Big Klu
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im gonna hit up the LA show in april. it would be epic if glenn showed since he did for the new york area shows. even if he dosent, its still gonna be kickass....i mean cmon, they're playing saints in hell, didnt know rob still had it in him.
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It is very close tie for me who My favorite Heavy Metal band is. Judas Priest or Iron Maiden.
Ha.
Back when I was getting hardcore into older music I asked my dad (who pretty much saw everyone who was great from '68-'78) about them and he said "they sucked". Years later when I finally got into them*, and I slipped some of their tunes in his mp3 player and he told me he liked the stuff...and he asked who are they? I told him it was maiden and priest, and I was like WTHell, you said you didn't like them years ago?
He says "like them? I never heard them! i thought they were a religious band and a chick band!
*thanks to metallica covering bits of their tunes (i was collecting their live bootlegs). hilariously, it was dad who converted me to metallica (took the dive cause he liked the 'Justice' album cover)!
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Konnichiwa! or should I say Ohayo gozaimasu!
I ignored 2 years of HS Spanish and then went with ENG1B Lit and Composition...
...just so I could stare blankly to comments such as these.
Thus, I am truly a gaijin.
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....Samurai Bun!
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Hiya Klu... Please tell me you didn't cut those long locks.
I'd be lying if I said no.........so, no.
..so whatthe hell are you saing no to...isometric mudpuddles or floating chicken mcnuggets?
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Still no posters on your walls, eh? Yeah, our Jazz rose and fell, yet again.
Nice pic.
Rent reduction for not adding any new nail holes to the premises!
I'd feel sorry for the Jazz.....but not as long as their name is 'the jazz', while their logo is a freaking mountain.
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Bad picture.... good Laker solidarity.
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I know I'm threadshitting at this point, but another board had this...totally cosmic timing:
The scene: a top recording studio in London in the early 80's. My buddy is getting one of his first big engineering assignments - Asia's second album. His job? Setting up and doing the engineering prep for the legendary Carl Palmer, drummer for ELP, Asia, etc.My friend showed up for work hours early and used all of that time tuning Carl's kit, placing mic's, checking all the effects associated with each mic - you name it. And since Carl has a kit the size of, well, a huge freakin' drum kit, my friend had to crawl underneath a few rack toms to get in and out, so this was a physical, hectic, stressful situation for our first-time engineer. But it was worth it because he was doing it for the legendary Carl Palmer.
After all this, the Producer (my buddy's boss on the project) comes in, sees all the excruciating work my friend has done on this, his first job, and kind of snickers to himself, but at the time my buddy doesn't put 2 + 2 together. They both remain up in the control booth, finalizing settings for that day's recording. Later, the legendary Carl Palmer comes in, blithely gets behind the kit (not sure how he did it blithely, but my friend assures me he looked smooth), picks up the sticks and....proceeds to rip off a drum fill that sounds like a cat falling into a stack of cookware. My friend looks up at his Producer, who says something along the lines of "well, that pretty much shatters your fantasies, don'it?"
Apparently it was common knowledge that Carl couldn't keep proper time and was all about the fills -- which couldn't sound great if you can't keep time!- nice time to tell my friend! Weeks later in the session, my buddy was playing the kit to check a mic set-up he had changed and Geoff Downes and Steve Howe both came in and tried offer my buddy the job playing drums since they found Palmer's timekeeping so bad. I doubt they were serious, but it was a way to get under the legendary Carl Palmer's skin - and there was so much infighting that they couldn't pass up the chance...
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Their keyboard tones sounded like ass, the lyrics were blargh, and the drummer was too fill-happy. Other than that, they were pretty rockin!!
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Echo & The Bunnymen - Show of Strength
stupid name, great band
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Opeth is awesome band.
Unfortunately the cookiemonster singer fucks up the music.
There needs to be a formal term for this singing issue.....maybe 'The Corgan/Mustaine Syndrome'.
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AND.....The Kinks are the guys who "invented" heavy metal (????!) with "You really got me"...(legend has it!)!!!
They invented the term 'best song with the worst solo ever'.
...or I invented it, and they inspired it. yea.
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The bigger than Jesus comment occurred in the Summer of 1966. Most of the furor over that event didn't come from the media, but from Southern Baptists in the Bible belt. The media rode it because it was Beatles news. Magical Mystery Tour wasn't aired until the Christmas Holidays of '67....and the media wouldn't have given the time of day to any other artist that tried to pull that off, except Elvis.
It was the media that broke the story and rode it. Thats their nature. Strange you'd absolve the media of furorcism when they created and sustained the furorosity. Every press conference on the 66 tour they elicited an obligatory 'john semi-apology'.
Not at all. In fact, I think the Rooftop Sessions is more evidence for my point than yours. If they would have gone on tour with a setlist consisting of Get Back, I've Got a Feeling, Dig a Pony, and other stuff in the same vein, I'm betting the average Beatle fan boy would have been extremely disappointed. Those songs were written with the intent of playing them live. They were trying to return and recapture something that was already gone. Seminal ? Maybe for you, but not me.Heh?
The plan was to play the Get Back stuff live and record that one performance as the album; they would not have made it a tour setlist. Never mind that it would be ridiculous to tour live with a setlist identical to a new live album, or that bands virtually never tour with only new material, but that the Beatles wouldn't tour playing stuff from the best career discography of all time would never happen.
I think the whole concept of "The Summer of Love" was established before The Beatles joined the party. I'm not asserting that The Beatles had no influence, but rather in retrospect, are given far too much credit.....especially for that. Yes, the "All You Need is Love" session is a beautiful thing....but they would have never been able to pull that off if they didn't have the media in their back pocket. What other group was offered/given that kind of air time ? The Beatles had frickin cartoons !! The Monterey Pop Festival probably didn't even make the evening news.The BBC asked them to represent Britain and they delivered. If it was a shit song, then you could say they were overrated. Of course they weren't because they delivered. As for hippiedom, I didnt say they invented flower power....it was you said "others shot past them as far as relevance by '67". Well...apparently not, since you seem to indicate they were hippie bandwagoners....in '67(!).
I think "the win" falls under personal taste. I agree that Zep was like The Beatles....a fifth element as a whole that was larger than the individual. By the way, I think McCartney's first solo album sucks.....yet it sold millions anyway. "Imagine" is great, but the album itself is still a waste of time for me. Again, personal taste.I dont have any solo albums for either Zep or the Beatles...a smattering of mp3s does me fine. McCartneys album sold big because he basically broke up the band with/for it. The self-interview and such.
Exactly what makes Sgt. Pepper a concept album ? Besides the title track which is featured at the beginning and the end.....which tunes on the album support the concept ? Most bands didn't have the cash support The Beatles did to even attempt anything close recording quality wise. As an example, "I Can See For Miles" cost more to produce than the whole rest of the tracks on "Sell-Out".I think Pepper is the weakest of the post Rubber Soul era...so...no argument here. Pink Floyd wasn't rolling in dough and 'Piper' is comparable. Beach Boys too. What most bands didn't have was George Martin.
I'm not claiming The Beatles weren't great songwriters, that they weren't a great band, that they weren't influential. I'm claiming that the media showered them with a lot of credit they just didn't deserve. This was especially true from '67 onward, because the media basically missed the boat on what everyone else was doing. The Beatles had become totally embraced by the mainstream entertainment media. The money machine was set up and churning, and it was just as much in the their interest to keep The myth alive. Isn't that what Lennon was eventually revolting against ?At least we agree on Yoko Romo and the "mother" issues.
What credit did the media give to them that they didn't deserve? That Apple Corps was a well run business ?
I were Lennon at that point, had done practically everything and everyone, conquered my chosen field, was rich for life, all before turning 30, and I'd probably chill out and go freaky from 70-75 too.
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I can cut The Beatles all kind of slack as far as influence up to about 1966. Once the Summer of '67 came around, I think you can make a good argument that they were overrated media darlings to a certain extent. How a band that never played live after 1966 could be called the best rock and roll band ever is beyond me. Best pop songwriters ? Ok....I can buy that. Best rock and roll band ? Sorry....not when your influence as far as live performance was virtually zero.
ok...I must now lay down the whoopass.
The beatles werent overrated in '67. The magical mystery tour film bombed in Britain and the bigger than jesus comment didnt go over well in the US.
As for the live element.....whatthefuckingfuck?
Ed Sullivan and the rooftop gig are so obscenely seminal, you must have taken them for granted. I suppose you meant LA forum or boston garden bootleg like shit. ANyone who has beatle boots knows you can't hear a damn thing cause of the chicks. Marshall stacks were coming in just as they stopped touring. Thats not their fault.
They wrote candy-ass pop songs until Dylan challenged them. IMO, The Byrds, Buffalo Springfield, Hendrix, Cream, and others shot past them as far as relevance by '67. The Moody Blues beat Sgt. Peppers with "Days of Future Passed". The Stones, after chasing The Beatles with Satanic Majesties Request" went their own way and showed us the dirty side of rock, including defining the modern live rock show. New recording techniques brought everyone up to speed to anything that George Martin provided.Relevance in '67? They were part of the 1st ever live satellite hookup, the 'all you need is love' event......and since that summer is called the 'summer of love'......yeah, yer right, no relevance there.
Yea I'm not an expert on the stones, but I dont know that theres a consensus of what a "modern live rock show is".The Beatles knew better than to try an O2 type concert in the 70's. They would have fallen flat on their faces in a live setting. It sure the heck wouldn't be a 4 piece band.They were breaking up and playing on a freezing roof....still... the rooftop gig is great. If they had Marshalls and played their latter day material with more a more mature/non screaming audience they would have owned, no doubt about it.
Anyone here that was old enough to buy "Double Fantasy" when it was released in the Fall of '80 ......How often did you listen to Yoko's side of the lp ? Critics poked fun of Linda McCartney's off key background vocals. Lennon gave Yoko Romo a whole frickin album side on his first solo album in 6 years so she could waste 20 minutes howling like an injured Mandarin dog !!Yeah, lets base the validity of zeppelin with death wish 2 or the Firm ....I dont see the relevance here.
McCartney 70's solo candy like "Let 'Em In" & "My Love",....it's crap. If you can compare that to anything by Zep, we better start talking about how much you enjoy Billy Joel, Elton John, etc.....because they wrote better stuff in the same vein in the same era.. Look at Harrison's 70's solo stuff. Sure I enjoy "All Things Must Pass"....but how about "Extra Texture" or "33 1/3"" ?More solo shittalkin. Successful solo careers after huge bands are rare, thats like a universal constant. The Beatles definitely win over zep in this category anyway. 'Imagine' alone is worth more than most artists' entire discography.
Just fanning the Friday flames of a good thread.indeed, good sir.
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I don't wanna jump into someone else's conv., but I personally prefer Green to SRV.
and you quoted me because....
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You don't respect Stevie Ray Vaughan?
Peter Green is one of my favorite guitar players of all time. Does anybody know where I can get Live in Boston Volume 3?
- i like him, but his stuff could get a bit samey. the whole 'white-Jimi' thing kinda detracts me from his vibe too.
- disc 161 in cd binder #3
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Wow, really? People supporting his guitar playing? I like Nirvana, they were the band that got me into rock. I don't listen to them a whole lot now and I wouldn't say Kurt is a good guitar player . I really can't think of any examples, but I remember liking his lyrics.
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Good music, great riffs, bad lyrics.
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You're thinking of Jon Lord, he was the keyboard player until 2002 when Don Airey took over. Rod Evans was the original singer from 68 - 69.
He could have saw the Evans-led 1980 'Deep Purple'.
or just mk2 with strange dye jobs...
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Big Jimi fan right here. Everyone should check out the new Jimi at Monterey DVD, we all know why the performance is so important
The guy painting Jimi on the wall. Yep, a seminal moment indeed.
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Lennon had mommy issues, and Yoko was definitely motherly towards him. Plus you figure he probably nailed every hot chick there was, so he didnt need a trophy wife.
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Can any of you recommend me where to start with tommy bolin? expect for spectrum and james gang!
Assuming you've got his 2 solo ones already...
And if you want a Spectrum part2, you'll want
Mind Transplant by Alphonse Mouzon
I actually like this better than Spectrum.
Can anyone play better than RB on Burn?Can anuyon eplay drums better tahn paice on Burn?
Can anyone play keyboards better than Lorf in Burn?
Can anyone play bass better than hughes on Bur?n
can anyone sing better than dave on Burn?
- maybe malmsteen..cause y'know....yea....
- NO
- wakeman
- yes
- the guy they just kicked out of the band the yr before
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Ok..so don't blame her...but a little guilt by association maybe. Whether John was already becoming disenchanted or if it'd been some other girl in his life...whatever...but it was YOKO....her presence in the studio caused lots of tension among the others...right or wrong..it happened...
He'd said that he considered the Beatles broken up after Epstein died, even though Paul tried to lead them through the Magical Mystery Tour crapfest (movie, not album). Ringo quit in '68 and George in early '69, but they came back. He wasn't motivated to leave outright until Rock and Roll Circus/Dirty Mac and definitely by Cold Turkey. Even when he finally decided to, he didnt because the Beatles were re-negotiating their contract royalties in late '69. Paul beat him to it (breaking the group up) to promote his solo album.
Based on his interviews, he seemed willing to keep the group 'together' as a facade even with the management dispute (which was divided as Paul vs the rest of the band). It seemed like everyone was ready to leave but Paul was the one who finally did something about it.
People like to point to the Let It Be sessions/Yoko/control room scenes, but the whole of the sessions were shit for all involved. The Twickenham Sessions which happened directly before the Abbey Road footage pretty much broke up the band. 30 days of having everything you do in a weirdly lit shed filmed for a 'making of' documentary (Pauls idea) can do that.
So there...all Pauls fault.
Please tell me you didn't cut those long locks. 
Yea I'm not an expert on the stones, but I dont know that theres a consensus of what a "modern live rock show is".
The Darkness thread
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i just dug up this corpse to say i saw them live last thursday in LA.
they were epic.
if you get a chance to catch them on this tour they are still in their prime. The setlist is epic, all the old favs, and helps the new album is pretty frikkin good, and they are playing smallish venues that they are waaayy to good to be playing.
http://www.laweekly.com/slideshow/the-darkness-kick-off-their-tour-at-the-fonda-theatre-9310510/45