Meg i am not sure what your position with my statment is as it was more about a 3rd person leapin gin to continue stirring up sperosnal disike of someone and you seem to have got hooked into it rather than sticking with yor own personal point and experiences. My bowing down statement was just that, there are people around who have more knowledge etc that I do and I acknowledge that and its no problem to me. So keep your arse kissing lips to yourself if thats your way, nothing to do with me. I have no idea what the rest of your post is about or what you are inferring or accusing people of or who you are alluding to. I have no idea what a sockpuppet account is either. I read your disagreement on this thread but thats between you and the other person but it became a different personal attack in one of your posts and I am not sure why it had to be that way when you were disagreeing about something from over 30 years ago, that to me still has yet to have the absolute proof. People disagree all the time, some can admit they are wrong others can't even when they know they are or there are doubts about band information, or politics or whatever. We all probably know something others don't, there's no need for people to be so protective or defensive about it. If people set themseves up as being the font of all wisdom then for me they can and should expect challenges to that stand point. I always find it amusing when people pull the " I am putting you on ignore cos I disagree with you" I can't imagine ever doing that no matter how much I amy dislike or disagree with them. Perhaps you should re read my post, try not to read betwen the lines cos it wasn't really about you directly, my issue is with someone else. I appreciate what people contribute to this forum with background knowledge and information but there are times when Ihave to suspend my own disbelief cos many a time things can't be corroborated fully I know thats partly why Steve started this thread to become clearer about a band steeped in so much so called "mystery" and isn't that partly why we are all here? But we all have to except even you that someone else may have more information and from far more reliable sources. Does it really matter? We will never really know unless the 3 guys give us that information and I bet even then there would be disagreements about what really happened behind the scenes. I don't kiss arse either but then I don't pretend to be the font of all knowledge ( don't twist that) I was speaking for myself. So have your discussions, agreements and disagreements but don't think that everyone is so in awe or kissy arsey either although there are times when it is nauseating when people are. People can make their own minds up about what people say, think or share. So you don't need to fight with me unless you are determined to and please don't use my friendship with others on the board as the reason to. I will defend my friends ( and I have quite a few on this forum) if I feel they are being unfairly attacked but it doesn't mean I have to accept they are always right. So there you go. No mystery

If I had lived that close to a venue in 77 then I wouldn't have needed the papers I would have been there at the show Having the papers doesn't make someone an expert

Angels on hold - Neal Casal

Its hard for some to trust others with their pain/secrets. Many I know have worried about whether the counsellor/therapist is able to handle their pain and not be shocked or disgusted by what is revealed to them, especially around child abuse, or if they will judge them for being abused.

Saw Dr John last night. he's still such a cool guy

Ryan Adams and the Cardinals 10th Nov

Climax Blues Band -Sense of Direction Ryan Adams Cardinology Paul Kossoff - Best of Back Street Crawler Back St Crawler Head Hands and Feet - Old Soldiers never die Cheap Trick - Live at the Budokan Back St Crawler The band plays on The Spirit of Joy - Tales from Polydor Underground 1967- 74

Back Street Crawler

Bomber, it sounds as if something positive is beginning to happen but considering you have been given several mental disorder labels for your experience, it must be hard to decide what is best for you or how to treat it. Not sure how you can be an ex multiple personality disorder though, who gave you that disgnosis? Psychiatrists often use differential diagnoses when they aren't sure what the real issue is. Some who develop schizophrenia can experience depressive symptoms in the early stages but some people can have psychotic depressiions where they aren't just depressed but expereience voices or other hallucinations or paranoid ideas. Treat the depression and the psychosis can reduce or go. A mixture of antipsychotics and antidepressants can help but its knowing which comes first to treat effectively and there can be issues in using both at the same time for some people because of unwanted side effects. I would hope that your antipsychotic medication helps but if there is no psychosis then usually they don't do much. Perhaps an antidepressant would be a better option for some in your position but they need to be taken for several months minimum for them to be effective. make sure you get your psychiatrist to explain the treatments and side effects to you to help you to decide what is right for you. The stigma of mental illness stops many people admitting to those close to them they have a problem but there is alot more information and support around these days both for the individuals and their families. Good luck in trying to overcome your difficulties.

It is very possible to reduce and control panic without medication. Overcoming the "fear of fear" is possible If you use beta blockers for panic then they can help but it does noting to help people conquer the fear of having another panic attack. That takes psychological strength.

Dr John on Thursday

Goldfrapp last night. excellent show

Feeder last Monday,, really enjoyed it

Goldrapp = 25th

CSNY - Deja Vu dvd David Gilmour - Live in Gdansk

Feeder = 20th October

Stephen Stills tomorrow.

The new AC/DC album

Hya ZW good to meet up with you. It was a great show, the highlight of many great songs for me was Dear Mr Fantasy Winwood was excellent on the guitar on that song. so good in fact a woman fainted

Kidderminster Music festival 27/9 Mike Sanchez Debbie Bonham Ian Parker Carlisle Egypt aka Kevin Gammond ( Band of Joy/Priory of Bryon) Followed in October and November by Groundhogs/Focus/Wishbone Ash 4/10 Steve Winwood 7/10 Stephen Stills 13/10 Feeder 20/10 Goldfrapp 25/10 Dr John 30/10 Ryan Adams & The Cardinals 10/11

Hey stop flirting with her, she's spoken for. Sorry Steve, I will no longer contibute to the derailing of your thread.

Seemslike you are spreading your love around behind the scenes then SC. And I thought I was the only one in your life. I am disappointed at your two timing me with The Evester

I didn't understand a word, stop talking double douche

Quintessence - Dive deep

Wet Willie - Dixie rock