1998giventofly
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On 4/7/2020 at 2:41 PM, pujols05 said:
By the way, I don't have a single performance of NQ ranked less than 4 stars. Always a highlight of a '75 show for me (all-time fave is 5-24).
Where would you personally put the 3/21 Seattle version? That one stands out to me the most for that incredible, frenetic grooving solo. Such a different take from the usual.
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Sick! Good stuff man. I have my grandpa's old Dahlquist DQ-10s that I restored last summer running through a Luxman amp. Even with a budget Polk sub the system sounds great, I'll have to put up some pictures soon here.
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No Daltrey? Won't Get Fooled Again? Who Are You? Come on now.
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I know he used the Telecaster pretty extensively on In Through The Out Door as well.
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Impressed with Cleveland's moves in free agency. Love the Conklin and Hooper signings especially, should shore up the offensive line and give Mayfield a truly reliable tight end, Njoku is just subpar at best.
That said, I've been down the hopeful path with them too many times before. Gotta see it before I believe it 🙄
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What was the deal here? Did the author explain the motives behind the pilot doing all this?
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4 hours ago, mickey g said:
It's been almost 50 years, but I remember when HHWCID was released. My friend worked in Record World at the time & I think he also got a hold of a copy Live on Blueberry Hill around the same time. I had an 8-track recorder at the time & he hated the "bassy" tone of prerecorded 8-tracks, so he'd buy the LPs, 45s import EPs etc & have me record them. Anyway, I remember LZII as being the hardest to get a hold of at the time. I guess they just didn't expect the rush to purchase it & didn't produce accordingly for initial release. LZIII, everyone expected it to be "acoustic" because of all the rumors flying around all Summer 1970. When LZIV came out, my buddy rushed over to record it during his lunch break from the store. We played Black Dog & R'n'R & nodded our heads in appreciation. As soon as we heard the first few notes of The Battle of Evermore, I looked at my friend & he just said "Uh oh !" thinking "here we go with the acoustic shit again" Can't say as I remember what our reaction was to Stairway's intro. LOL.
I honestly wish I had been around at the time to experience this all chronologically. There's so many great recordings available today, and hindsight is 20/20, but I just can't begin to imagine what an exciting time it had to have been.
But I gotta ask here, do you remember your reaction to the Stairway solo?
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13 hours ago, John M said:
So anti-commercial. To me it is the perfect send off to this record.
It is so Zeppelin that they took an excellent, very commercial song like Hey Hey, left it off the album, and put it out only as b-side.
10 hours ago, nemophilist said:I guess I like the philosophical approach behind putting hats off on that particular album.
9 hours ago, Brigante said:You want an album to just drift off with a lightweight la-la singalong or for it to end with you going 'WTF was that?!'
You know, I never actually thought of it like this, in all the years since I first heard the album until now. I always was strongly of the opinion that HHWCID would've been the absolute perfect closer, but with some more thought, yeah. This is honestly the most Zeppelin kind of thing to do. Maybe a veiled proverbial middle finger to the press at the time? With such a radical shift in their sound and the scathing reviews the band probably anticipated, I wonder if ending the album so radically was a sort of "in for a penny, in for a pound" kind of deal.
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3 hours ago, Wolfman said:
100% agree. I have always said this too. Hats Off To Roy Harper is the only useless Zep track imo. HHWCID would have been the perfect ending to Zep III. (esp. the way it just ends). HOTRH sounds like an outtake. Great minds think alike.
Exactly! I knew I couldn't be the only one thinking this. I had the album on with my brother yesterday, and HE even said the album would've been far better closed with HHWCID instead of Hats Off. And considering their penchant for ending albums with some seriously awesome songs (How Many More Times, Bring it on Home, Levee, The Ocean), Hats Off is just a weak end to such an amazing album. HHWCID would send it off into the sunset the right way.
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21 hours ago, Strider said:
I remember hearing "Hey Hey What Can I Do" on the radio shortly after I had bought "Led Zeppelin III" in October 1970 and thinking "Wait a minute...where did this song come from and why isn't on 'Led Zep III'?" It wasn't until the DJ came on and ID'd the songs that I found out it was the B-side to the single. I didn't buy a lot of 45 singles but obviously I had to get this one.
i can't tell you how many hours I spent examining the album art and spinning wheel of Led Zeppelin III while playing the record. Led Zeppelin III is one of the Zeppelin albums I have played the most over the years...along with "Physical Graffiti" and "Presence". Sure I played the hell out of IV when it first came out and for most of the '70s. But thanks to radio playing it nonstop, too, I started listening to it less and less. Now when I pull the record out I generally just play Side 2.
As for Led Zeppelin III I made my own special edition cd of III years ago. It features the ten original album tracks plus:
11. "Hey Hey What Can I Do"
12. "Fixing to Die/That's All Right, Mama"
13. "Celebration Day" instrumental take
14. "Friends" Bombay sessions
15. "Bron Yr Aur" Live from L.A. Forum September 4, 1970
16. "That's the Way" Live from Berkeley September 14, 1971
Funny in hindsight that Page wasn't a fan of the artwork or the spinning wheel jacket idea at the time, isn't it? I thought it was brilliant, it's one of my favorite rock album covers.
Interesting choices for the extra tracks! I'm curious why the Berkeley '71 That's the Way instead of the Blueberry Hill one?
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3 hours ago, The Only Way To Fly said:
It must have been something to experience the release of a Zeppelin album in real time. I & II being total knockouts followed by the swerve of III and to compliment the third LP with a non-album track single. If I was a teen in 1970 I'm sure my fandom would have been equal to what I experienced with U2 in the early 1980's and Nirvana in the 1990's.
I can only imagine! On the other hand though, I'm glad to have gotten into this all with all the great live material being so easily accessible rather than having to wait thirty years for a large glut of great tapes to finally start showing up.
I'm curious though, what did you think of Pearl Jam and Soundgarden at the time?
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Hey Hey What Can I Do has always been one of my favorite Zep songs. All four members put on an excellent performance here, with what I think was actually one of Plant's finest vocal performances on record, and the song's vibe matches the third album perfectly. It would have been a knockout closer instead of Hats off to Roy Harper, which seems a bit of a throwaway.
I understand that they only ever intended to have it be the B-side for the Immigrant Song single, but still, this would have been such an amazing way to end the third album. With that, I think III would be right up with II and Physical Graffiti as my favorite Zeppelin albums. Curious about anyone else's opinions on this?
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On 3/29/2020 at 5:14 AM, Brigante said:
Because Jimmy preferred Zeppelin's music to be visceral and emotional, rather than pristine and technically perfect?
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Absolutely without a shadow of a doubt, AC/DC. Still our main choice for get-togethers and nobody complains!
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11 hours ago, Mithril46 said:
Hold on, Isn't Jimmy singing on the chorus parts ? This whole thing is made very complicated because of all the remasters
and remixes, Jimmy could well have either deleted his vocal or studio-pushed it into pitch. I'm a musician, at least to me if Plant is off , it's barely or he is out for 1/2 a second if that climbing to the "proper" pitch. Remember that done properly being out of pitch just a smudge could add personality to a track. Back then Robert's voice had tremendous range and I can't imagine Tangerine being hard for him to nail.
Jimmy did sing them live, but I think the studio is just Plant double tracked. I agree though, another example would be SIBLY. There's a couple sections where his voice is slightly off the exact pitch. It's difficult anyways to hit some of those notes on his screams, but that's a great example of him climbing to the right pitch.
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Might just be the double tracked vocals sounding dissonant on that one part.
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The Osaka boards by far. September '71 is my favorite month of Zeppelin's live shows. 929 itself has been my favorite show since I was younger, finally getting most of it as a pristine board tape was one of the most incredible experiences of my life so far. I also love 928, really enjoyed the incredible performance and hearing it as a board tape was beyond my wildest dreams.
After those though I'd also have to say Seattle '75. Amazing show and crazy to have the whole thing in such incredible quality.
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12 hours ago, June72 said:
I've been trying this one forever, never quite gotten it right. That intro is one of the most beautiful things he's ever played, I'd love to see a tab of it.
Right? Seems like there's some voicing going on there beyond the actual chords he's playing. Still the most unique live intro to the song I've heard and I absolutely love it. I'll keep trying at it and tab out what I think it might be when I get close enough to it!
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Can't quite figure out what Page is doing here in the intro, at least not by ear. I can play something pretty close, but not exact. Wondering if anyone has tabbed that part out or has any idea what he's playing exactly?
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15 hours ago, John M said:
Thanks. I wanted to put all five songs in the poll, but it seems a single post is limited to 4 poll questions. I can put the remaining songs (Stairway, What Is, Moby Dick) in another poll.
Gotcha! I actually prefer the 928 versions for all three of those songs as well. As for Dazed, the one from 929 is a hair better than its 928 counterpart. Both are spectacular performances, but the Pennies from Heaven snippet puts 929 on top, at least for me.
1 hour ago, kirchzep27 said:Just to comment about recent soundboard, it was great to hear a seriously inspired "sibly" and "sth"
They drifted far away from the original inspirations as the decade went on. They could have left those songs as monumental pieces, by not overplaying them. Maybe plant and page should have not played "sibly" in the 90s also. Why not leave it as a strong blues epic of the 70s and move on to variety live...as their records represented in zep and post zep
Agreed! I would've loved to see P&P give Tea for One some run instead of SIBLY. Seems like it would lend itself really well to the orchestral accompaniment.
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Since it's not up there, I'd personally cast my vote for the 928 Stairway.
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11 hours ago, zepster1979 said:
The sound quality was always mediocre, but with this new set we have a much better choice of experiencing this show. I was sceptical too when I first saw this set had to be announced, knowing the fact what the label did with their previous efforts, but as soon as I got my copy I was surprised much of its quality. Of course, it's something for more advanced listeners as the quality is far from perfect, but at least it's better than numerous fan and bootleg releases available in the past.
Agreed, it's more smooth than anything I've heard from the show before. I'm actually impressed with the work they did to it. Surprised too, usually these jokers absolutely obliterate tapes with their "editing" work. Like "Live in the Fairy Tale," great raw tape but they ruined it with an atrocious, completely unnecessary overworking of the sound.
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5 hours ago, Cosmic_Equilibrium said:
Can someone confirm if this release runs at the correct speed? I seem to remember that the original EV release of the 9/29 SB ran about 2% too fast and ledsox corrected it when they released their SB/AUD merge. Does the new 9/28 SB EV release run fast as well? If so I'll wait for the speed corrected version that someone will probably do. Thanks.
I've been playing around with it, the raw tape itself (2CD set) runs 3% too fast. I believe the 3CD set version runs at the correct speed, as does the Led Zeppelin Rarities remaster.
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23 hours ago, nemophilist said:
Did you hear the newest song? It was just uploaded today.
Good catch man, I'm digging this! The production jumped out at me right away, it's awesome. Very promising if the whole album is going to be like this song!
Quarantine poll
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Zep first obviously, then The Who and Pink Floyd for me.