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It's me or Jimmy does the backs here ? That would make my day (and sens).
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No quarter 1977/06/14
The intro of the solo is crazy.
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1973/06/07 Heartbreaker
Jimmy use the wah pedal during the solo !
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September 3, 1971
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I thought it was funny...at the time.
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Hi,
But, as this is the Live Section, the question is meant for the live versions of "Stairway to Heaven" and I'll try to come up with one. Sue is correct...for the vocals go early, for the guitar solo go 1973 and beyond.
In a way, the development of the song in concert mirrors "Over the Hills and Far Away". Both songs start their concert life with Plant singing the original melody with feeling and conviction, but with Page still in the process of figuring out how to play the solo live. By the time Page comes to a decision about the structure and sound for the solo...1973 for Stairway, 1975 for OTHAFA...
I don't think that early versions are "indefinite", well, if it's your are saying. In my opinion, no quality issue, but rather for the sake of change. This leaves us, as listeners, a much broader vision. Except perhaps the case the voice of robert plant, I think all years are equal in the sense that none of them can boast unanimous. Matter of taste : here the expression makes sense because each year conceals originality adapted to the tastes of each. The first of them: the solo.
"but with Page still in the process of figuring out how to play the solo live"
Well you see, I think the solos that sound the best are those of 1971. I did say that sound better, by that I mean the best solos performed in a technical point of view , not to mention melodic aspect wich, in this year, reaches the same heights than later years, but in a different light.
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How Many More Times - Montreux - 3/7/70
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Montreux 3/12/70 (correct me if that's not exact date lol) and BCC are my two favorites, the one from Southampton 73' is pretty good IMO it's just a very unique sound for the song followed directly by Communication Breakdown, what's great way to end a show!?
3/07/70
And it is also my favorite. The solo is daunting , what trip!
By the way, here are my top 5 (with a large coefficient reserved for solos, major attractions of this piece:
1 ) Montreux . No comment.
2) Paris 69: Key date in my opinion. This is the moment of artistic transition which increased the group in the sphere of lyricism. Led Zeppelin sphere exactly. Note the striking contrast between the nervousness that characterizes the tour " filmore " and , more generally, throughout the summer tour, and the sweet poetry which showed Jimmy in this HMMT . This version is simply magical , the construction of the solo gives pride to licks that we find later in 70 . The story began .
3) Filmore 69 (26 and 27 April) : other sound ( almost metallic ) , another approach, another dynamic may be , but damn it's moving! As I said earlier, this is nervous , it smells Led Zep 2 . Special mention for the bow.
4)Hamburg 11.03.1970 : Using the wah wah for the solo: something rare enough to be underlined. In line with montreux (4 days apart) , perhaps a bit more aggresive
5)Boston 28/05/1969 : " fuzz sound ", got to love it. Beautiful setting "for your love" . Very energetic .
My English is very limited, hard to send emotions to anyone reading this message. Yet this is not what is missing when I listen to this track !
Cheers.
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Communication Breakdown. Hiroshima 1971.
One of the heaviest riff at the beginning.
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"The Evergreen" Seattle Centre Coliseum 19/06/1972. Dug out my old copy of this classic show when the boys were on top form. I defy anyone to tell me when Page nails the solo in Heartbreaker in any other show like this one. Brilliant
for the reference.
The all show is fantastic, he contains probably the best Dazed : Jimmy is on fire, a riff machine. Jones/Bonzo are insane too. Proof that band gived for "us" 30% of his potential:
For Heartbreaker (exept this one) : Inglewood 71 (both nights.). MSG 71 (favourite concert ) Htwww. Baltimore 1973 (very bad quality :/) But matter of taste. What to observe is that this piece is above all a matter of technique, or Jimmy reaches its peak at this time : 71 and 1/2/72. Great combination beetwen Felling and skills (gitf for haters)
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I totally forgot about Montreux, Blueberry Hill, and Hamburg. Earl's Court is good too, but that's an easy pick for '75.
I'll admit, the guitar solo Jimmy Page does in Houston is pretty awesome. Again, it hard for me to determine one best live performance. I picked Seattle because of Achilles Last Stand, Kashmir, and the improvisation in Bron-Y-Aur. It just stuck out for me more.
I talk about the second night of Earl's Court (the 18th) and, in my opinion, its not an easy pick. I even think it's one of the most underrated show ever.
For the rest, especially Seattle, I have difficulty to understand your enthusiasm. Not to mention the performance, I think the sound of this concert is awful. The instruments sound like in a shoe box ! The only point on which I can reach you is the acoustic set : you're right, bron y aur sounds heavy.
Otherwise, I guarantee you can find better performance of other titles that you mention : Achilles on June 22/23 ; Kashmir on June 21 or June 11.
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Best live performance. Oh geez. That's hard if I really, really had to pick I would have to pick several from each year they toured hahaha.
Fillmore West & Boston Tea Party for 1969
Royal Albert Hall & Vancouver for 1970 : listens to Strider above , Montreux outclass both of them ! Hambourg and Blueberry hill too.
Osaka & Orlando for 1971
LA & Long Beach for 1972
Southampton & New York for 1973
Brussels & L.A for 1975 : I would add the seconds nights of Seattle and Earls court.
Seattle, L.A., & Houston for 1977Copenhagen & Knebworth for 1979
Zürich & Berlin for 1980
If I had to pick one out all of those for the very best. Yeah, I would have to say Seattle '77 (What ??). To me it had that "We are Zeppelin, this is what we sound like, here we are" vibe. The Earl's Court gig would have to follow that. No one can deny that In My Time of Dying performance or Robert's dream of becoming a Jamaican.
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Of course, the 29th is the best night, especially because Thank you, Celebration day, The ocean and Stairway (Imo the best solo ever).
So is Jimmy Page a 'sloppy' player?
in Led Zeppelin Newbies
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So true. Jimmy said something like that, about how type of player he is : "I'm not technicly the best, but when i'm on stage i go for it..."
I will add that his sloppy phrasing often give birth to licks came from nowhere, which can only be played like this.