Michael Fry
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Cool idea. What an epic release that would be... sigh...
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Always a joy to see new footage. Thank you!
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Well, I'd forgotten how much I changed the track list to be honest - quite a few original selections got dropped, didn't they! It was a while ago but I do remember selecting songs for a few different reasons:
Firstly, if the song was an amazing performance from an otherwise mediocre show (e.g. Stairway To Heaven from Seattle 1977-7-17);
Secondly, if I had selected a different night's performance of the song for one of the other compilations but I felt that the performance was so good it still deserved recognition (e.g. Trampled Underfoot from Earls Court 1975-5-24 which is pretty much on a par with the one from the following night that made it onto the Earls Court comp);
Thirdly, if there was something significant about the song (e.g. When The Levee Breaks from Bloomington 1975-1-18 which is the only soundboard performance that has turned up so far and therefore was included even though the show is weaker than other 1975 shows).
The soundcheck performances were selected because they're so much fun to listen to and are the best of the bunch from the soundcheck but perhaps they should have been placed as bonus tracks on the 1973 compilation, freeing up space for songs I ultimately left out. A few of the dropped songs ended up on other compilations such as Europe 1973 but I can't remember now why I dropped some of the others, I'm afraid! Maybe I should make discs 7 & 8!
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On 5/10/2023 at 8:46 AM, right-there said:
Hi Michael.
Can I ask why you have passed on February 12 1975 as a 'go to' amongst the best of 1975? "In My Time Of Dying" picks up an honourable mention, but tracks from a set that once had fans gushing are otherwise not featured.
Best regards, Michael McGennan
Well, it's all down to Plant's voice, I'm afraid. Remember my mission statement for the 50th Anniversary Set was creating something that was near to official release standard. Once Plant's voice had almost recovered in mid-March and May 1975, it was quite easy to drop in a tiny edit from a different night to replace the odd vocal crack here and there for those performances, hence my preference for those in the compilations. However, the Feb 12th show you refer to has so many vocal flubs, I felt it would have been a rather more dishonest job to get them up to releasable standard, not to mention massively time-consuming! I remember playing a few bits of the Feb 12 concert to a more casual fan and he did grimace quite a few times in response to the vocals, which led me to think it wasn't up to standard, as much as I hate to admit it! That soundboard is pretty unforgiving and the well-known sbd/aud matrix doesn't do much to soften the squeaks and hoarseness. True, it is mostly a wonderful show (apart from Page's playing taking a bit of a downturn after the DAC bow solo) but it just wasn't good enough, like many of the February sbd shows, unfortunately.
Hope that explains everything.
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13 hours ago, right-there said:
Hi Michael. I'd very much appreciate the link, too, please.
Links sent. Cheers!
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6 hours ago, hf21 said:
This sounds amazing. Can I also have a link please?
Thank you!
Message sent. Cheers!
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4 hours ago, CamAaron said:
Could I have a link, please? I'm very excited to listen to this compilation! Thanks in advance.
Links sent. Enjoy!
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Many thanks for the heads up, Steve. What a great bit of history!
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3 hours ago, SuperDave said:
Definitely looking forward to hearing this one, even if it's just the YouTube version. I'm sure I can download it eventually.
EVSD's new Wild West Side boot of the show is available to download on that well known 101 site for Guitars. Get it quick though coz it's on WeTransfer so it will expire in a few days!
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Are we to assume that this is a different taper to the one who recorded Bring It On Home from the same gig (which has been floating around for years)?
Bring It On Home is pretty bad but this has very nice sound indeed. Surely can't be a tape generation thang.
Anyway, thank you!
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Links sent, guys!
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Would love a link please, Steve. Cheers, mate!
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I see what you mean, Steve. So strange how the artefacts disappear when the instruments are combined. Are you familiar with Lord Reith's stereo remixing/demixing of the '62-'67 Beatles recordings which he posts on the beatlegdb.com forum? Wonder if you guys use the same software. He's also doing an invaluable service for the fan community with great results, like yourself. Makes me also wonder what technology is just around the corner for public use! Looking forward to hearing in a couple of weeks what Giles Martin has achieved with Revolver using Peter Jackson's Get Back tech.
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18 hours ago, SteveZ98 said:
It depends on how loud the vocals are in the mix. The most extreme example of low vocals I can think of is the 8/8/69 show were the recorder seems like it was stuck inside one of Jimmy's cabinets. In that recording, Robert is often completely inaudible, so there's nothing the software can do. In cases where he can be heard distinctly but his vocals are in the background, the software can usually identify his singing and put it in a separate track. In those cases, I can raise the level of the vocals. However, whenever the software runs it creates a kind of weird sonic artifact on each track. It's not usually noticeable when you mix all four tracks (vocals, drums, bass, and other) together, but if you crank up one of them significantly louder than the others, you can hear the weird noise. Because of that, there's a tradeoff between raising the vocals and keeping the noise from becoming distracting. Another option is to use a lot of compression on the final mix, but that can suck the life out of the performance, so it's not a magic bullet.
Many thanks for such a detailed answer on this, Steve. Shame about the artefact but at least your method may give an improved balance to a few shows.
I hope people will forgive me for suggesting this but I've often wondered if the opposite could be done on those 1975 soundboards where Plant is struggling vocally. Taking his voice down in the mix on those painful notes and adding a bit of reverb on it might make certain gigs way more enjoyable. When I made my Best of 1975 compilation, I discovered that some of the '75 boards have such a similar EQ and balance, I was able to fix some Plant vocal cracks by editing in the same beat/bar from another night without it being noticeable. Felt like sacrilege though (even if Page did the same thing with TSRTS, HTWWW and the DVD) so perhaps treating Plant's vocals would be a better solution. Anyhow, thanks for all your hard work, Steve.
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Question for Steve-Z:
Steve, is the technology you use able to fix a balance problem where something is too low in the mix? For example, for some reason the vocals on Communication Breakdown from Fillmore West 1969-4-27 are way lower than the rest of the gig to the point where you can hardly hear Plant. Wondered if something like that was easily fixable. Cheers!
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Cheers. Had it in mp3 thanks to Black Beauty but I'd given up hope having it in wav. Much appreciated!
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Audio synced footage from a different YT channel as original was removed.
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16 hours ago, Danneman Lundström said:
Does someone still have a link to the footage? Seems to have been wiped off YouTube.
Link sent with others in 1970 folder.
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Link sent with New York.
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Links sent, guys.
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23 minutes ago, SteveZ98 said:
Yeah, this is amazing. I can't imagine how much work it must have been. And if you like this, check out Badgeholder Blues from ledzepfilm, which is a similar kind of project for the 1977 tour.
I'll certainly second that, Steve. Badgeholder Blues raised the bar quite considerably!
WhatIsAndWhatShouldBe states that his Best Concert Ever project took 300+ hours over 7 months and it sure looks like it. A very professional job indeed.
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I know this recently showed up on the "What Show Or Live Song Are You Listening To Now" topic but I just thought this mammoth achievement deserved more attention in its own right.
We're so lucky to be part of such a dynamic and proactive community. The Dogs Of Doom team and GR's guys make being a fan in the 2020s an absolute joy. It hasn't been this exciting since the CD revolution of the 1990s. However, recent advances in technology have also been a game-changer. The matrix and remastering projects from the likes of Nite Owl and SteveZ98 blow my mind, as do all the restored and audio/video-synced clips that continue to appear. So when I stumbled across this, I figured that this guy deserved recognition alongside all these other wonderful people.
5 hours (!!!) of well-edited brilliance. Check it out and show your appreciation if you like it. I certainly hope Mr. Jimmy Page comes across it!
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Sent a link to a folder with this and New York.
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PM sent with links to this and Philly, y'all. Enjoy!
Vancouver 1971 - 2nd Aud Source, with missing tracks
in Led Zeppelin Live
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What a wonderful find. To have an incomplete source of enjoyable quality completed by ANOTHER incomplete enjoyable source for such a great gig, with the bonus of there being a rare track ! How lucky are we??!! Super hyped about listening to this show from start to finish. Thank you so much to the taper (so sad they passed and didn't see the pleasure this will bring to us all) and his mate who did the transfer.