SamoKodela
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16 hours ago, Sathington Willoughby said:
The amount of songs, where the lift is very direct and obvious is very small, far, far less then some youtube videos are trying to suggest and I think only such song count and beyond Zep II, there are almost no such songs!
Things like Communication breakdown and How many more times don' t come in question. Riffs in CB and HMMT are Jimmy's and melodies are original, so are the lyrics, especially in CB. There are many similar examples. So I think it is a small amount because only things like Dazed and confused and Whole lotta love count, despite the original things added. You can't count things like intro to Rock and roll or The Lemon song or Bring it on home even, they could have left the intro/outro out. But there are certainly lots of little bits and pieces and lyrics verses in many songs, that are integrated into the whole original picture.
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It's like music!
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It wasn't really Led Zeppelin, not for Robert Plant, not for many, it was a one off show for Ahmet Ertegun, done with the only acceptable replacement of John Bonham, for Robert to atleast call it Led Zeppelin for one night.
Add all the bad memories, the fact that his voice changed, the pressure of keeping the quality every night and all the tragedies that happened and it's even more clear why Robert wanted to continue his very successful solo carrer, which he would most likely have without Led Zeppelin, on a smaller scale. It also shows his class and that he is not a cheap money grabber.
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31 minutes ago, gibsonfan159 said:
Excellent musicianship, but my brain will never accept an organ as a rock instrument. It's one of the reasons I get so turned off by the band and I'm so glad Jones used it sparingly.
Well it can be very loud and powerful. I understand someone doesn't like it, but I always thought Zepppelin showed any instrument could be a rock instrument.
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Just because Blackmore is technically better, it doesn't make him a better player. For some yes, for some no, he certainly never touches me with his solos the way Page so diversely does and I never percepted Page and Plant as weak spots in the early days, just not so technically polished and because I like that, post 72 for vocals and post 75 for guitar never sounded particulary bad to me either.
So I guess if you are more into exotic diversity of complex, layered compositions without technical perfection then Zeppelin is for you. And Zeppelin jams are also much more composed, they changed the composition quite a bit every night, but they mostly expanded it and kept building a composition within the solo itself, while keeping it an integral part of an excellent song.
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When comparing live albums, you should compare How the west was won and Made in Japan, if there is any point in comparing anyway, or compare Zeppelin's jams in Europe 1973, or even most of the early tours. Zeppelin are at least equal live, in my opinion better.
And I only know four albums from the most classic Deep purple line up, but these are the kind of songs they pretty much wrote all the time, while Zeppelin
wrote all sorts of complex compositions like The rain song, Ten years gone, Achilles last stand, Kashmir all sorts of acoustic songs and so on and Deep purple themselves said, that their sound is based almost entirely on early Zeppelin, they just expanded the jams in their own style a bit.
And even if Zeppelin did borrow a SMALL amount of music, they made it very original, while Deep purple were heavily based on Zeppelin and even something extraordinary like Child in time has the intro copied note for note exactly from a song called It's a beautiful day by Bombay calling.
Don't get me wrong, Deep purple are a great band, great virtuosos, very clean in technique, great keyboards with an original idea to make them very loud and a great singer.
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Still waiting for spring after huge amounts of snow and quite some wind and very low temperatures, but mostly having quite a good time lately, having a nice warm home.
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I think the companion discs bring all sorts of details, listen carefully!
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Yeah, yeah, my rather big, stupid nobody's mouth again.
I don't think substances that have no purpose for persons functioning are any good.
Some goes for many medications . Unless you truly have something very serious(take very good care who you consult) don't take it, unfortunately it's poison in many ways, the side effects, it's a relief to know they haven't hurt you much at all. A quite happy feeling yeah.
Live a healthy, happy life in good connection with other humans.
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36 minutes ago, SteveAJones said:
Whole life used to be a whole lot shorter...life expectancy for US male in 1900 was 46.3, woman 48.3. Even lower in many other countries. You'd marry, raise your children to adulthood and die soon after.
I just mentioned hereditary and financial reasons as strong, sometimes too strong motivators. Not too say money isn't important, it's just hard to get when you can't communicate your ideas and can't sell anything to anybody.
I was trying to say that a good relationship should be the main reason and things mentioned above in this post are motivators that should not be too strong, other I mentioned above mostly work against it, while a natural tendeny might be staying together a few years until society and culture started to develope deeper reasons.
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I think no matter what, rock stars did hurt other people just like everybody whether they did it more or less I don't know, but success certainly enabled them that.
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50 minutes ago, Bozoso73 said:
Easier said than done. Certainly when Percy got sick in the first weeks of the 75 tour shuffling around a date or two is one thing but to take a LONG break as you stated in the middle of the 1975 tour of the United States would never happen.
I'm talking about October 1972, but there has already been a long discussion about it in other topic.
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8 hours ago, gibsonfan159 said:
Man, I've been reading "The Garden Tapes" by Eddie Edwards and it's kinda blowing my mind how much editing went on for both the film and soundtrack. It honestly makes me lose some respect for them. Hell, even the Plantations were spliced from different nights. The whole thing is more or less a sham. It's really hard now to say "The version from TSRTS is the best" because....that's not an actual performance.
Most of the instrumental sections are from one night only, it was mostly for the vocals. Now once you got to 1977.....
There is something rather stupid in not taking a long break imidiately after you start to have voice problems,
but it's still not quite as stupid as many times not listening to other instruments when you are recording some instrument. Now who could that be? Not Led Zeppelin for sure!
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The mix was really bad at first, which made it sound weird and the fantasy sequences were alright for me at first, then I started to perceive them as amateurish and B type movie thing, now I really like them, they are more about the message then the quality of execution. And Bonzo and Jonesy really get on a few times, Page is great and who says the singer has to sing that high right ta the beginning. It's good.
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I think it was hard for people to figure it out, when contraception and medications against sexual diseases came around and women started to have
jobs and the whole idea of single parent being able to raise the child came around.
Led Zeppelin were well functioning at the start, it's unbelievable that Jimmy Page was a full scale genius visionare for the whole band at 24, even if I don't like him using terms like superstars, amazing and great too much and that he knew exactly what to do to be heard, but I guess he had to be like that to do things right.
So they took those girls and I heard most of the time they were nice to them. These days it's back to sharing your life with someone and getting attached to one person, which I guess was always part of the human spirit(maybe being together for the whole life is a bit too society influenced for hereditary reasons, maybe Jones knows, hope not heh) and couple helping each other more. And I guess there is no time for more then one person really!
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Well I don't know, maybe there is such a thing as a rock and roll attitude that these guys had, so perhaps expecting to tell it kinder and with more content that explains it is maybe a bit too much.
But I suspect it's just not the style of music, singing and lyrics he likes.
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7 minutes ago, greengrass said:
Lets not and say we did
We did!
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3 minutes ago, greengrass said:
Funny! Let's strictly discuss his ties!
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4 hours ago, thatguynamedjosh247 said:
i absolutely LOVE III!
Nice! I would like to know more about it!
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2 minutes ago, SteveAJones said:
Well, actually the plot thickens. Come to find out the demo crew was sub-contracted by the Detroit-based Adamo Group. Adamo did the Tiger Stadium demolition a few years ago. Anyway, Adamo claims there was a wiring problem which may have resulted in some of the beams not being severed. So I guess one would say this isn't a fail, but it is a disappointment.
Yeah fail might sound a bit unkind, but it's said only 10 percent did not explode and even if some was at key locations it's actually a failed demolition and perhaps it wouldn't even collapse if all the explosives would explode. I'm not saying it's their fault necessarily, if someone sabotaged it, but let's hope it all turns out well. Once they decided they will do it then they will do it, let's hope they get it fixed without anyone getting hurt and some stadiums are not the most culturally important buildings being torn down because of over importance of profit I guess. There are others that are much more important, but I think Albert hall, Madison square garden and LA forum will not get demolished, let's hope.
Have a nice day Steve.
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1 minute ago, Bong-Man said:
Getting that coverage in Slovenia eh ?
No doubt about it:
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9 minutes ago, SteveAJones said:
Oh I know that only the upper part that was holding the roof was suppose to collapse, but never heard that they would actually wait for gravity to
come along and take over, that's quite weird, I wonder how long will they wait, I hope this guy knows what he is talking about or is he just trying to make himself look professional because their project failed?!
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I guess the message is important enough it deserves another post, just to avoid all misuderstandings.
Nothing collapsed except a few support collums!
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The rain falling on the book a bit, like he doesn't care that much for such visual memories, so that can hold the umbrella for someone who is not there? John Bonham I guess.
That is just some weird thinking by me, but if that is the case I fully support it and especially Robert's gesture. It's about living in the present, that what he is always about.