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Are you F**KING KIDDING ME? "The only thing an LA 77 board would be good for" ?????
YOU ARE BANISHED!
GO!
Kidding, but even with the great Millard tapes, there is no doubt that a board of 6/21, 6/23, and even 6/25 and 6/27 are my holy grails. The other shows (22nd and 26th) I'm not too familiar with, but they sound just as well performed as any of the others to me, also. -
i like 5/25 and 5/28 1977 too!
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dernit!!! you guys need to give a solid (turn it up loud) listen to these shows. 5/30/77, 5/22/77, 6/21/77, 6/23/5/7/77, 6/7/77 a listen, and get back to me. are you listening to music on your alarm clock? turn it up!
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edit: thats the video, the cut happened right at :35 seconds in that video. cut for obvious reasons, its not very focused playing, and Jones is introduced as "on bass and Hammond Organ" which would confuse almost anybody watching/listening to the DVD version. Just pointing it out because this was one circulating item that I missed for a long time, only found it recently.
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If that HMMT isn't the version with the complete intro, with each members introduction, there is one out there. That sounds 95% as good as the official release's sound quality. It was release on a compilation boot by itself, mixed in with other live & studio outtake stuff. Kinda like how the ~3 tracks, the raw untouched multi-tracks of WIAWSNB Dancing Days, and Moby Dick, from 6.27.72 were release. In a similar fashion. If you can't find it just ask, I'll see what I can do.
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Meh, we have enough later years boards to hold us for a while. A long while.
When everybody is freaking out about a LA or NYC 77 board, I'm gonna find you and
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Hey bootleg people, if you're reading this, give us some early soundboards once in a while!
I agree, but only after we get a good LA 77 board (oxymoron, they all are great), and a good NYC board (which should be much less sloppy playing-wise than 6.7.77)
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I'm glad that us 1977 fans don't feel as alone as we used to, and now we have more soundboards from '77 to really show the magic that was happening on stage. Here is my list, and they are all great, but some really shine more than others. (by the way, I don't think 5.28 is as bad as folks say it is... IMO the muddy recording and thin guitar sound makes Jimmy's playing seem worse than it really was. i'm sure in the audience he sounded great!)
6.23.77 (only a snippet, but it's #1 on my list because its a good sign that the rest of the show was recorded!
)5.30.77 (simply stunning performance and sound quality)
5.22.77 (SIBLY through Kashmir especially)
6.7.77
5.25.77
5.26.77
5.28.77
6.11.77 snippet (Jimmy sounded sloppier than I'd expected, given the fact that the NYC gigs were known to be well played, but also means the rest of the show may surface
)4.27.77 (not sure if its the sound quality that turns me off, but it sounds thinner to my ears than the other boards, and Jimmy sounds really damn sloppy to me... ???)
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I think everyone agrees this is highly subjective.
That being said, if I wanted to wager on the results of a potential poll, I would say:
Earlier days: 1972/06/25
Latter days: 1977/06/21
I'll agree with this one. One thing: I wouldn't call '72 early days, as they were already performing songs from HOTH. I'd say "early" ended sometime in '71, but thats my opinion. But, 6/25/72 is probably the best representation of the "early" AND "middle" days, in one show.
The latter days came to the mountains highest peak on June 21st through June 27th, 1977.
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You may have just started one. It is plausible.
i'll try and upload the photos. they are in a LZ photo book (forget the name) that is pretty mass produced to book stores, and goes for about $50.
anyways, they look very similar to the extra mic's in Japan. Jimmy is wearing a plaid sweater i think. Extra mic's on the amps behind Jonesy, etc, etc. Also in that book is a photo of LZ onstage at Bath 1970 with a cameraman shooting 16mm footage of the band. Not holding the camera, pointing it and looking through the camera. A small version of an old 16mm video camera. Proves to me that it was filmed, partially maybe, and likely recorded. (but the tapes may be lost or destroyed/no good)
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Any rumor that Hawaii '71 was recorded as a warm-up to Japan '71? Based on photo evidence, it looks like there were extra mic's onstage.
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Their security staff ultimately included the Dautrich brothers, both of whom were detectives with the right connections.
are those two still alive? talk about somebody with some stories to tell. wasn't one Roberts bodyguard or somethin'? Or was he Page's?
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they did get searched, off the top of my head, in australia(?) but obviously the LZ crew weren't a load of idiots. They didn't make it on the road partying so long by luck alone. They were big enough to hire plenty of sober people to look out for em all i guess. (not saying the band were always 4 druggies, just party animals)
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probably from 6/25/72, and 6/27/72. if only i could decide based on the complete multitrack recordings of both.
LIBERATE! For ze People!
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5/26/77! I listen to 5/25 and 5/30 so much, i forgot this one due to it being less recent sbd releases (considering).
I want to put on record that 1977 is my favorite year. I don't know why, but it just has some mysterious vibe to it that blows my mind, and the setlist is killer. (and at the same time, I realize that Jimmy high as a giraffes ass too, but still love it)
ps. Compared to late '72 through '75, live, Robert kicked ass in 1977. '75 bummers had to be sobering, but could that explain his lack of vocal cracking? The voice cracks of '73 are awful (minus 73's excellent shows, which still had plenty)
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i thought he was on a liquid diet and "was hoping to be able to photosynthesize like a plant" in '77? Or am I remembering a quote from an unreliable source (aka. half the Zep books written)???
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27th. I'd bet it was the best, hands down.
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and circulates in excellent quality
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not to be nitpicky, but the full version is about 24 minutes. You probably know, just not the uploader. Just sayin', for the sake of those who may not know.
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HMMT (complete, love the band intros and Thats Alright) from RAH. The sound quality is so close to dvd that I hate to call it anything but excellent. Why the cuts? JPJ on "Hammond Organ"?
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not sure if anybody knows, but I was wondering about Robert as a guitarist.
During the songwriting, and rehearsals and arranging, did Robert ever play rhythm guitar? For instance, if they were getting some ideas together and Jimmy wanted to experiment, did Robert ever cover the other easier parts? (I guess I should ask if there is any "evidence" or quotes, and/or credible claims that he did)
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There was only one feed coming from Jimmy's cabinet.
I don't understand why Jimmy wanted to include TYG from Knebworth but not something like Kashmir from Earls Court or other better performances.
Agree completely. Many other performances from EC or Knebworth would be more suitable for the masses than the TYG. I love TYG in the studio but only the best gigs from 77 do the song justice IMO. Maybe the Copenhagen gigs' TYG too.
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4/27/69 show, on HMMT at the moment.
Daaaamn. Been listening to EV's Double Shot too much. This is a completely different Jimmy.
Whats the best version, quality wise? I have a couple Dadgad Productions (one sounds raw and the other mixed) and Avocado Club? I'll check around, just wondering peoples opinions.
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Was Perth, '72 recorded? I know there aint much, but is there any evidence pointing one way or another? Seems like I remember hearing that there was an official "statement" or quote saying this show was to be recorded for broadcast. Any thoughts, anyone?
To me, the things that make me believe Perth (and maybe Atlanta '73) WAS recorded is lack of photos. In my opinion, CERTAIN shows lack circulating photos FOR A REASON (aka people bought them long before people started looking for photographic evidence of recording) Thats just a hunch, obviously.
Kidding, but even with the great Millard tapes, there is no doubt that a board of 6/21, 6/23, and even 6/25 and 6/27 are my holy grails. The other shows (22nd and 26th) I'm not too familiar with, but they sound just as well performed as any of the others to me, also.
1977 Soundboards...which do you do you think is the best?
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Listen to the first 5 tunes from 5.30.77 again. Seems like you folks have forgot how good 1977 really was on a good night.
And NQ from 5.22, as well as Since I've Been Loving You, are a DREAM my friends. EXCELLENT.