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I must disagree about Grohl's alleged resemblance to Jimmy - no way!
I'm with you on that. Aside from dark facial hair, there's not really even a tiny bit of resemblance.
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Wonder why I'm suddenly only seeing gray photobucket squares instead of photos on some images. If I click on them they open to an image in another tab, but that's a PITA to have to do.
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You people inspired me to create a collage of JP's smiles. I could have added a lot more but you can only put so many in an image before they get lost.
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Ross Halfin just put this photo out on Facebook
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See the added picture, good hairstyle for his older self (I like this better than the ponytail).
I gotta say I'm not so fond of that hairstyle and do prefer the ponytail, as it gets the hair out of his face without having short hair. But then I love long hair on men (providing they have good hair, of course).
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d0/f4/6f/d0f46f4d02933198b38b8590402bf6d9.jpg
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Some of those pictures are really tough to look at. Saddening. And I'm pretty sure that all men had crap hair dye in the '90s.
Some still have crap hair dye jobs today. I wonder just how gray Jeff Beck really is, for instance.
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Not silly! I, too, go bonkers seeing unidentified photos. Some people are perhaps satisfied just to look, but I want to know *everything*.
Sorry, didn't mean to be replying to a post of my own. I don't know how to delete posts from the thread.
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So I wonder who this woman is? Photos apparently taken Sept 9 2014, looks like at a bus stop or something. She's obviously aware of the photographer.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/7051_296944483832626_2480638057221399552_n.jpg?oh=0e9662c9667b0dbb4456bb95524c3f4c&oe=54929D4C&__gda__=1422630037_97699189cedb063eb9ad4e1f48005d39
More photos at http://www.framephoto.com.br/Home/ListFotosGaleria?action=filterSearchPhotos&headline=JIMMY+PAGE+E+UMA+COMPANHIA+FEMININA+EM+NOTHING+HILL+-+09%2F09%2F2014&category=19&time=365&vertical=0&horizontal=0&qty=25&paginaAtual=0 -
Oh, cool! I'm quite anal about knowing when / where / why etc. - silly really.
Not silly! I, too, go bonkers seeing unidentified photos. Some people are perhaps satisfied just to look, but I want to know *everything*.
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This a picture thread of Jimmy, by the way.
I know it's a picture thread, but I had to respond to lipslikecherries' worry about her chances!
But because it is a picture thread, here's one from 1980.
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Forensic girlfriend discussion:
I'm not sure which comments go with which photos, so I'm curious which photo tibbierocks was referring to originally when she talked about Avenyanda Skye being Jimmy Page's girlfriend. Avenyanda is a professional belly dancer, but I've seen nothing to indicate she's in any kind of relationship with Jimmy Page. People put any old captions/comments on photos and you just can't take them as gospel. It's always best to do some research about "facts" you read, and to weigh them against other facts.Such as, the photo of JP in Morocco with a woman and a man standing in bathing suits on either side of him has a caption about his belly dancer girlfriend.
- Fact: The woman doesn't have the physique of a belly dancer
- Fact: Neither Jimmy Page's body language nor the woman's shows any relationship between them (no touching or leaning, and he's standing equidistant between the man and woman).
- Fact: The woman in the photo doesn't look like Aveyanda Skye
- Fact: There are no photos or reports on the web of JP hanging out with Aveyanda Skye
- Fact: If anyone was going to comment about JP and current girlfriends, it would be Ross Halfin - and he hasn't. The closest connection I can come up with between JP and Skye is that she's a FB friend of Peter Makowski's. Oh, and there's a video of her dancing to Led Zeppelin, which doesn't mean anything, because who hasn't danced to LZ?
- Fact: Jimmy Page gets photographed with lots and lots of women. If any of them were actual girlfriends, I think we'd see more than one photo of them together.
As for the blond who has been identified as Hank Williams' granddaughter, Holly, note how pregnant she is in that photo. Holly Williams is expecting her first child in October. She is happily married to Chris Coleman. Here is a link to a photo of her taken last May for US Magazine, with her baby bump. She was in London at the Kings Palace on June 23 and JP came to the show for her set. As you can see, from his body language with Holly, JP is being careful about her. Not a girlfriend hug, IMO.
So maybe I'm analyzing the wrong photos. If so, please repost the "belly dancer girlfriend" photo again! Thanks! -
Not that it matters, but that is not the belly dancer in the photograph.
Agreed. Neither the woman nor the man are belly dancers. They look more like body-builders, they don't have the kind of bodies that belly dancers have (and yes, there are male belly dancers and they are good). And of course, if that woman was JP's girlfriend, he'd likely not be so careful to not be touching her.
I assumed the two were just vacationers that wanted a photo of them with JP.
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I'm reminded of Lisa Robinson's comment about Page in her book. "He looked angelic; he wasn't."
Lucifer is an angel. Fallen, perhaps, but still....
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I have already written up my very personal reactions to the three sets of remasters released to date, but I have to add this: <sigh> I just listened to Jennings Farm Blues (rough mix) something like a dozen times in a row while I was wrapping up some work I was doing. I just love that burbling sound, like clear water over the pebbles of a sprite's stream.
Anyone who whines about these remaster companion discs should please leave the building so the rest of us can listen in ecstasy and adoration.
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if you listen to the song Taurus at the 1:35 mark, I could just about sing a line or two from Stairway To Heaven.
... LZ became successful on their own, it is not even likely that he would have gone back to listen to Spirit's songs.
If you listen to almost any song played by anyone you'll hear a riff or a bit of melody that sounds like some other song. That is the nature of music and of art - that our minds seek out patterns. It is hardwired into brains (not just human brains!).
Without being able to relate to previously encountered and understood patterns, it is impossible for humans (or other beings with brains) to even make sense of what they perceive. This, too, is hardwired into brains. It is impossible for human beings to create art or to perceive art that does not share elements with other art, because without that sharing, human brains couldn't make sense of it. In music it would just be a meaningless cacophony. That's why it is so difficult for many people to make any sense of the most innovative jazz, and why new forms of music are hard for some people to "get".
This is the problem with the stupid lawsuit - that everyone is treating art like it was the stuff of everyday living, which it isn't. Any ordinary human being can hear whether a whole song has been copied and any ordinary human being can recognize parts of songs incorporated into other songs. That's why we all can understand that the "happy birthday" song is what it is no matter how it gets tweaked musically. That's how we can pick out the strains of the Star Spangled Banner when Jimi Hendrix played it - possibly the first ever time that that song had been played that way. That's because it's hardwired into our brains to do so and because to create art it is *necessary* for that to happen to some degree.
A few notes, a phrase shared does NOT make a song a copy of another. If it did, we'd have to toss out most of the music that's ever been created. Does anyone think Beck's Bolero is a copy of Ravel's Bolero because there is a musical phrase in the former that is obviously used? I think not.
PS - I like Darlene MCM's comment about not going back to listen to Spirit's songs, but in fact it is well known that Jimmy Page was/is an avid collector and listener to other people's music. All artists study other artists' work. That's the nature of art!
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Note: I edited my comments above to remove a rather negative term I used. I do not wish to offend anyone.
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I posted that in response to the people bitching about the Stephen Colbert clip.
Okey dokey. I'll just go listen to some LZ and all will be well in my world.
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satire sat·ire [sat-ahyuhr]
I've been left behind again. But that's not new.
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And the original poster jim6225, disappeared from the website the moment he posted the accusation:
The original poster of what? The comment that no one commented on the proof? That was posted by juxtiphi. He is still here.
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Its funny, 9 pages or speculation and some out right blame was posted but when I post definitive proof that Stairway was not stolen only two people bother to comment. Where are all those people who were sure it was plagiarized now!?
I don't know, I figured there would be many more people here who would be interested in seeing proof positive of Stairways authenticity.
While we all may agree with you that STH wasn't stolen, it is the nature of this kind of lawsuit that what is proof to you and I might not be proof to a judge.
As for why more people didn't comment on your post - I don't know. I read music but don't read tablature (if that's what that is that used to show the proof) so while I can compare one thing to the other that you offered, I don't actually know what either thing is.
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This lawsuit will go nowhere at all.
Stairway To Nowhere.
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5/31 was the filing date. Was that deliberate?
I'm sure that our Draco look-alike has a nefarious and well thought-out timeline for his actions. Every action is calculated in lawsuits, so the timing probably was deliberate in its being filed prior to the first releases. I'd be just guessing that it was a just-in-case move combined with a bid for maximum exposure by getting lots of people to look at the lawsuit on the coattails of LZ I, II & III publicity. The just-in-case part is commonly done to cover all possible bases even if you can't yet imagine how it would be useful. I wouldn't be surprised that Draco would claim additional damages because the LZ I, II & III publicity raised awareness of IV and therefore the upcoming STH would be worth even more than a stand-alone. But I'm just guessing.
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Spot on - well said lif.
Terrible that the very narrow prism of copyright law should be brought to bear in this instance, as with many other cases. There are two countervailing things going on: one is business/ownership and the other is the way that so much art develops in an organic way.
It's about the word derivative, which is seen as a negative quality, but is only negative if something is borrowed to no artistic end. Aside from such cases, lots of great art in all genres is derivative. And as you say, the grasping attempt to appropriate and monetise "product" can be a huge brake on artistic development.
Thanks T&B. Landmark cases can change laws. If a law is faulty, it is just plain wrong to merely judge a case on legal points. Look at the laws on racial and sexual equality - they came about because the laws themselves were the problem.
The other thing I'd like to add to your points is that human beings *do not understand* anything new that is not related to something they already know. Our brains are hardwired for pattern recognition, and like with jokes, there is pleasure in perceiving (seeing, hearing, etc) a familiar pattern that is changed in different and even unexpected ways. However, a totally new pattern may not even be recognized as a pattern. That's why "avant garde" art - experimental art that goes way far from what we are familiar with - has such slim chance of becoming popular in its own time, and why music from totally different cultures may not even be understood as music. People have to be educated and gradually accept new patterns into not only their own minds, but into the collective minds of the culture they live within.
All this is a long way of saying that artists who don't borrow from previous art may not even produce a work that is considered art. THAT is the point about the history of art for thousands of years that the law needs to address.
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know Jimmy's history of "borrowing"
One of the big problems with mixing business and the arts (and music is obviously one of the arts) is that throughout human history making copies of a work has been not only accepted, but encouraged. It's only been in the last hundred years or so (as opposed to thousands of years of humans creating works of art) that this has been a problem.
Today's copyright laws have failed to even acknowledge that there are two completely different, and apparently opposing, viewpoints to art: the creative act that generates the work of art versus making money off of the work through copies. The law can say what it wants but artists still work from the same inner space, which is influenced by and yes, even takes from other artists' work. It wasn't all that long ago that incorporating direct inspiration in a work of art was an act of tribute, not theft. It isn't even illegal to create exact copies of works of art -- if it is sold it simply has to be sold as a copy, generally as a licensed copy (otherwise you couldn't buy Led Zeppelin posters and photos, could you?)
This new business/legal development doesn't change the nature of the basic human need to create art. This creative drive is part of human nature - a basic need like the need to socialize and communicate - it is not an optional artifice of modern civilization. As long as copyright law ignores this point, there will be needless legal problems, particularly when there are opportunistic bloodsucker attorneys out there who want to take advantage of the situation.
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Hi lif - thanks for your comments .. and his advertising poster is an awesome discovery... but what an appalling man.
Hope they are bringing in all their big guns and channelling the spirit of Peter Grant.
I love your comments - they make me laugh quite often. "Channeling the spirit of Peter Grant"! Can you imagine the mayhem?
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OK - I just assumed it was a problem on my end. I don't have a Photobucket account, so I figured I wouldn't be able to see the images because of that. But who knows. The ways of the internet are mysterious.