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18 hours ago, dpat said:
One of the coolest videos I've ever viewed of a Zep cover -- which I think may be filmed in the bar/pub/tavern that was the inspiration for the album cover of In Through the Out Door (my apologies if this has been posted before):
The bar in this video is a studio built set according to a band member reply to a You Tube comment.
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yes, Page. Plant, Jones and others are Company Directors of Mythgem
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14 minutes ago, Archetype said:
According to my copies of the DVDs (a 1999 DVD of the film and the 2007 Collector's Edition), the copyright in the film is owned by Swan Song whereas the copyright in the bonus materials (deleted scenes, omitted songs, etc.) is owned by Warner Bros. This suggests that Page et al. own and control only the original film and probably only the soundtrack to that original film and that Warner owns whatever was left over and not used in the film.
My original vinyl (purchased new many many years ago) of the "soundtrack" says the copyright was owned by WEA Records. Ltd. Assuming WEA is basically Page et al., this is consistent with ownership of the film and the soundtrack to that film by Page et al.
My copy of the 2007 CD remaster of the audio "soundtrack" album indicates copyright ownership by both Atlantic Recording Corp. (identified as a Warner Music Group company) and an entity called "Mythgem, Ltd." Because there are extra tracks on this edition (e.g., OTHAFA, MMH, etc.) the copyright ownership information here is consistent with ownership of the film and the soundtrack to that film by Page et al. (assuming Mythgem is basically Page et al.) and ownership of the left-overs and unused stuff by Warner.
So, in summary: Copyright notices indicate that Page controls the original film and the soundtrack to that original film and that Warner owns everything else associated with the film (including audio tracks).
My best guess is that the revenue-sharing agreement for the audio album, between Warner (Atlantic) and Page et al. (Mythgem), splits right at the line between "soundtrack" to the film and "live performances" recorded in connection with the film. Thus, to ensure maximum value of the copyright in the audio album (and therefore the maximum revenue share from sales of the album), Page might have had an incentive to ensure that there was no dispute that the bulk of the audio album was Page-owned "soundtrack" versus Warner-owned "live performance." In theory, that might translate to editing some songs to ensure that they are viewed as "soundtrack" to the film under current copyright law and practice (which may have changed a bit since 1976).
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Badgeholders for me too.
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In the late 70's my first soundboard was Destroyer 27/4/77 ....and I was SO disappointed. I already had the audience Destroyer of the next night 28/4/77 and the difference stunned me. To this day I would much rather have a decent audience recording than any soundboard. As Jimmy said himself about Zeppelin...."above all else an ambient band " In my opinion soundboards had an inflated reputation for many years when it came to Zep....( and a lot of people confuse sound board with multi track ) and my go to was Destroyer 28/4/77 and the Millard LA shows. The 1980 original soundboards just confirmed my belief.
Having said that, I am old school and confess I have lost track of all the stuff that can be done now with new technology, Matrixes, new sources, mixing of xources etc....so much out there now.
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10 hours ago, porgie66 said:
Maybe Sam or Steven A Jones would know who Bonzo's tech was for Europe 80 tour, if not Hinton.
It was Mick Hinton on the Europe 80 tour. ( per Dave Lewis book "Feather In The Wind --Over Europe 80 )
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3 hours ago, badgeholder said:
Is Bonzo holding maracas here? Sure looks like it. Jimmy on the Danelectro, so....maracas on Kashmir doesn't make sense...WTF is going on here? (Photo from Copenhagen '79, the first night)
That dark area above Bonzo's right hand is the pattern on his shirt. ( I can't see a drumstick though the pic may have caught him in the middle of twirling the stick and it is pointing downwards ?? _)
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2 hours ago, hercoflex said:
Can anybody help identify this? I'm stumped.
Hammersmith Jeff Beck gig 10th March 1981 ??
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On 12/15/2019 at 4:37 PM, SteveAJones said:
Quite old fake news, apparently. I've updated the file I pulled that from to omit it.
I'd say Summer '84. Possibly Pistoia, Italy 7/84. The person on the left seems to be holding a vinyl copy of TSRTS, most likely for an autograph. Page seems to be wearing the same bomber jacket he wore for his appearance with Roy Harper on Old Grey Whistle Test which aired 11/16/84 (photo 1). See also undated photo (photo 2).
The 'undated photo you mention is Jimmy at the Rock Garden in Covent Garden London on 24/11.84.
The leather jacket seems to have been a fave of Jimmy's from 82 to 84.....he is wearing it in this pic when I met him in April 82
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The stormtrooper 'look' was inspired by Charlotte Rampling as a slave of the Nazi's in the film 'The Night Porter'. Page and Grant were apparently obsessed with her in that film and watched it over and over. (and Jimmy's skeletal appearance on the 77 tour added to the 'look.)
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46 minutes ago, 76229 said:
What is that note? "I'm sorry we have no filters"?
I read it as " I'm sorry we have no titles "
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1 hour ago, PeaceFrogYum said:
What tunes did they join in on? I bet it was Dirty White Boy
Lucille.
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6 hours ago, IpMan said:
You do realize Rotterdam is not in Germany, nor is it near any US bases. As only four dates of the European tour were outside of Germany (Brussels, Rotterdam, Zurich, & Vienna) it would make sense those dates would have a greater native population.
You know, I have no idea why you are getting so worked up over this, I was simply stating what a very reliable friend had told me. Plus, I have known other US servicemen who also attended some of the German gigs and they pretty much said the same thing. But hey, if it calms you down then fine, they are all completely wrong, delusional even and you who admittedly attended only the Rotterdam date are the ultimate source of factual information for tour dates you never attended. You mentioned Dave Lewis, so, how about you post a quote from him regarding the make up of the German audiences as I am sure he would know. Or, have him post here to confirm either way since you are such good friends. I have no problem admitting when I am wrong and will gladly do so. In the time being though, in an effort not to bruise your delicate ego, I defer to your expert opinion on this matter...having attended a single show and all.
Am well aware of where Rotterdam is but are you ? It is closer to some of the German cities and the US Army bases than they are to each other.
eg. .Cologne to Rotterdam is 160 miles. Munich to Bremen is 465 miles.
As for the US base in Frankfurt...it is 285 miles from Rotterdam. It's also 246 miles from Munich...not that much difference.
Look, I just disagreed that it was stated as "fact" that the "majority" of the attendees on the Euro dates were US Service personnel. You are the one that got worked up about it and have the ;delicate ego'.
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4 hours ago, IpMan said:
So, my friend who was at both shows is somehow wrong but you are correct? Did you attend either the Frankfurt or Munich shows? Did you attend any of the shows?
Yes, your friend is wrong. The "majority" of the attendance at Frankfurt and Munich were not American service personnel.
You are wrong saying it was a "fact" saying the whole tour was in the "majority" attended by American service personnel.
I was at Rotterdam...attendance was between 10 and 15,000.....if the majority of that was US army personnel it would have been a whole different atmosphere and gig. If you think over half of that attendance was American service personnel then that is quite a troop movement from the base in Germany and the Russians would have gone to Defcon 1. Joking aside, it only takes a few hundred "hollerin and yee haw" americans to vastly impove the atmosphere at a low key euro gig.
Dave Lewis is the best source for this. Have known him personally for over 35 years..he was on the tour with the band. The American personnel thing is acknowledged at Frankfurt and maybe Munich but not the whole tour.
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15 hours ago, IpMan said:
The fact is, the majority of the audience at those European dates were American servicemen. I have a friend who attended both the Frankfurt and Munich gigs and he supported this fact. He said the shows were pretty much USO shows in all but name only, that's how much of the audience were US soldiers.
Sorry, have to disagree with this. It's not a "fact" at all. There were a notable contingent of US service personnel at Frankfurt and maybe Munich but even on those nights they were not the " majority" of the audience. As for the other 10 or so dates it was definitely not the case
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13 hours ago, SteveAJones said:
Seems to be a previously unpublished photo, or at least an obscure one.
I believe it was taken at his flat in Eastbourne towards the end of his life.
Chelsea Harbour not Eastbourne
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Anyone else seen this film...from 1949.....starring John Wayne and Oliver Hardy !!
It's a while since I saw it but from memory quite early on in the film there is a scene where in the background soldiers are sitting gathered around a woman playing acoustic and she is singing Gallows Pole. (though I think she sang 'Gallows Tree' as opposed to 'Pole'.
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It was BBC DJ John Peel not John Lennon Robert had the exchange with
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I've mentioned before somewhere I have a photo of Jimmy pleading with a constable outside the Royal Albert Hall not to have his illegally-parked car towed away. Incident occured during the soundcheck for the first show on September 20, 1983, further frazzling his nerves.
and as i previously mentioned, Jimmy was not pleading with the constable not to have the car towed away...see the ARMS Concert thread..i posted the pic i took too. you must have missed my post steve...
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Dave have you uploaded to a photo-hosting site ( like Photobucket)?
This is the photo i took ( a bit blurred sorry) Hi Knebby!
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Meeting band members
in Led Zeppelin Newbies
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I'm fortunate. I've met Robert and Jimmy many many times over the years . JPJ only twice. Never met Bonzo.