Amstel
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I don't think so. Why would they have two soundchecks in two days at the same arena?
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Do any of you have the soundboard of July 6th? Plant's voice is shot! That is why I do not believe the soundcheck we speak of is from earlier in the day.
I agree with Geezer on the fact it probably isn't from 75', only because Plant's voice took on a whole new persona, if you will, by that point.
It's definitely from 73', but either before or after their stint in Chicago.
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July 6th 1973 in Chicago was actually the first date after a one month break. Robert didn't have the flu; after the show that night he, Jimmy & Bonzo went to see Bobby Bland perform. I'm aware there is speculation the sound check could be from Minneapolis on July 9th 1973 but I don't think it's ever been confirmed.
Yes.yes, yes...I know the story of seeing Bobby Bland. I know it was Led Zeppelin's first show on the second leg of the tour. Fact is Steve, Plant's voice was shot during those concerts -I do have the shows. I'll bet the house that the souncheck we speak of is not from their stint in Chicago.
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Surfacing from a July 6, 1973 sound check at Chicago Stadium,
Steve, there is no way that soundcheck is from Chicago 73'! If you have the bootlegs from Chicago in 1973, you'll know Plant's voice was shot because of him having the flu. That souncheck might be from the 75' tour or sometime before or after their set of concerts at the Chicago Stadium in 73'.
Then again, how Plant sounds during Strawberry Jam, it's probably during their 73' tour, but I know it isn't while they were in Chicago. It's been suggested it could be from Minneapolis on July 9th.
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L.A. Forum 3-27-75
No Quarter is superb!
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I have a photo of John Bonham wearing a Chicago Blackhawk sweater while backstage at The Chicago Stadium, before Led Zeppelin performed in 75'.
I don't remember where I found this photo. Can anyone help where I might find this online?
Thanks...
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L.A. Forum 3-27-75
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Too generic playing.
Have you seen any live footage of David Grohl playing with Queens Of The Stone Age? Look for footage on youtube of them playing at The Troubador.
What about his drumming with Them Crooked Vultures?
Too generic? I disagree.
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Everyone except for Dave Grohl and Buddy Miles.
Do you not like the drumming of David Grohl? If so, why?
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You just listed some of my favorite drummers.
Who, to be exact?
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I agree. As a drummer, he's much better than Mitch Mitchell, for example.
Much better? I don't know...
Bruford is definitely one of my favorite drummers.
A musician could be the best on the planet from a technical standpoint, but create crap. Keith Moon wasn't technically great, but what he put on those Who records was (great).
I also love the drumming of:
Ian Paice
David Grohl
Jimmy Chamberlain
Matt Cameron
Carl Palmer
Carmine Appice
Billy Cobham
Ginger Baker
Buddy Rich
Gene Krupa
Elvin Jones
Stuart Copeland
Buddy Miles
Bernard Purdie
Ed Shaughnessey
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Have you heard of Bill Bruford?
Of course! Bruford is one hell of a player. Heart Of The Sunrise is spectacular.
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Rush, for their musicianship alone, are one of the best bands ever.
But...
The material they put out throughout the 80's and into the 90's,IMO, is less than desireable.
I see many talk about Neil Peart being the best rock drummer ever. I believe the reasoning for that is Bonham has been dead since 80' and Rush is still an active band.
To this day, I have yet to hear another rock drummer do what Bonham did. I believe John Bonham was faster than Peart. People will debate this one, but just listen to some of the early versions of Pat's Delight, the 73' European tour, the 75' North American tour and 77'. John was incredibly fast. However, speed isn't everything. Bonham's crossovers were on par with Buddy Rich. The bass drum playing? No one could touch Bonham in that regard. Look at the size of Bonham's kit. It's a quarter the size of Peart's, yet Bonham sounded much bigger. He made a small kit sound like he had one the size of Peart's.
1. John Bonham
2. Mitch Mitchell
3. Neil Peart
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Finding out Marian Hossa will play for the Blackhawks tonight!
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JYNX
CRONIC
THE BUCKETHEADS
THE LEVEE
BAD APPLES
100 PROOF
GREEN ONIONS
MUDVILLE
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Aretha Franklin
Dusty Springfield
Janis Joplin
Ann Wilson
Alison Mosshart - The Dead Weather
Billie Holiday
Patsy Cline
Annie Lennox
Pattie Smith
Chrissie Hynde
Donna Summer
Deborah Harry
Joan Baez
Shania Twain
Pat Benatar
Alison Krauss
I understand topic is asking "Best Female Rock Vocalist" but there are other very good women voices in the whole music world.
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Essen, Germany 3/22/73
That European tour of 73' is outstanding!
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FM radio is a joke. Program directors at these FM stations have horrible musical tastes. And the majority of listeners allow themselves to be brainwashed because they don't know better. I guess the masses are happy hearing Free Bird 50 times in one week.
It's pathetic to hear FM stations come up with program slogans like "Deep Cuts"
If a song is good, shouldn't it be played? I mean, why should In My Time Of Dying by Led Zeppelin, or Machine Gun by Jimi Hendrix/Band Of Gypsys be presented by these FM stations acrooss America as "Deep" tracks? Utter nonsense!
Chicago had a great Saturday night show that was broadcast on 105.9 WCKG "Free FM". The name of the show was Bob & Ron's Record Club. The show came on at 12am and ended at 5am. They played nothing but vinyl, and never played the same song twice unless it was on a themed based show. They granted all requests - when was the last time any of you requested a particular song and had it played?
I've been contemplating buying radio time, but my schedule doesn't allow me to make that venture in the immediate future.
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If the O2 show never took place, I wonder if many of you would still pick "Good Times Bad Times" as your favorite album opener...
I doubt that very much.
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Foggy & rainy
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Sorry but ... no you don't.
KISS were a real band that had a vision and worked their asses off. Go on youtube and type in "Kiss 1974" and you will find a great underground band playing like there's no tomorrow... I don't care if they were the best players in the world or not... they were going for it .
They were not a fake band... The comic books and merchandise came after ... when they were already HUGE.
Winterland Ballroom 1/31/1975..
Brutal, just brutal!
This will be the final thing I post on this lame band - I want to thank the man upstairs, God himself, for giving me the musical tastes I have. For anyone that likes this crap band, better you than I!
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To say that Kiss were miserable musicians is absolute bollocks.
I must admit that most songs were heavy metal singalong songs, but many of them are very well crafted ones.
The ones that were no singalong songs like "Beth" and "I still love you" are imo quite overlooked gems.
The Dynasty/Unmasked period did produce some way too slick pieces of music, but The Elder and especially Creatures of the night were really good comeback albums (Eric Carr was one hell of a drummer).
I did have problems with the softer touch of The Elder, but once it did grow on me I regard it as one of their better efforts, it's different but way ahead of it's time.
After that they went too slick in the eighties sense of rock again, too bad.
Kudos to Ace for being one great inspiration for a whole generation of young guys to pick up the guitar.
Not miserable, HORRIBLE - & they are!
"Quite overlooked gems?" Maybe gems found in a poop pile.
I was 10 (in 1982) when I bought my first Led Zeppelin album, so I seen the nonsense of KISS first hand. For me, at age 10, it was always about how great the music sounded, and not the gimmicks. I hated KISS when I was 10, and the hatred I have for that band will always be there, because they do suck ass. Many of my friends in grammar school were preaching about KISS, Van Halen, ACDC, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, etc., etc., but I was always in their ears talking Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, The Who, and Black Sabbath.
Zeppelin Mysteries Hosted by Steve A. Jones
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Plant's voice was changed forever after he had the "secret" surgery on his vocal chords, which occured after the 73' American tour and before they started recording Physical Graffiti.