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Besides, the '77 setlist already had enough Physical Graffiti songs as it is.Although I never said it out loud, I often thought the same thing those people on the bootlegs said...enough with the guitar lesson, indeed, Jimmy! Play a goddamn SONG like "The Rover" or "In the Light"!!!
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Like I said, a "semblence" of what they were going to see. Yeah the drum solos were averaging about 20 minutes, but at least the noise solos had a certain level of dynamics to them, i.e., harmonizer~theremin~guitar noodling(though this part didnt show up til San Diego 6/19)~violin bow. And the noise solo from 4/28 was only about 10 minutes, and on 6/21, the audience just had Heartbreaker played to them, so they did have aIn "TSRTS" film, "Moby Dick" is edited down to a palatable 10 minutes and Jimmy's bowing extravaganza is lucid and in the context of "Dazed and Confused", ie. it's part of an ongoing song.
On the 77 tour, the drum solo and guitar solo were self-indulgent 20-30 minute solos...and Jimmy's especially could be haphazard and meandering at best, even with the added visual flair of the laser light show. And on those shows where the guitar solo followed the drum solo, that meant there was close to an hour of momentum-killing bullshit. The concerts often struggled to regain intensity and momentum after this.
Although I never said it out loud, I often thought the same thing those people on the bootlegs said...enough with the guitar lesson, indeed, Jimmy! Play a goddamn SONG like "The Rover" or "In the Light"!!!
But still, as bored as I and others might have been(the drum solo was the cue to hit the restrooms and snackbar lines and chat up the girls), you never heard booing at the end of a Zeppelin concert...at least I never did.
I bet you don't hear any booing DURING Zeppelin's set.
"goddamn" song, so I still think guy shouldn't have been complaining. Plus I think that "Achilles' Last Stand" more than made up for any so-called "lost momentum." As someone who only can listen to these shows on CD or on the computer, I might use the bathroom during "Over the Top" if I have to, but usually I stick around. I'm starting to think I'm the only one on this whole forum who enjoys the noise solos too. While yes, I think that maybe at least a song or two like "Royal Orleans" or "For Your Life" would've fit quite snuggly between these two pieces, I for one still find these solos to be an enthralling and engaging part of the concert, assuming the level of energy that night was relatively high.
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Is there a bootleg that fuses the two sources together to make a complete concert?Both sources are pretty complete. The "Out Of The Way" source has a few little tape flip cuts here and there (IMTOD, NQ, BYAS, drum solo, ALS...I'm guessing 60 minute tapes were used) but nothing major. There are some great Plantations, especially his pre-TYG snarky comment about not hiring Billy Preston (such as The Stones and George Harrison did, only to have Billy more or less steal the show). The other source, the "Dixie" source has less cuts (merely one during the Noise Solo) but it is a bit more distant sounding (taped by the same guy who recorded the April 3 OKC show)...it does feature a longer intro where the MC is giving the audience a few safety/security tips. Of those two, despite the cuts, the "Out Of The Way" recording is superior. Either way, it's a good show, one of the better '77 shows IMO...if you've stumbled across a third source, at this late date, that's pretty fucking cool.
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Achilles' Last Stand 6/20/80. Also, am I the only one on this forum who enjoys the '77 noise solos?
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I don't see what they were complaining about, April 28 was a really good show, and I'm assuming that by that point many of the people there had seen "The Song Remains the Same", so they should've at least had a semblence of what they were going to see. I guess he was the one that missed it. Same goes for 6/21. I hate when that guy in the audience yells that "guitar lessons" remark, because around that time is when I'm really getting into the solo. Also maybe the people at Tempe were too high or had too much pity to boo LZ that night.I believe the exact comment is "This sucks!!!"...another classic from the April 28th show is, right before "Trampled Under Foot" when one guys says, "We love you Jimmy!" only to have his friend shoot back, "Hey Jimmy, learn how to play yer guitar!" LOL
And let's not forget the infamous, "Enough with the guitar lesson" remark made during the Noise Solo on June 21st. Not necessarily instances of booing, but you can tell the impatience in the audience as some of those tedious solos was palpable.
As I've said before, as jaw droppingly bad as the Tempe show is, you don't hear any booing on the audience tape. Nor do I know of any pissed off fans rushing the ticket booths demanding refunds they way they demanded tickets for any of those iffy shows. I'm sure thousands of fans being annoyed at ponying up the dough only to witness a mediocre performance and walking out would have made The Concert File book or something...
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The "Harmonizer/Theremin/Violin Bow Solo" from 6/27/77. Go Jimmy, go!
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Heartbreaker 6/29/80
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You can hear someone close to the taper shout the same thing during "Over the Top" on the second night at Cleveland '77.I recall on a boot from Birmingham (UK) from 16th or 17th December 72 that during Dazed & Confused someone close to the taper shouts most unflatteringly:
" BORING". Amazing really as I consider that period to be the best by the band. Also University of Kent in 1971 they apparently didn't go down too well. Again it's a matter of taste really. Weird that no tapes at all have ever been reported on the "Back to the clubs" tour (except Belfast & Dublin).
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Whole Lotta Love from September 24th 1971 at the Budokan Hall in Tokyo Japan.
Hypothetically ...
in Led Zeppelin Live
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Well I was just wondering so I could go get that instead. I just don't like having a cut in the middle of ALS (my favorite LZ song you see.)