RoyFan Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Just came across a couple of people on the internet today that said they heard (though unfortunately don't have any specifics)that Jones came up with the "houses of the holy" riff...Anyone know anything about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the chase Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Hi I don't think so. HOTH is credited to Page and Plant only. I'm almost positive Jones came up with the main riff in The Ocean though. Maybe they were thinking of that. All four are credited and it sounds like a bass riff to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NealR2000 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Had JPJ played any part in the creation of the riff, he would most certainly have received songwriting credit. His most famous riff that he created was Black Dog. For many years, I just assumed that this was another of Jimmy's guitar riffs, only to find out Jones was the creator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler19 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Had JPJ played any part in the creation of the riff, he would most certainly have received songwriting credit.While Jimmy Page was not as bad as the Stones about assigning songwriting credit, he wasn't very generous either. It's agreed upon by Jones and Page that Jones had a decent size part in writing Kashmir (one of the descending bits) but has no songwriting credit on that song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NealR2000 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 While Jimmy Page was not as bad as the Stones about assigning songwriting credit, he wasn't very generous either. It's agreed upon by Jones and Page that Jones had a decent size part in writing Kashmir (one of the descending bits) but has no songwriting credit on that song.I hope that wasn't the case, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was. Jimmy had a pretty big reputation as a cheapskate, and splitting credits might have been something he didn't do in those grey areas of song creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Duck Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I hope that wasn't the case, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was. Jimmy had a pretty big reputation as a cheapskate, and splitting credits might have been something he didn't do in those grey areas of song creation.Didn't John Bonham also receive songwriting credit for Kashmir? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the chase Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Page and Bonham wrote and recorded the guitar and drums while Jones was taking a leave of absence. Jones came in later and added Bass, Mellotron and wrote the string arrangements.. His contributions to Kashmir are what make it their greatest song, but they were added after the initial idea was written and recorded. It sucks but that's the way it's done.Credits are odd. Sting could write something just strumming his acoustic and humming the vocal melody. Stewart Copeland could play the most interesting parts for the song but it was Sting's original idea that receives all the credit.The JPJ non credit that bothers me most is Ramble On. His Bass line is melodic and probably the most recognizable part of the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirchzep27 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Jones is very heavy in the houses of the holy riff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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