approach...
This. Plant likes to have every note, beat and intonation worked out before he steps into a recording studio. In Plant's opinion,Page focuses on the sonic "big picture" he is trying to construct instead of musical details like time signature. It interests me that Plant perceived that he and Page's preferred working styles differed so much by 1985. Had he always felt this way or did he only realize after beginning his solo career that he prefers more formal structure? Are his words "Wagnerian, cavalier approach" a polite way of saying that while Page has great musical ideas his technical chops are lacking?
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Returned some books to the library.
Did two loads of laundry.
Packed away summer clothing and unpacked fall clothing.
Stopped by a local church fish fry to buy my dinner.
Took a nice long walk in my favorite park.
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Interesting stuff. It appears The Yardbirds relied upon Page's guitar wizardry to carry their concerts when Keith Relf's voice was under the weather. I'd love to know exactly what the semi-pornographic drawings were on the back of Page's guitar. Did he draw them of were they already there when Jeff Beck gave him that guitar?
Very interesting indeed. Page turned down an invitation to party for both himself and the band. How things would change within a few years! Also, I didn't know that Jim McCarty sang well enough to relieve Keith Relf on lead vocals. I should read up on his post-Yardbirds career. Did this concert take place before Page painted the fire breathing dragon on the front of his Telecaster?
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If that's true, it's a measure of how far the Page-Plant relationship had swung from 1968-1995. Page, once the leader of the band and musical visionary, was slapped by the lead singer. It's hard to take.
It's unfortunate that it came to that but it can be very frustrating to deal with an alcoholic. I haven't read anything that suggests that Robert Plant is a violent man so I'm guessing that Page being drunk at that particular time must have really pushed Plant's buttons. I've never been in a band. Maybe it's not uncommon for band mates to come to blows when emotions run high. OTOH, maybe it's a sign that a musical partnership has run its course.
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Leftover Italian wedding soup
Garlic bread
a Golden Delicious apple for dessert