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I'm only quoting what I remember from what Jimmy himself has been quoted as saying, and he gave TYG as a specific example. (On a side note, as a guitarist I personally would not use the same amp for a Les Paul and for a Tele as there is so much difference in tone between the two guitars - If Jimmy used a separate amp for the Tele, that would explain why there was no feed. Don't forget he had a stack of amps & cabs up there and nobody really seems to know for certain how he had them wired. Also bear in mind they only had 16 tracks of audio to play with, between 7 and 10 of which were probably used solely for the drums! Add in multiple keyboards, Bass Guitar and Vocals.....)
There would obviously been personal preference amongst the band members to take into consideration, both from an audio and video perspective. (Personally I reckon they thought Roberts voice was in better condition at Knebworth than EC)
I heard that EC and Knebworth were recorded on a 24 track machine - Knebworth was recorded with the Rolling Stones Mobile Studio, and at that point it was equiped with a 24 track machine, so they probably just forgot to send the signal from the mixing board to the recording machine when he used a different amp. I also heard that Jimmy's guitar from one of the nights didn't get recorded on TYG, thus why they wouldn't release both nights, he probably changed amps more so alot of songs missed the guitar. I'm just assuming, I see no reason why Jimmy wouldn't want to release the full show.
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Steve, do you know any details about the filming of TSRTS in 1975? I'm fairly sure I've read in When Giants Walked the Earth or Cole's autobiography that several 1975 dates were planned to be filmed but it didn't happen because of Plant's accident. So two questions:
1. What dates were planend to be filmed?
2. Zep played 53 shows in 1975. Why didn't the band film any of these? Were they waiting for the later part of the year or what?
What do you mean by TSRTS in 1975? Like a another show was intended to be released instead of the 1973 one?
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No worries. Mick Taylor returning to the fold - albeit in a limited capacity - is clearly the most wonderful subplot of the 50 & Counting tour.
Not only the tour, but I think that the idea itself of bringing Mick Taylor again is the best thing the Stones have done in the past 20 years.
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Having had the Black Beauty stolen while on tour may have discouraged him from risking more than absolutely necessary.
Yeah,I also thought he probably didn't want to take more guitars on tour because he was afraid of them getting stolen like his Black Beauty.
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He purchased the boathouse in Pangbourne in late '67/early '68 (he'd been living with his parents up until that time). I'm not saying he was destitute but I don't think it's accurate to say he was well-off prior to Led Zeppelin. Few young professional musicians were at the time. Wealth is of course relative.
Alrighty, that's good enough for me. I don't like digging to much into what they had or didn't have, that's their business.
Still bothers me the fact that he didn't have more guitars with him on tour.
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You said Jimmy Page was "quite wealthy even before joining Zep" which I may have misunderstood. Jimmy was quite frugal in his sessions era, residing with his parents in a modest home in Epsom.
Was his Pangebourne (am I pronouncing that right?) home bought before Zeppelin? It's of my understanding that that house was quite big. That would mean he had some cash...
Not that I'm interested in knowing his financial status before he joined Zeppelin, just that I wanted to know why the heck wouldn't he have another spare guitar besides "number 3" before 1975
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Wasn't magerogue asking about their Japan 1972 tour? I think it's safe to say that Jimmy had no backup for the #1 back then.
Yeah that's what I wanted to pin down. Man, he was really careless...
Didn't he have enough money to buy another one??
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Allow me to reply.
Jimmy was up a creek, more than you think with a lack of guitars. You'd think he'd have more backup guitars with him tour, but by all accounts and photographs available, this doesn't seem to be the case.
The Cherry Red Gibson Les Paul #3 was around as early as August 1970, but didn't really get used much until the 1973 US Tour. He had the Dano available (although it would have to have been re-tuned), the Dragon Tele wasn't on the road much after the Les Paul #1 came into use, the Black Beauty was on the road a very short time until, of course, April 1970 and of course there was the Doubleneck. The Gibson Les Paul #2 was acquired in late 1973.
So, what was available in 1971-1972 as backups in Japan? Realistically, the Dano and the Doubleneck.
Meaning he would have been screwed if his Red LP had an electronics problem and his number one broke a string and he didn't have replacement strings... Just brings the question if he really got the number two in 1973/74 or in 1970. I've seen a ton of pictures from before 1973 with Jimmy playing a les paul with a different burst from his number one.
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Steve, do you know if Jimmy had his red les paul during the Japan tour?
What guitars exactly did he have on tour, to replace his number one if needed, before 1975?
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Here's some. Does anybody know where these are from and do they exist in a better quality/resolution?
Thanks!The first one is form 1971, the second one, I'll be shooting in the dark, but I think it's from Houston 1971, the third one is possibly from February 1972, Jimmy cut his air during the Australian tour and it doesn't look as big as it did in 1971 when he also had the beard, so it's easy to pin down the date. The last one, I'm not sure about the place but it's definately from 1973.
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Earls Court?
This is an AWESOME picture!!
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Steve,
September 3, 1971 Madison Square Garden. How exactly does part of stage collapse during the encores? Didn't happen when they first played there in 1970, nor any return trips from 1973 on (another mystery: why did Zep avoid MSG in 1972, and decide to play Nassau Coliseum in Long Island instead).
I read that fans had rushed the stage when they came back out for the encores, but then the equipment wasn't working properly for the last encore, Rock and Roll. Seems like there is more to the story...just can't see MSG falling apart like that.
Regardless, the 1971 MSG show is one of their best shows in my book.
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No. I meant the fact he died at 32.
Oh, yes I knew that... What does that have to do with the pictures?
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Did you not know that or something?...
Yet you're on a Led Zeppelin forum with Bonham as your picture
So? The dude kinda looks like Bonzo there... I didn't know we had to memorize every piece of clothes a member of the band wore to be in a zeppelin forum.
And so what I have a picture of bonzo on my profile?? He's my favorite drummer. Not everybody knows every god damn thing about zeppelin like you do.
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John Bonham passed away at 32; the beard on the man in the photograph appears to have turned grey.
Alrighty then. Thanks
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Not really a mystery but I just wanted to know if this was Bonzo,on then picture bellow.
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I like plenty of alcoholic beverages. I love Jack Daniels, I like Vodka, but I never got into mixing it with soft drinks like everybody does.
Guinness is my favorite beer. And I don't care if it's a chick drink, I love baileys .
Edit: and obviously Tequila. How could I forget that one!
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Damn, my boy looks creepy here.....
"I have candy in my van"
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Why is Jimmy wearing a wig xD
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Holy crap, Van Halen's first lp blew my mind I couldn't believe the sounds the man was pulling out of his strat!!
My favorite VH albums are the first one and 1984, that album's really energetic. I always pictured Van Halen as the Jimmy Page of the 80's.
I hope they come to my country, they were supposed to last year but the whole tour got canceled for some reason
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Looking back the Fall/Winter of 1980 was pretty rough.....
I was in 8th grade (Chicago suburbs) at the time & school had just started. I remember hearing about his passing the next day at school. Being only in 8th grade I did not know much about Led Zeppelin - but that all changed after the 25th of September that year.
How sad that only a few months later we'd lose John Lennon too. I'd be interested in hearing from folks from that generation. With the loss of Bonzo & Lennon.... what were your thoughts - did you think the whole world had gone to hell, did you hold on to any hope for the future of music in the 1980's?? Thanks!
RIP Bonzo bless you
Don't forget Bon Scott. He died in 1980 too. Tragic year for music.
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Well...only partly recorded in a basement, to be accurate- when it comes to the Exile sessions, "When the legend becomes fact..." etc- but only some of the basic tracks were recorded at Villefranche; a lot of the recording was actually done at Sunset Sound in LA. The album itself is overdub city, but the band and Andy Johns (RIP) actually worked at getting that classic murky Exile sound. Often imitated, never truly duplicated.
What Exile On Main Street really has in common with basements is that it's the Stones version of Bob Dylan's Basement Tapes- both recordings are a total tribute to their roots and influences, and what seems at first as haphazard and ramshackle arrangements are really quite intricate. And arguably never topped by either artist...
Well yeah you're right about that, Keef said in his book that they had to get black chicks to sing here and there when they were laying a few overdubs later in LA,
but my point was that most of the times simplicity is the key, they have very complex guitar parts and riffs here and there that aren't just a happy occasion. I like to imagine that every sound and aspect of that album was thought hard about. Keith and Mick made the best duo in the rock history (guitar playing-wise) and since we're are on the subject I'd like to add that keith is a briliant guitar player, he may not be able to play solos as well as m.t. but he sure knew how to lead a song in the right way and create a unique sound.
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When I first heard Exile the first thing I remember was thinking how good the guitar interplay was in each song. I loved the bluesy feel in Sweet Virginia, the sonority in Tumbling Dice and the cool vibe of Rocks Off. I mean, it was so good! But what really struck me was Shine a Light. That song man... such a briliant tune, and Keef doesn't even play on it. When the solo comes, it's just so powerfull and full of emotion, and that's what I like to remember about the Stones. I love everything about that album. How the songs were made and recorded... Just imagine! the best album ever made was recorded in a basement! That oughta knock your socks off!
It's just so good. And then we all heard Goats Head Soup... Such a brilliant album, Coming Down Again has to be played live!!
The period that the Stones had from 1968-1978 beats almost everything that every band put out.
One of my favorite bands, Stones, Beatles and Zeppelin are the greatest.
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Can you guys verify that this photo is from 4 May 1973?
Also, where is this photo from?
I'm almost positive that the first one is from Atlanta because of Roberts shirt, and I think that the 2nd photo is from one of the LA shows from 1972, The Forum most likely
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God dammit, just let it go... You're questions are always about the same thing and when the awnser's not what you think it is you bitch about it...