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ZepHead315

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    Nitpicking Page 1973

    So I'm assuming for this year you're going to be grading on a steeper curve given the level of Page's playing? So for example this OTHAFA is a B+ by 73 standards, yet would be an A or A+ by 75 or 77 standards, is that correct? I'm really looking forward to your breakdowns from this year and I'm particularly curious what you think of Chicago. Is it bad by 73 standards, or is it bad in general (if you take Plant's voice out of the equation cause let's be honest, he sounds like shit at that show)? Regardless, there's a ton of gems from throughout this year. The last year where the band (minus Plant) was firing on all cylinders at a consistent rate.
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    My personal source mix/compilation of Tokyo 9/23/71

    Yeah it might just be that some of them aren't on silver disc. Or it could be they're duplicates. That thread is kind of out of date so who knows? Japan's always been more lax when it comes to bootlegging from what I understand. Like I said, I'm wondering if there's more out there from the other shows. We already had the "Super Stars" release of the 24th show which contained a new never before heard source. I wonder if there's an excellent audience recording out there for one of the other shows. I mean, what we have now isn't bad for the most part, but I'd LOVE for there to be an audience source out there for, say, the 29th, that is on par with Source 5 or Source 7 from this show.
  3. FLAC download: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ivmk5EXNO7M5FfLKT4ZyRPwRVUO1esJL One of my favorite shows by Led Zeppelin has been their first show in Tokyo, Japan on September 23rd, 1971. Yet, strangely, I’ve never been satisfied with any release of this show. There are a whopping 13 sources circulating for this show. The three best ones are widely considered to be Source 7, found on Watchtower’s “Rock Carnival”, Source 5, found on Empress Valley’s “First Attack Of The Rising Of The Sun”, and Source 3, found on TDOLZ’s “Reflection From A Dream”. Each of these sources have several glaring flaws that prevent any of them from being definitive. For one, they’re all incomplete, but there are other issues as well: Source 7 has a great portion (between song banter, Celebration Day, That’s the Way, and everything from What Is and What Should Never Be onwards) that has undergone extensive noise reduction and EQ. The midrange is too bright and the music doesn’t “breathe”. Source 5 has pitch problems during the acoustic set, with some minor tape warbling here and there. And Source 3 has the bass and drums sounding a bit thin, plus it’s just overall slightly inferior to the other two sources. With this in mind, I decided to combine the best of all three sources in order to give the best-sounding and most complete version of this show possible. I really must credit blackmikito over on Royal Orleans for giving me this idea. He posted in this show’s entry on the “What Place To Rest The Search” forum on what his ideal version of this show would be. In essence, I followed his guide: I used Source 7 for the first third or so of the show, Source 3 for the majority of the acoustic set, and Source 5 for the remainder of the show. Below is a more detailed examination of how I mixed the sources. Key: * – Rock Carnival ** – First Attack Of The Rising Of The Sun *** - Reflection From A Dream 1. Introduction **/* 2. Immigrant Song * 3. Heartbreaker */** (minor patch to Source 5 when Source 7 becomes muffled for a few brief seconds) 4. Since I’ve Been Loving You * 5. Black Dog * 6. Dazed and Confused * 7. Stairway to Heaven * 8. Celebration Day ** 9. Bron-Y-Aur Stomp/That’s the Way *** 10. Going to California ***/* 11. What Is and What Should Never Be ** 12. Moby Dick ** 13. Whole Lotta Love ** 14. Communication Breakdown ** NOTE 1 – Much of the between song banter for tracks 2-7 were patched by Source 5, owing to Source 7 having undergone extensive noise reduction and EQ for those portions, as mentioned above. NOTE 2 – I did NOT EQ these sources in any way. All I did was adjust the sound in order to make for a smoother and more balanced listening experience. Feel free to listen to and share this wherever you want. If you don’t like it, there’s plenty of other versions of this show that should suit you. Enjoy! YouTube link (minus Stairway):
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    Pontiac Silverdome Footage

    Not sure if anyone's messaged you regarding this, but there's only one audience recording from this show currently in circulation. It's distant, but the atmosphere is great. If you have bootleg ears, it's a pretty damn good performance. Here's a YouTube upload of it minus Stairway.
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    Nitpicking Page 1977

    Another excellent review. I agree that this show is nowhere near the LA shows, but I don't think it's quite as bad as many make it out to be. Jimmy's erratic yes. Plant is hoarse yes. But Bonham's on fire and Jones (vocals notwithstanding) is solid as usual. And there are some good highlights like NQ, TYG, the acoustic set, and STH. I prefer the audience recordings for this cause they mask a lot of the flaws and the gig actually comes across as being pretty good. What do you plan on doing next? Tempe perhaps?
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    My personal source mix/compilation of Tokyo 9/23/71

    My pleasure ALB! Glad you enjoyed it! I was surprised that, to my knowledge, no one's done a mix like this, cause it offers the best and most consistent sound imho. According to this thread there are 13, though I don't know if some of them are duplicates or whatever. It's crazy to think that there were THAT many tapers in the audience. Makes me wonder/hope that there's more circulating sources for the other Japan shows out there somewhere. Perhaps some really good quality ones too!
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    What show or live song are you listening to now?

    I put together my own "Frankenstein" edit of Dazed from the Euro 73 tour. I used Vienna, Hamburg, Essen, and Offenburg, and combined my favorite parts into one "ultimate" version. My editing isn't that good, but I think it turned out pretty well.
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    What happened to Plant's voice in 1972 ?

    You're welcome! Let me know what you think!
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    What happened to Plant's voice in 1972 ?

    If you're interested, I did my own source mix/compilation of this show. Here's a FLAC download for it: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Ivmk5EXNO7M5FfLKT4ZyRPwRVUO1esJL Flying Rock Carnival 1971 Complete is a good release, but it still has problems. Here's a detailed description of how I compiled the sources together, as well as the pros and cons of each source/release. Also, while it's been a while since I listened to the show, Plant nails the "lady" line at Sydney 2/27/72 IIRC.
  10. I'm compiling together a personal "best of" compilation for the 1973 North American tour and I'm undecided about what version of the song to pick. Ideally, I'd like a combination of good Plant vocals and a good Page solo, although given the era the solo ultimately has more weight of course. Soundboard or audience doesn't matter, although I'd like the quality to be decent if possible. What are the best versions from this tour?
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    Best OTHAFA from the 1973 North American tour?

    Seriously, if anything, this thread taught me that half the people on here don't read the whole title! Thanks Sue, Strider, and Gibsonfan for your recommendations. I think I'll go with Seattle. Mobile would be a good choice, except Plant's voice on there is quite shaky, and I want a good balance like I said.
  12. We've talked a lot about the best recordings of the band, but what about recordings that may not be perfect, but have some sort of unique quality that draws you in? For example, one of my favorite recordings of the band is the 8/21/71 LA show. It's not the best by any means, but I LOVE how Bonzo's drums come across on that. Each hit on his drums sounds like an explosion or a cannon going off. Honestly, it may be the best recording I've ever heard of him in terms of showing how LOUD he sounded. I also enjoy the 4/28/77 Cleveland, 6/11/77 New York, and 7/17/77 Seattle audience tapes because of how boomy they sound. They're so atmospheric and the band sounds absolutely massive. You get a sense of the vastness of the arenas as well as just how many people were in the crowd. It's a great vibe.
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    What happened to Plant's voice in 1972 ?

    What specifically do you think "changed" from 1970? I don't detect any noticeable difference. And I'd disagree that it was all downhill from Belfast. The only change was him no longer singing Black Dog high, which I think was out of choice, not because he couldn't sing it anymore. If anything I'd say the turning point was LA 8/21/71. The cracks (both literally and figuratively) were starting to appear after that and while he occasionally had a show afterwards where he sounded like his old self (ex. Tokyo 9/24/71, Manchester 11/24/71, Sydney 2/27/72), he never was that consistent again.
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    1980 Audience Recordings

    For Frankfurt, seek out the Liriodendron matrix. He did a superb job on it. It sounds like an official release. The fact that it's probably the best performance from the tour is an added bonus.
  15. Lol I wouldn't go that far. For one, sometimes it's been a while since I listened to the shows when I do those compilations. For example, I recently put together a "best of Earls Court" compilation, and I had completely forgotten about Page disappearing at the end of Bron-Y-Aur Stomp on the 18th, or the somewhat sloppy Kashmir on the 18th. I'm going based off of memory and sometimes my memory of a show as a whole makes me biased and put in more songs from that performance than they deserve. I certainly haven't gone through them in as much detail as you have!
  16. Is that the Slumpymatrix? If so, I'd actually say you'd be better off without it. They did a very sloppy job, and the two sources go out of sync quite a bit. If you're sticking to the soundboard (technically it's a video soundtrack, but it sounds just like a 77 soundboard), I'd recommend Godfather's "Conquering Kingdome". Personally, I prefer the audience recording. It's good enough to hear the instruments clearly, and it preserves the atmosphere and elation of the crowd. I have the JEMS transfer of the "Bill B" source and it sounds pretty good, on the level of the 4/28 Cleveland show. You should be able to find either one on Guitars101. If you can't find them, just PM me.
  17. Glad to hear you enjoyed my remaster! I tried to make the music sound more lively and have Page's guitar have more "aggressiveness" to it and I think I did a pretty good job...if I do say so myself! I mostly agree with your analysis above. Always thought this was the weakest Earls Court show by a fair margin and never understood those who consider it to be the best of the run (or one of the best of '75 for that matter). I'm particularly in agreement with you on No Quarter. Solid, but nothing on that version really blows me away. The 18th version smokes it. The only real surprise to me was how you didn't like Dazed. This is actually one of the few versions from '75 that, imho at least, doesn't drag at any point. It's pretty tight and focused for the time period. Then again, I may be biased because it was actually the first live version of Dazed I ever saw or heard, even before TSRTS. I caught the footage on Youtube, which was split into four parts, and I was quite mesmerized by it. Page's bow solo was pretty eerie and spooky but in the best way. I don't know, maybe I just have nostalgia for it. You never forget your first love! What do you plan on doing after the last Earls Court show?
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    Iron Maiden and Judas Priest

    Maiden has the more consistent discography, but Priest has more variety. For me this would be a question of eras. If we're talking 80s Priest versus 80s Maiden, Maiden wins hands down for me. But if we're talking 70s Priest versus 80s Maiden, it's more neck and neck. I don't know if I can choose. They're both great bands. I'll leave it at that.
  19. You should have listened to the Empress Valley's "No Quarter" from their "Earl's Court: The Final Option" box set. The version you picked (assuming it's the 4CD "Complete Earls Court Arena Tapes II") unnecessarily switches between three different sources, and it's overly EQ'd. The Final Option version uses the best source (first released on the Immigrant label as Complete Earls Court Arena '75) as its main source. And it's been tastefully EQ'd to eliminate hiss. It's definitely the best audience tape from this Earls Court run, imho, and it does a good job at presenting this show in the best light possible. Glad to hear you like NQ so much. This one is my personal favorite from 1975 actually.
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    Nitpicking Page 1977

    Did he do this in any other live version of Stairway? Nothing comes to mind off the top of my head. Wonder he why decided to do it that particular night. Must have been in a good/creative mood.
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    Nitpicking Page 1977

    That's a pretty good list, with some interesting and unorthodox picks! I've got to say that for the longest time the 25th Kashmir didn't do much for me, but I've been warming up to it lately. It's now neck and neck with the 21st for me. Ultimately, I'd still personally choose the 21st, simply because I love Plant's ad libs there. The 26th is the show I'm least familiar with, so I'll have to do another listen for your picks there. For IMTOD, I'd choose the 22nd simply because I've never heard a heavier or more brutal version. I'll admit I don't care for Trampled Underfoot from this tour (too slow and plodding) so I'd say it doesn't matter much to me. I'd personally go with the 23rd for SIBLY, only because I think it's the most balanced out of them all. The 21st is energetic with great vocals, while the 25th has a great solo. The 23rd is the best of both worlds to me. I picked Rock and Roll from the 23rd due to Keith Moon's guest appearance. I picked the 23rd for Stairway for one big reason: there's a cut in the 25th version! Listen around 3:10 or so (right after Plant does his "ah ah ooohh!" vocals). It's small but noticeable. (Okay I just listened to it again and I can't decide if it's a cut or just both Page and Jones switching up at the exact same time. Either way, it's a bit jarring. Besides, the 25th solo is great, but I detect a few flubs here and there. The 23rd is, imho, one of the all time great Stairway solos. One of Jimmy's best ever.) Other than that your choices are identical to mine. For the acoustic set, I'd go with: TBOE - 27th. Great vocals from Plant and a nice warm vibe. GTC - 27th. Ditto. That's Alright Mama - 26th. Going Down South/I Can't Be Satisfied - 27th. Black Country Woman - 21st. Plant's vocals here are incredibly strong. Bron-Y-Aur Stomp - 27th. Even with the broken string, the Dancing Days tease alone makes this a must imho. As for the solos: Over the Top - 23rd. Keith Moon's guest appearance makes for a nice, fun version. Though if we're talking in purely technical terms, I'd choose the 22nd. VERY brutal and powerful with a nice upbeat pace. Noise solo - 22nd I guess since it ultimately flows into Achilles. The 27th version might work if it weren't so goddamn long! Once again, thanks for doing these nitpicks! On to Earls Court!
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    Nitpicking Page 1977

    I have to say I've really been enjoying your analyses here. Completely agree with you on LA '77 being better than any show in '75. In fact, when all is said and done, I personally think these LA shows and the two Copenhagen warm ups are the only post '73 shows that are musts. Out of curiosity, since you've clearly listened to these shows in great detail, what would your "best of LA '77" compilation look like? I did one myself and I'd love to compare and contrast your list with mine.
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    Underrated/overrated shows

    Not to toot my own horn here too much, but if anyone's interested, I did a best of 1980 tour compilation: In general, after putting this together, my thoughts are somewhere between rm2551's and IpMan's. In terms of full shows, I think only Frankfurt and Zurich are must hears from this tour. Everything else ranges from just decent to flat out embarrassing. But there are plenty of highlights sprinkled from throughout this run. Had Jimmy and Bonzo gotten into rehab, I think the American tour that year could have kicked serious ass! Plant was singing songs like Rock and Roll in their original melody again. But I do agree that Bonzo's lack of energy drags these shows down, even more than Page's sticky fingers. Plus, I think the setlist for that tour was horrible. The Rain Song followed by Hot Dog, followed by All My Love? Terrible pacing. Ultimately, like all latter day Zeppelin tours, it's a mixed bag with plenty of highlights imho.
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