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On 12/4/2019 at 10:58 PM, Pb! said:
I was recently told the copies that had brown print on the outer bag are 1st pressings, and the ones with blue came out later. I don't know if that's true.
I bought all 4 available covers on 20/8/79 (day of release) and mine are all blue so that’s not true.
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1 hour ago, June72 said:
I also highly doubt the existence of full Bath footage or multi-tracks. From my memory, Bath was shot with a single camera from the side of the stage by some dude working on a documentary of sorts. I've never seen or heard any evidence that any more would exist, and I've never seen anyone try to support that conclusion until now.
Can you supply any more evidence than this? Because as of now this seems very out of left field and unlikely.
Page himself confirmed the multi tracks back in ‘78
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27 minutes ago, Sticks of Fire said:
Zero evidence for a full film crew. This subject has been discussed heavily and none of the pictures show an active film crew shooting the entire night with multiple cameras.
Well Peter Whitehead owns the footage, it was believed unusable due to the fact that the lighting wasn't good with Zep playing at dusk. However: "Professor Chibnall said that Whitehead thought the footage was unusable due to insufficient lighting, but “it is usable because, I mean, it can be, it can be restored now. So you can raise those lighting levels, you can see more digitally,” the professor said. "
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20 minutes ago, Sticks of Fire said:
And no, I highly doubt at all that more than a few minutes of Bath shot from a single camera exists. Certainly not the complete show from beginning to end with two or three cameras.
Doubt away my friend but it was a full film crew as far as I know. The film company held the visual rights and Zep the audio rights and there's been several fallings out over the years while trying to come to a deal.
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15 minutes ago, Sticks of Fire said:
References and direct quotes specifically about Bath multitracks?
It's been common knowledge since the 70's. If I get time I'll dig the interview out of my archive at some point and give you it verbatim or photograph the interview (I think it was in MM or NME) and the piece about "DVD"; that's if I still have that one. The '78 interview I have for sure as I was actively archiving press cuttings from 1970 through to the mid 80's, post 80's not everything went in!
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Mine is the hard case 4 record set from DRGM Enterprises/Led Zeppelin Fan Club. Produced by Richard Cole and special thanks to Bonzo for providing the tape haha. Bootleggers eh! No idea what it's worth but then none of my vinyl boots are up for sale.
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9 hours ago, Sticks of Fire said:
Hmm. Not sure about that. Seems like a stretch of the facts. I highly doubt much of Bath (especially in usable and complete type footage) exists. And quite possibly it was never multitracked.
Page revealed in a 1978 interview that it was indeed multi tracked while discussing a potential through the years live album. He referenced tapes going back to "Bath and beyond" right up to the '77 US tour. It's also well known that the Bath festival was their second attempt at a film and that the film maker still has physical and legal possession of the celluloid. In an interview around the time of "DVD" Page stated that the Albert Hall gig was plan B as he wasn't prepared to pay the asking price for the Bath footage.
The potential 1978 triple live retrospective was itself a plan B to keep things rolling until Plant's return to the band. This of course happened resulting in In Through The Out Door so the live album never occurred.
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The Albert Hall show was not the first choice for “DVD”, Page’s preference was the Shepton Mallet show but he couldn’t acquire the footage at an acceptable price so went for RAH as they already owned the celluloid and multi tracks. Fingers crossed this legendary show will surface this year for its 50th anniversary or at least an audio release.
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On 6/5/2008 at 7:51 PM, LukeTheDuke said:
acquire? I think I didn't say that ... we even don't know if this exist so I can't have it or, better, I'm not so lucky enough to have it
No it certainly does not exist. It was planned as an EP also containing Ozone Baby and Darlene. The record was to be available at the bands 2 knebworth shows on 4/8/79 and 11/8/79 but it never happened. The tracks were used on Coda 3 years later.
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2 hours ago, SteveAJones said:
It's not MY version, it's from online and "close enough" (meaning don't take it as gospel) as I said.
It certainly isn’t close enough and a long way from gospel
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On 1/19/2020 at 12:12 AM, SteveAJones said:
There can be no denying, that the wind'll shake 'em down
And the flat world's flying, and there's a new plague on the land"There can be no denying, that the WE'll REALLY shake 'em down
And the FLAG WE'RE flying, IS THE new FLAG OF the land"Many other lines are wrong in your version too (such as "seen seven wonders" and "traversed the planet") but I have no answers for these.
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On 1/11/2020 at 6:33 PM, Fredbloggs said:
Interesting topic,are there any photographs available of Jimmy`s shop Equinox aka "The Equinox (Booksellers and Publishers)Ltd" in Holland Street W8 at the time he owned it? I grew up in Holland Park in the 1960s-1970s very close to both Equinox and his house The Tower House but Holland Street is very small and only ever had about 5 or 6 shops in it so I never bothered to explore them at the time.
P.S. Whilt I was searching for pictures of the shop I found this book which was published by it twice in both 1974 and 1975 https://openlibrary.org/publishers/The_Equinox_(Booksellers_and_Publishers)_Ltd
I also found this little titbit about the shop http://www.shadyoldlady.com/location.php?loc=2645
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10 hours ago, SteveAJones said:
From memory...Peter Grant's tirade? Pittsburgh. The nut chased by security? Baltimore. The security guard letting two fans in? New York.
They didn't perform in Philadelphia in 1973.
I meant Pittsburg; where the airstrip and motorcade scenes were shot. The backstage stuff was Baltimore. Some of the onstage footage was actually film of them miming at Shepperton, exactly how much is debatable.
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The BBC sessions were probably the most bootlegged due to their pro quality. These boots probably didn’t sell that well in the UK as we all taped them ourselves from the radio. I actually have an official BBC Transcription Services album of the Paris Theatre gig that was used for broadcast on R1 in the 70’s and 80’s.
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Yes it’s a studio recording for BBC Radio (Top Gear I think), it’s a Robert Johnson cover. The BBC’s Maida Vale studios certainly had multitrack facilities, it was a pioneering complex with one of its studios boasting the largest studio space in Europe.
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All my first presses which include a turquoise LZ1, a do what though wilt/so mote it be LZIII and a pecko duck/porky LZIV. All these sound way superior to any digital remaster.
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If memory serves Philadelphia
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For me it’s zeppelin at their best, maximum energy. Four Sticks and When The Levee Breaks are the two best songs on the album.
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Remember that The Song Remains The Same is just a film and as such is cut to give the impression that they step out of the limo and onto the stage. Sound checks will have occurred at every show. The film is just a representation of a show. It was actually filmed over 3 nights and the backstage sequences were not even filmed at the New York shows.
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On 2/25/2018 at 7:47 PM, brothercrossthewater2112 said:
im not a expert on this but ive heard that they did something wrong on the credits for the "lemon song", i dont know if mines the same. would like answers, thanks.
Yes the early pressings of LZII credited "The Lemon Song" on the sleeve and "Killing Floor" on the label. The intention was to call it "The Lemon Song" however the irony is that "Killing Floor" is actually the correct title of the song. Another attempt by Zep to take credit for someone else's, in this case Chester Burnett, work.
Jimmy Page as Executive Producer
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Indeed which probably explains why it’s the worst produced Zep album by a country mile.