SilverVishnu
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36 minutes ago, pluribus said:
There is a very easy way to invalidate the theory that bootlegs ruin the prospect of selling an official release. Just look at the recent Cream boxset covering the 1968 Farewell tour. Empress Valley had released the exact same shows, in a near identical boxset a few years ago, and it was torrented widely. Empress Valley still makes the box with different cover art versions too. Yet the official release comes out and it sells out literally everywhere. Rave reviews on Hoffman Forum and in official publications online. People are literally just now discovering how amazing Cream were live, even though they’ve had live albums out for 50 years. The best part is that it turns out that the Empress Valley box used the same recordings as the official release: transfers of the cassette mix downs, because the masters were lost in the big fire. Comparing the two releases, I actually PREFER the Empress Valley box, because they left the recordings pretty much alone, whereas the official release had to do some EQ to make them ready for official release.
This ultra high-fidelity and polished live album is a thing of the past. With how much content is streamed from every live festival these days, people are well aware of the trade offs in sound to get to hear a REAL live show, warts and all. Look at the 70s Van Halen soundboards that they’ve been putting out on vinyl. Or the raw soundboards that the White Stripes have been putting on nugs.net Bob Dylan, The Stones, Black Sabbath...big name bands have released shows sourced from lowly soundboard tapes. No multi-tracks required.
Great comment. Tempted to post it in letter form to Tower House! I wonder if Mr Page reads his mail or if it gets redirected / triaged first.
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38 minutes ago, SteveZ98 said:
And for a bit of perspective on how productive they were, all of the music we know and love from their time with Bonzo was created in about the same amount of time as the period between the 2007 show and today.
Yeah I was only thinking today how 2007 to now is the longest time ever without the 3 of them playing together. Even longer than the 1995 to 2007 period. I wish I was born in the late 40s, I have nostalgia for a period I never even experienced, ha!
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I found this upload yesterday, it's a decent candid interview. Better than most.
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No clue. The thread over at RO isn't much more enlightening. My excitement for this, unless it includes known to exist but unreleased footage like Central Park '69, is really waning.
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I only came here to make the unhelpful contribution that I find the whole thing completely unwatchable due to the camera cuts every second or two. And virtually no JPJ footage. It's so bad I can't watch the vast majority of it. Who on earth sanctioned such horrid editing?!
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Would love to see full length uploads at YouTube. I remember someone years ago manually colourised some early B&W TV footage - think it was the 30min Denmark clip - and AFAIK it took them months to do a minute or two frame by frame and it never got completed. Though the small segment that was shared was superb - much more consistent than AI alone.
In fact the Denmark clip would definitely be the best candidate for a full length upload. I imagine some manual overview of the frames that AI didn't quite get right wouldn't be nearly as taxing as it would have been a few years ago. In the absence of any real exciting news for the 50th anniversary (apart from something which might be *incredible* coming to LedZepFilm's YT channel on the 21st) this would be pretty cool to watch.
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Funny, I found out the other week I live next door to one of Peter Grant's residences in Eastbourne in his last few years. He used to have his black Range Rover plate LZ1, and the Porsche plate BAD1 (Bad Company) on the drive.
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1973-07-29 as per
Flags at half mast - see
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Are there any photos of a young Peter Grant? Or any screenshots from films he was in? I can't find anything pre 1967.
Edit: I'm reading Bring it on Home, the Grant biography by Mark Blake. Grant is in 1962's Lolita: "Grant’s appearance in Lolita lasts for just a few seconds, and he’s only glimpsed in profile. However, he’s visible, wearing a white jacket and sauntering through a hotel lobby, as actor Peter Sellers and actress Sue Lyons lean across the check-in desk." The film is on YouTube if anyone can pinpoint the time Grant appears.
Also, "In an episode titled “The Money,” actor Sid James, playing a Soho con man, hosts a lottery to win £250. Grant appeared in a nonspeaking role as one of the ticket holders."
I believe Grant's appearance in Citizen James is at 20:22 here but I'm not certain it's him:
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25 minutes ago, hindenburg6880 said:
The very, very first rehearsal at Gerrard Street 68
This allegedly was at least recorded.
From book Trampled Under Foot by Barney Hoskyns:
"ROBERT PLANT I didn’t even know what we had. I was nineteen when I heard the tapes of our first rehearsal. I mean, it really wasn’t a pretty thing. It wasn’t supposed to be a pretty thing. It was just an unleashing of energy. But it felt like it was something I’d always wanted."
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On 8/8/2018 at 1:19 PM, zeplz71 said:
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This looks like Vic, the Zeppelin geek in Almost Famous. He was at the Plaza in the film too, hah!
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12 hours ago, Mithril46 said:
I mean, the Ocean from the 3 cd HTWWW Jimmy completely replaced the guitar solo. I have the two boots which comprise the 3 cd set, it is not a patched up solo, Page replaced the original solo, and it sounds rather strange because Jimmy never sounded like that in 72', so obviously he went into the studio and banged out the replaced solo, which is puzzling because the original cranks, although there are some fidelity problems. Whatever.
Incorrect. HTWWW The Ocean is the unaltered song, including the guitar solo, from 25th June 1972.
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Superb, thank you. Your posts here and on RO have been a stupendous source of information and entertainment for the half of my life (!) I've been LZ obsessed. We joined this forum on the same day, was that when it first started?
Just been reading through a few pages of your Mysteries thread, which I either missed years ago or forgot about. Someone mentioned you were compiling a book or something? This was 12 years ago. Your archive, knowledge and enthusiasm would surely put you in a great place to publish some sort of project in one place (you could write a book just with your forum posts!).
Having recently read HOTG and STH for the first time I can also say I admire your balanced input and restraint on the more sleazy and salacious aspects of the band. Something that stood out in STH to me, showing how much Cole has exaggerated, was when he writes about slamming the briefcase of money shut in Amsterdam. This incident is televised, and in his book he claims that the promotor's fingers got caught in the briefcase, causing a big outburst. (The TV recording just shows him slamming the thing shut and them carrying on as normal). I mean we knew already so much in that book is either blown out of proportion or complete crap, but why lie about something that was recorded and available to the public? Having said that, Cole was at the O2 and AFAIK has never publicly apologised for or corrected his written account. I'd be interested if you know any specifics about the band members seemingly having forgiven Cole. Anyway I'm rambling, mainly just wanted to thank you for your contributions to recording the band's legacy.
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Mega bump (and my first post in over 11 years) - Steve, fantastic article. I love stuff like this that paints a picture of the band offstage. Any more articles of a similar vein by Phillip Rauls or others?
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I also recal this exchange, though I can't remember which show... I want to say 1970.09.04 LA Forum, but could be wrong.. anyways.
Robert Plant (to audience): "You don't know how difficult it is to tune a guitar in front of thousands of screaming people."
Jimmy Page (to Plant): "You don't, either."
This is from Blueberry Hill?
Can anyone confirm what show this plantation is from?
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1975-05-25. I think it goes something like this:
Plant: Are you loose?!
Bonzo: Yes, yes thank you!
Plant: Christ, we know you're loose Bonzo. Loose is not the word. Did you know he had diarrhea all throughout the last American tour? *crowd laughs* He's got the only drum stool in the world which is a commode. *crowd and Bonzo laughs*
The previous night has Plant a little more, um, lucid, and has some pretty nice commentary as well.
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Only read the first page of this one, but Rob definitely sings both the lines "Oh my Jesus" and "Oh Georgina" in the song. No other lines, just those 2.
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as far as I know, the February 12 performance was the first really strong one on the tour.
Feb 8th, bitch.
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Have heard of this gig before. Some setlist info and photos (which I know do exist) would be great.
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where can i find that mate?
It was recently posted on Tapecity I think. Might have been TTD though. I'd also bet it's floating around Dime somewhere.
1. From a show in 1971, Japan..."Bonzo gone bye, bye. Bonzo gone for bath with Geisha, yes".
That's the 1971-09-29 Osaka show. I heard there was some tension between Plant and Bonzo at this time and Plant ended up hitting Bonham backstage. Can anyone (Mr. SteveAJones) expand on this?
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The Sun = bullshit.
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You've posted some great photos Steve. Never seen these before.
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Led Zeppelin and his backing band never sang 'Dream On'
Mick Hinton
in Led Zeppelin Newbies
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Hey cool thread, Dan thanks for popping in. My best thoughts with you today for Father's Day and tomorrow.
Would you be willing to share any stories or answer a few questions if we organised a group Q&A? I understand you'd only be going on memories of stories that may have been passed down to you. There are certainly a handful of good anecdotes I can think of involving your Dad, many of them told differently each time I come across them. Would be fantastic to hear anything you might like to share.