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  1. A while back in my LZ facebook group.  Someone was saying that Zep was more of a project and that they were not really friends as much.  With the exception of Bonzo and Robert.  Whats your take.  Did they all really have to be friends.  What does friendship in a band mean and does it matter?

     

  2. It depends on how we look at it.  I add Page and Plant solo tours with Zep material in.  So take that away.  Its a different story.  P/P  and Plant solo have done Lots of Zep material that never got done with Zep.  So we now have Custard Pie/Hey Hey What Can I do/FOr Your Life-which at the O2 to me was better than the studio version.  A Carasolsambra in a medley/In the Light the start/Wanton Song/Living Loving Maid-solo Plant/Good Times Bad Times.  There are some others.  

  3. Whats your take on the hard rockers of Zep 3 in terms of progression of songs style and how Zep were evolving with the songs.  So thats Immigrant Song/Celebration Day/Out on the Tiles.  I guess you can add the Blues of Since I've been loving you as well.

    For me this is the album where I hear Zep getting a bit slick. 

    Robert's voice is now more that hammer of the gods wail.  He almost sounds country if that makes sense.  His vocal diction has changed.  Almost like Zep got a newer singer.  

    Jimmy feels more warrior in his guitar tone.  No real sorcery style licks.   Stinging solos and more precise.  Less of the supposed Sloppy sounds that we hear live.

    Bonzo is very on top of thing.  That behind the beat feel to me only shows up in Since I've been loving you.  

    John Paul Jones.  Love his bass, but it feels like his Bass line don't have that soul full melody of the first two Zep albums.  Feels like he is staying within the lines of his Bass for the most part.  There is no songs that have that soul full funky bass lines, where you can sing along with it.  For me JPJ early bass lines is what I would want if I was playing in a rock band.  Love Zep 3.  Its an A grade.  Zep 3 feels more like a happy album, with Since I've been loving you feeling the most heaviest.  

     

  4. Zep was more Complex.  I felt like Eddie seems to be able to flow a bit better than Page on his instrument.  I don't know how to say this but if Page was a superhero.  He would be Green Lantern.  Where he can make constructs.  EVH was The Flash.  The powers are already there.

     

  5. To your ears.  Whats the difference between the two as players?

    I feel like Page's guitar playing he is digging for sounds.  Eddie just has it and spits it out.   Its almost like Eddie is not thinking about what he plays.  Page is always The Commander thinking about his next move.  Page is sloppy, but I love it.  Eddie is more precise and he can't disguise his sound.  Even when he is not tapping.  I feel like Eddie's better at the fast songs than slow songs.  Page is a Blues player with a bit of magic.  

    They are both lead players in their bands in terms of songwriters.  I feel like If Eddie made a song.  He would write it in one form including solos.  VH would splice in drums/vocals/bass around the guitar.  In Zep.  They pieced together music and jammed songs out.  

    I feel like Eddie comes off as the guitar is easy to play.  Page does not struggle, but he has to think about things a little bit more.  

     

  6. What songs do you think are counterparts to each other with Zep/Sabbath.  Like This would be Sabbath's Stairway if you will.

    Zep- Communication Breakdown to Sabbath would be Paranoid.

    Dazed and Confused to Sabbath would be Black Sabbath.

    Whole Lotta Love to Sabbath is Iron Man.

    Black Dog to Sabbath is War Pigs.

    No Quater to Sabbath is Planet Caravan.

  7. Presence to me is hard and ruff.  Its Zep in a bad mood.  Not one really happy song on there.  ITTOD sounds a little bit happy.  Its hard to connect ITTOD with the band that made Zep 1 to PG.  I guess each band is different.  To me its like Zep really aged after Presence.  Someone here said it a long time ago.  ITTOD sounds like Zep aged 10 yrs from Presence.  

  8. Whats the big difference between these two albums for you?  

    For me.  Presence feels more connected to the first 6 albums.  ITTOD.  It feels like Zep aged.  No longer kids if you get my meaning.  Presence has more solid Riffs/Solos.  The songs come off as darker and not in a good way.  ITTOD riffs are ok, but not spectacular.  I never hear anyone cover this era of Zep.  Fool in the Rain is the only song I hear on the radio.  I can't belive in the 3 yrs between both alums resulted in a sonically weak album in ITTOD.  

    Mind you.  At least it feels like Zep are right in time and they tried not to do a throwback.   I see these two albums in the bargin bin at music shops.  Presence my fave is For Your Life/ALStand/ ITTOD-Fool in the Rain/In the Evening/I'm Gonna Crawl.

    On Presence at least Zep sound powerful, but dark.  ITTOD.  Bonzo still sound strong.  The others not so much.  

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