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17 hours ago, Badgeholder Still said:
Next Stop: 3 Hours of Lunacy
Nice item and a great show.
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Good idea for a thread. It is all about opinions, and not being a musician in any way, shape or form myself, I could not point anyone in the direction of the "best" performance from a given year. I can choose my favourites to listen to from that year though ( this does change on a semi regular basis, probably like everyone else ).
1 Fillmore West, San Francisco, 4/27/69 ( Terrific sound, terrific setlist, from box set ' Led Zeppelin 1969 - A Collection Of The Best Concert Recordings ' ).
2 The Forum, Inglewood, 9/4/70 ( The amazing ' Live On Blueberry Hill ' performance ).
3 Festival Hall, Osaka, 9/29/71 ( From John Bonham's exhortation of, " Zeppelin, Zeppelin, louder, louder " right at the beginning of the show to the last notes of the final song, this is a must have. There are so many recordings available of this gig but the true soundboard, ' How The East Was Won ', is just incredible to listen to ).
4 Budokan Hall, Tokyo, 10/2/72 ( First show of the second Japanese tour, not everyone's favourite set of gigs, but I've always liked this one. Available on ' Budokan 1972 First Show ' ).
5 Seattle Coliseum, Seattle, 7/17/73 ( The audience recording ' V1/2 Live In Seattle ' is another classic with terrific sound ).
6 Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, 2/28/75 ( Another excellent audience recording that has a great atmosphere and even a sports whistle. Available on the title ' Led Astray ' ).
7 San Diego Sports Arena, San Diego, 6/19/77 ( Ignoring the obvious, the Forum shows that follow this one, this is another excellent audience recording that captures parts of the mania that a Led Zeppelin concert had become. This whole tour, which had a set list that truly spanned the bands whole career up to that time, really did show the complete breadth of what the group could play. This show is also notable for featuring the true rarities rarity, John Bonham having, in places, a slightly off night. The version on disc I enjoy is simply called ' San Diego 1977 '. Thank you Mike Millard ).
8 Falkoner Theatre, Copenhagen, 7/23/79 ( The other Copenhagen warm up show, not their best and not as good as the next night at the same venue, but nevertheless worth a listen. Available as ' Copenhagen Warm Up's ' in all its various guises ).
9 Eissporthalle, Berlin, 7/7/80 ( The last concert by the group and the end of an incredible career for Led Zeppelin following the tragic event that unfolded not long after this tour. Like everything else listed, available under many cd and vinyl titles but probably best known as ' Bonzo's Last Stand ' ).
The above list will undoubtably change and I could easily have added another completely different list or two to compliment these recordings. Anyone who's not heard all these should just dive right in and enjoy.
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CD's for me, often late night through headphones, just cannot beat live Led Zeppelin.
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That pic is beyond stunning, would love to see more of your work. Cheers.
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4 hours ago, ZepHead315 said:
Stunning.
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23 hours ago, JMH said:
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Damn. Gotta get to that. Cheers.Listening to a show a bloody love. Said a thousand times before but Zep hit one of their career peaks in LA 77:
Indeed a fantastic series of shows at the Forum, each one is different and each one is worth listening too.
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On 3/3/2023 at 8:19 PM, Joggs said:
Hi I found this in a collection I bought the printing is genuine and done by pro print the matrix etc is first press U.K. I need help if this is rare or made for overseas
No reason to doubt it, but if this is genuine it must truly be the rarities rarity. It looks great.
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Well worth getting, as are all his previous books.For me its an update on the 'Led Zeppelin Live Final Edition' and a handy sized manual to live recordings made by fans of the band.
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7 hours ago, paul carruthers said:
I'm disappointed there aren't more clear recordings of The Wanton Song where the audio doesn't drop out through the middle of it....
Try the warm up show in Brussels from January '75. Not the greatest recording quality in the world but full versions of both 'Wanton Song' and 'When The Levee Breaks'. Both sound good to my ears.
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So sad to see this, 32 is just no age at all to leave this world. Thanks for those drums, John Henry Bonham.
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We are indeed beyond lucky for the twelve years they gave us
23 hours ago, Plant77 said:Lots of great thoughts on this topic. There are, as many have said, many reasons his voice changed from, and after 68-72. While certainly viruses have nothing to do with temperature or wet hair, getting on and off temp controlled plains walking into freezing temps in some middle America arena will absolutely affect your voice and performance. Also doing several shows a night in the first 2 years and singing your guts/lungs out had to have had some effect.
The thing for me which I partly agree with you on his voice after 72 and sometimes even do prefer, is his phrasing, technique, choice of delivery.He got better in my opinion on a lot of songs that I don’t think he would have been able to do the same way. For example all of PG that were not left over songs from early albums. I don’t think Trampled would have sounded as good with 68-72 voice, as well as Kashmir, Custard, TYG, In the Light etc. and some performances in 75 when he was healthy and the entire band were on are simply amazing and 77 has some of my favorite Plant versions. By the way, I appreciate all of the members in the band equally and my “ Plant 77 “ name is not very thoughtful. Born in 77 and just put Plant in front.
If we think of Rock Singers of that era, no one had near the range with the exception of maybe Freddy. He was almost operatic in his performance and had an amazing voice. However, the songs do not compare, lyrically or instrumentally in my opinion. Paul Rogers certainly has an amazing Rock voice, but his range is not even close to Robert’s in that time. He wasn’t singing songs with the variety of Zeppelins catalog for sure. We also need to be amazed that the guy has a voice at all anymore. A simple google search of the amount of shows this man has played is pretty staggering. And the songs that he sings even at 73 years young is pretty insane. Not everyone on here will feel the same, but I’m blown away none the less.
Getting back to it, looking at PG, Presence, ITTOD and his solo works there are absolutely versions that I prefer. Even the 73 shows, his gritty-ness for lack of a better word. It was not necessarily full on blow your head off power, but there was a dirtier, perhaps sexier, sometimes squeaky vulnerability about his voice that I prefer. I enjoy any singer that is on the edge, where when they try and hit a specific note and it is not perfect, I love those performances. From the 2003 LZ DVD the IMTOD is maybe my favorite live performance of any song by them all time. From the very start, his confidence, playfulness, down to the Voice on Steroids moment at the end when he and Jimmy are pushing each other to the brink. If I were to play for someone who wasn’t a Zeppelin fan or had not heard any live songs this would be my first pick.
I must say when I listen to As along as I have you from the 27th of April that is just a mind blowing performance by all of them. I also believe the city that they were in would also somehow and sometimes help create that magic that we all get to enjoy. LA, NY, SF New Orleans and many other amazing places in the US and throughout the countries that they played maybe helped get them all up for a show. Not always about the big cities we all.
When I first started to dive deep into the Bootleg world in the early 90’s I did find myself listening to the early shows more, as I have aged and maybe just coming to appreciate the later shows although there are not as many, he still rocked the shit out of it from 73-1980.
I know that this was very long winded, and maybe even sounds a bit like an apologetic rant of his change. But that guy was the only person for the job, and no one could have come close to making Zeppelin sound like they did through their years together. Off topic, that is why I respect them as much as I do, you could not have gone on without any one of them. They were all bursting with talent and all of them were the exact fit for that band and they were all in my opinion the best at their craft. If Jonesy would have left after 73 as very nearly did happen they would have had to pack it in then as well.
I have been without power for 7 days now in the Santa Cruz Mountains, and started with Album 1 and worked my way through Coda. I have moved onto my earliest bootlegs and with the passing of Jeff Beck and my own thoughts on my mortality we are beyond lucky to have had the 12 years that they gave us. Impossible to even think about music without their contributions. Head and shoulders above everyone.We are indeed lucky for the twelve years they gave us, nice post and I hope you get that power back on soon.
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6 minutes ago, austrianzeppelin said:
used the xmas break for some record collection tlc and took the opportunity to line them all up. here are my Zep vinyl boots.
Never got into the vinyl side of things myself but that is a real collection and you've got some great titles there. Thanks for posting.
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I'm a big fan of live versions of 'No Quarter' myself. For me it was a real gem and a cornerstone of the bands live set, especially during the '75 and '77 tours. I would recommend any of the Earls Court, London versions from '75 and the L.A. Forum performances from '77 are terrific also. All are available in versions that vary from good to excellent, sound quality wise, and all are well worth a listen. Good luck.
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Simply incredible that this even exists and we are able to see it. Thanks a lot for sharing.
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42 minutes ago, Strider said:
Pseudo-psychological or not, I do believe there is some validity to the concept of closure and that it does help in the grieving process.
What has changed is that grieving used to be a private matter and now it seems we expect everyone to publicly grieve. Maybe it was because I was younger, but I do not recall many public displays when Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, and Jim Morrison died. Elvis Presley's death was the first occurrence I remember of people making a public spectacle of a celebrity's death. It happened again with John Lennon's murder. But the ball really got going with Princess Diana's death. Ever since then, it seems we can't allow anyone to die in peace without turning it into a narcissistic display of public emoting.
Now the whole world can't wait to spill their guts in public. We are a more pathetic society for it.
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11 hours ago, zeplz71 said:
I think they made the right decision to end it at the time. But after doing solo albums etc., by the 90s, instead of "Page/Plant" it would have been worthwhile to try another album together with Jason on drums.
And maybe even JPJ on bass and keyboards. I will never understand his not being invited in for that "Unledded" project.
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Just getting through the L.A. Forum show from 22/6/77 (4 Source Mix). Not top notch sound, although nice to have the full gig all in one place. Well worth a listen.
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4 hours ago, JMH said:
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On the date! Also reminded me of 18.9. Anyway, this MSG concert has been growing on me for a long time... First when I heard it I was like damn Plant is off but part of that was that I expected him to do certain things and hit certain notes and he was singing around his issues avoiding stuff. Now, if you just take it as it is it ain't too bad a rock and roll vocal delivery and the playing is good as is this old bootleg. I think I haven't heard the new matrix versions but how much is there to gain?
Funny cover... from EC I guess.
I've got this as a release called ' Madison Square Graffiti ' and it's one of my favourites from the ' 75 tour. Excellent show in terrific sound quality.
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Just play ' When The Levee Breaks'.
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3 minutes ago, kipper said:
I kind of think the grand old gal deserves her own tribute thread apart from the other common gentry who have passed.
RIP Lizzy. Nobody had more style than you did. You will not ever be replaced.
Your last two sentences sum it up perfectly. Thanks.
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Just freakin' incredible to see footage like this. Thanks a million for posting.
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This already to me looks like some of the very best footage shot of the band, I would sincerely love to see all of this show. Thanks for posting, its amazing.
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21 hours ago, Walesdad said:
'Sunset' - The Forum, Inglewood, California, June 27th '77. The bands last ever concert at the venue and an enjoyable, long show from an excellent audience recording.
Quickly followed by the show from the 23rd of June from the same venue and tour otherwise known as 'For Badgeholders Only'. Two terrific audience recordings from an outstanding series of shows. Thank you Mr. Millard.
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'Sunset' - The Forum, Inglewood, California, June 27th '77. The bands last ever concert at the venue and an enjoyable, long show from an excellent audience recording.
Southampton 22-Jan-1973 show radio broadcast ?
in Led Zeppelin Live
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I would be 99.9% positive that this show was never broadcast in the U.K. As duckman has stated, this "broadcast" moniker is just a ruse to try and legitimise this and other live recordings of not only Led Zeppelin but many other bands as well.