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Here's another one Steve. A friend of mine claimed to go a private show of the Crowes/Page in I believe San Francisco. The cool part is that he said there was no more than a few hundred people there and everybody sat real close to the stage. I'm guessing it was a rehearsal (like the Copenhagen shows in '79). Do you know what date this roughly was, what venue, and of course, is it available bootleg wise?
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There's a time and a place for tell-all books, but less than five years after the end of
the group as they stuggled to find their own paths forward was obviously too soon.
His book came out in the 90's. HOTG came out a few years after they broke up.
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Yeah, but many would still like to bury the hatchet in his head.
I still don't see what's wrong with Cole's book. What is the BS in there? Some of our boys dabbled in hard drugs. So what. It's not like we didn't know. As for making Bonzo look like a creep in some parts, well that's part of who he was (at least when wasted). It doesn't make me look down at him whatsoever. We all know he was a loving family man who loved playing drums but overall, hated touring. I personally think that they hated that he let some details out that they had rather we would have not heard.
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The back injury accelerated entering a period of inactivity, but I think it was inevitable.
His children were very young and he was determined to be there for them. By his own admission he had no desire to maintain a proper solo career, so it seems to me unless
he had a chance to continue further with Robert or Led Zeppelin it was meant to be.
I wonder why Jimmy is against a solo career. Is it because the Outrider tout didn't do as well as predicted? I still say people want to see him live.
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Having said all that, I can share with you one confirmed connection between Led
Zeppelin and The Grateful Dead: On 10/13/94 Jimmy & Robert were in NYC doing
promo work for 'No Quarter' and attended the first night of The Grateful Dead's six shows at Madison Square Garden. They observed how TGD allowed fans to record in designated taper's sections and consequently similar arrangements were made for the first leg of their own 1995 North American tour.
I was actually at that show. I remember that word was spreading through the crowd that P/P were there. It would have been incredible if they came on stage and jammed with the Dead. Dylan showed up on one of the other nights at MSG and did two encores with them. I was pissed because my girl and I bought fake tix from some scalper that a cop told us was safe to use (for the Dylan show). I could be wrong but I get a feeling that they weren't a huge fan of our boys. The Dead seemed to do a ton of tributes to other classic rock bands (Stones, Beatles, Who, Dylan, Warren Zevon, etc.) but never Zep. It wasn't until the new version of the Dead (post-Jerry) that they did a Zeppelin tune (OTHAFA). I think Warren Haynes had a lot to do with that. Anyone ever hear any Dead quotes about Zeppelin (good or bad)? I've heard Robert refer to them in the latter years and of course, like I said before, I remember reading that Jimmy consulted Jerry about the Steel Pedal for LZIII. Not sure what that actually means or if it actually happened.
Oh yeah, my girl and I also went to the NYC premier of Unledded at some theater in the city. Steve, do you know which theater it was? It was one of those things that you supposedly could only win from a radio station but we got in after my girl flashed one of the DJs (I know...classy). P/P were advertised as being there but they never made an appearance. They supposedly went to the China Club later that night. We tried but couldn't get in there. Aw, those were magical times.
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Hi Steve. Here's a two-part Zep/Grateful Dead question. I remember reading that the Dead arrived at some photographer's house for a photo shoot. Zep were already there doing one and while they were, Pig Pen, the famous Dead keyboardist (and known prankster) started shooting his gun off. Supposedly, the boys freaked out and quickly left. I find this a little hard to believe (esp. if Peter Grant was there). If it's true, do you know who shoot the photos of Zep, and are they available for public viewing?
Also, I remember reading that Jimmy had contacted Jerry Garcia about advice on the steel-pedal guitar for Zep III. Did they actually meet up and if so, any details? Thanks.
P.S. Also, any other Dead/Zep stories to share?
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That sucks. I was really looking forward to this tour. Thanks for passing this on Jahfin.
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The 1977 tour was just so negative and dark, overall...it just has that vibe. Some of my favorite Zeppelin concerts and setlists are from this tour, but overall there was so much more behind it than the previous tours. It seems like 1975 was the last time a Zep tour was "fun"...1977 just doesn't seem "fun" even when you listen to the best shows.
The crowds were there for the event more than the music (riots, constantly tossing firecrackers at the stage, etc) and Page and Bonham were so far up their own arses with drugs/booze it affected the performances (Page, mostly...either brilliant or shite)...
Still it's a tour that fascinates me and continues to to this day...
Disagree about Bonzo, this was by far some of his best performances. His drumming on TSRTS from the DVD (you can find it on one of the menus) is the best and fastest he sounded. It sounded like cannons being fired up. Just amazing. Page on the other hand could sound fantastic on one song and crappy the next. SIBLY was pretty horrible on this tour. They should have played "Tea For One" instead.
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What made me happy today? The Eagles beating the crap out of the Giants. GO EAGLES!!!
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WTF was Jimmy thinking? This is the only time I have ever seen where he doesn't look cool.
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Keith or is it....
Dracula?
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I saw them at the 02 back in August and they were dire. Keef was so out of it it was laughable, even Charlie was off colour, only Mick (for me, usually the villain of the piece) was anywhere near up to scratch.
I haven't bought a new album since Dirty Work in '86, and that was rubbish. So I think of them in the past tense too - 1963 to 74 or thereabouts. Best album? Beggars Banquet or Exile On Main Street
But when they woz good, they woz magic, innit. Would loved to have seen them in the early 70s.
I have to agree here. Not to brag but I do a LOT of concerts every year and I still say the lamest one was the Stones on their last tour (Philadelphia). I've seen them before and they were great. There was nothing special about them this night. Honestly, the opening act, the John Mayer Trio, was better and I can't stand John Mayer.
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Having had time to give this some consideration, as well as make specific inquiries, I'm
surprised to find there does not seem to be any confirmed video/film clips "hoarded"
in private collections. There are two videos "rumoured to exist": Tokyo (9/24/71) & Houston (5/21/77). We can be fairly certain additional Reykjavik, Iceland (6/22/70) footage exists (or existed), as well as on and offstage footage filmed by promoter Bill Graham and journalist Chris Welch. Finally, there allegedly exists b&w backstage video
of Led Zeppelin & The Who in Baltimore (7/11/69).
Thanks Steve. What about the Bath stuff? Doesn't some company in LA own the footage but Jimmy didn't want to pay what they were asking?
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Not at all, I just need to compile some information before responding to your inquiry.
You the man.
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My question was just swept under the rug over an Indian meatball.
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Steve, I love watching any video/film clips (and parts/whole shows) available out there. What is supposedly being "hoarded" video/film-wise? I love hearing the rumors, etc. on this stuff.
P.S. No offense to the "hoarders" out there. It's just the term I heard being used on here.
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people get sucked in by the media's presentation of things
*pink floyd in the album chart for 10 years*
hey they must be good lets go buy it.
they also used one of the cheapest tricks in the book - lyrics containing profanity.
it's an early version of what gangster rappers do today.
all impressionable kids love a bit of rebellion .
*bus stop rat bag - you fucked up old hag*
laughable lyrics and a cheap marketing ploy - but hat's off to them
it worked wonders
Yeah that's it. That's the dumbest thing I 've heard in awhile.
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How can anyone's opinion be "wrong"? There's no point in asking for an opinion and then arguing that view.
RB
I knew that would fly over some people's heads...notice the rolling eyes.
P.S. Floyd rules!!
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Floyd is my second fave band after Zep. Everyone is allowed their own opinion but yours is wrong!!!
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I saw them last Spring in Philly. Great concert!
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Is there an opening act for the Who? I seeing them Sunday the 26th.
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Nov. 17 can't get here fast enough....I can't wait!!
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They don't frequent the South too often but they did play New Orleans last I know of, October 16, 2004; August 3, 2002; and August 14, 2000.
Maybe New Orleans is a bit far from your part of the state, Helen.
Art IS in the eye of the beholder though isn't it?
Sonic Youth's music is still better than Pearl Jam's though.
WRONG DRACULA!
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Kings of Leon and the Mars Volta
Jay Leno disses Plant, says he looks like The Cowardly Lion from Wizard of Oz
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Moonface Leno has a lot of nerve to rag on Robert's looks. His chin is three feet long and he has the most annoying voice.