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42 minutes ago, The Rover said:
I attended a live dress rehearsal once.... in Dallas, on April 1st, 1977.
Incredible! Can you share your memories of that experience? Maybe in a new thread?
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5 hours ago, bluecongo said:
makes we wanna do a speedball put on a Dragon suit and jam along man
Ha! I think that's a good thing... 🤔
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48 minutes ago, Bozoso73 said:
Nicely done:):) WITHOUT MUSIC???
PS watched subscribed. . great vids Porgie!!
Yes, I played it without music.
Thanks for subscribing, there will be a lot more to come.
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Terry from Bonzoleum and I have teamed up to create a YouTube channel dedicated to discussing and breaking down John Bonham's drumming. BONZOLOGY. Give it a look !! In our debut videos we discuss Bonzo's drumming on The Song Remains The Same in the style of the legendary June 21 1977 ( LISTEN TO THIS EDDIE BOOT) . We will be posting new videos on a regular basis and are taking requests, suggestions for topics.
The video below is me playing the end of TSRTS , leading into the Rover intro, and a complete Sick Again, ala 1977 style. This is not meant to be a literal transcription, it is in the style of his 77 performances. Hope you all enjoy it.
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2 hours ago, Strider said:
Kind of bizarre...
Huh??🤤
At 28 Pagey was lighting up stages all over the US and banging groupies left and right, hardly a crisis in his life. WTF is she on about?
Maybe she read somewhere that Page had felt at at a dead end with his session work in the mid 60s but that's hardly a crisis. I dunno....this whole bit is just weird. Midlife ain't 28!
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Other people in the audience can be seen holding up cameras. There must be more pics from this night out there somewhere. There only a few mics on the drums. I would have loved to hear Bonzo with very little miking , about as naturally as can be. This gig must've been just astonishing.
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1 hour ago, drowan said:
These photos were taken by my best friend, Gerald Birdsall, when we were both 15 years old. We got these pair of tickets to the 8:30 pm concert 10th row just two days before the concert. As you may know, the Led Zeppelin band members missed their flight to the US the day before the concert and managed to arrive at Carnegie Hall just a few hours before the concert. That may help to explain why there was so little stage equipment for this concert. The crowd went wild during the concert and the Carnegie Hall management were compelled to stop the concert several times so they could urge the fans to step down off the mahogany arms of the chairs in this formal concert hall. As LZ webmaster, Sam Rapallo, has mentioned, there was no security managing the crowd that night - only traditional ushers. So, because our seats were right off the isle, we could go right down to the edge of the stage to take a few of these photos. The camera that was used was a Nikon F with high speed B&W Tri-X film. We used this high speed film so no flash would be required. Gerald and I developed the negatives ourselves. The negatives were misplaced for 45 years. They were found in 2014 when Robert Plant was touring the US with his new album show. We saw him put on a fantastic concert at the Capitol Theater (Port Chester, NY) on September 24, 2014. Ironically, the Capitol Theater concert hall was established in the fall of 1969 by Howard Stein, the same individual who produced the concert at Carnegie Hall on October 17, 1969. Gerald and I sent copies of these 1969 photos from Carnegie Hall back stage to Robert Plant the night of the 2014 concert, but we were not sure they got to him. Now they can be enjoyed more widely.
Incredible! Thank you so much for sharing these. This was supposed to be a legendary performance by Bonham of Moby Dick. Any recollection of his playing on the drum solo? He was supposed to have been extraordinary that night . I thought I read somewhere that Eddie Kramer was at this show.
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10 hours ago, Mook said:
By the way, I don't think it's a wig. There's definitely mention of an (Hendrix inspired) afro in one of my John Bonham books by one of his acquaintances.
I have a memory of reading that too. Whole Lotta hairspray!
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39 minutes ago, sixpense said:
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11 minutes ago, badgeholder said:
Bonzo with a 'fro? Could it be? whoa
You are correct sir! Not sure if it's a wig though.Great pic!
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Jason just posted this pic yesterday on Instagram.
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3 hours ago, Mithril46 said:
Damn. In NYC, I remember about 2-3 years ago some theater had a midnight showing. I don't speak for anyone else,
but on the large screen, believe me , there are details and aspects of the movie you can't see even on a 60" home tv.
In various spots Jimmy is playing so fast his hands are actually a blur. Long live Midnight Movies !! Viewers cheering
as the symbols appear with each member's name. Those were the days!!.
Yeah man, the cosmic energy was in those theaters ...the collective vibe and the big screen are the best. I must've seen it 15 times in Chicago from 79 to about 1985. Fond memories.
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1 hour ago, gibsonfan159 said:
Man, I've been reading "The Garden Tapes" by Eddie Edwards and it's kinda blowing my mind how much editing went on for both the film and soundtrack. It honestly makes me lose some respect for them. Hell, even the Plantations were spliced from different nights. The whole thing is more or less a sham. It's really hard now to say "The version from TSRTS is the best" because....that's not an actual performance.
The level of detail Eddie Edwards achieved in his analysis is mind boggling. I can't imagine dissecting every bar of every officially released track and comparing them the audience and board tapes of the three nights. It is quite a chop job but all in all I'm still very happy to listen to it, given the paucity of multi-tracked recordings. The Rain Song and most of No Quarter are pretty much unaltered, and those are two of my favorite versions ever.
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There was some mention of her in this forum a while ago....seem the consensus was she was just a random audience member who was in rapt awe of the band. Who knows if she was specifically reacting to Robert, Jimmy or Bonzo wailing away. There was some speculation it was Shirley Wilson, Maureen Plant's sister and later on partner, though it seems that was roundly dismissed.
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3 hours ago, Strider said:
Even if the fantasy sequences had been planned beforehand, if they had had full coverage of the concert in hand, then when they sat down to watch a rough cut, someone with some sense could have said "Yo, these fantasy bits are dodgy and are distracting from the performance on stage...and they are going to be as dated as Earth shoes when this is released. Let's scrap it and just use the concert footage."
But because they didn't they were forced to use it...especially when Robert's accident in Greece cancelled the Summer '75 tour, nullifying any further filming.
The other irony about "The Song Remains the Same" is how dodgy it makes John Paul Jones look. His hair and clothes keep changing by the minute. Now, in the times I saw Led Zeppelin, Jones usually was a cool cat. In 1972, he was downright beautiful with long, flowing hair...maybe the longest in the band. No silly clothes. At the Forum in 1973, he had a mustache and a Prince Valient cut which didn't flatter him. 1975 was my favourite look for Jonesy...short hair and black dress shirt and trousers and vest. He looked cool and sharp. In 1977, he grew his hair back out and tended to favour all-white outfits. Nothing great but nothing egregious, even though he tended to look like Greg Lake on this tour.
So, how unfortunate it is that on the two occasions they recorded their concerts for posterity, MSG '73 and Earls Court '75, Jones decides to wear that onion jacket monstrosity. What was he thinking? Someone should have burned it...especially after 1973. The fact he brought it back for Earls Court and no one said "No Jonesey!" is a shame. Compare Jones on the 1975 U.S. tour to '75 Earls Court...it's no contest. He's dressed to kill on the U.S. tour and he should have kept that look for Earls Court.
The less said about the dopey wig the better. That's the point where the band should have realized that the film was gonna be a bust. Did they really think nobody would recognize Jones was wearing a wig and that it made him look foolish?
Haha, wow...agreed on all counts. BTW , wouldn't Bonzo have been wearing a wig too for the filming at Shepperton studios in August of 74? His hair in those scenes looks pretty unnatural .
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On 12/22/2017 at 3:36 PM, Strider said:
It was fairly pronounced, even to this ignorant Yankee kid at the time, the disdain the Londoners had towards Birmingham and other Midlanders. When I first travelled to England and got a first-hand look at this North-South schism, a lot of the comments I had read over the years suddenly came into context.
But even then, I couldn't give a rat's arse what X thought of Y and what Y thought of Z, and so on and so on. I like The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Kinks, the Stones, Bowie, The Move, The Who, Black Sabbath, Faces, Mott the Hoople, Pink Floyd...some a lot more than others and some only pertaining to certain years and/or certain lineups. But nothing Keith or Pete or David or Jimmy or Robert or anybody says about anybody isn't going to change who I like or don't like.
So stop caring so much about what Keith or whoever says about Led Zeppelin...and yes, it has been discussed ad nauseam on this forum already. Multiple threads exist on this very subject.
I agree with this sentiment, however...I will say this: Bonzo and Pagey would play the shit out of any Stones song , I can't say the same of Keef and Charlie on most Zeppelin tunes ( except the 12/8 or basic numbers). Can you imagine Charlie on In My Time Of Dying ? Or Achilles...or In The Light ... or.....???😆 A thundering 18 wheeler indeed...but not uncontrolled by any means. Sorry Mr Richards, wrong.
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48 minutes ago, weapon2010 said:
I was never a big Zeppelin guy.(from the reporter)
"Me neither. I love Jimmy Page, but as a band, no, with John Bonham thundering down the highway in an uncontrolled 18-wheeler. He had cornered the market there. Jimmy is a brilliant player. But I always felt there was something a little hollow about it, you know?" -
4 hours ago, pimmyjage said:
I would not be surprised if we see the live anthology Jimmy has spoken of in the past. He has had plenty of time to wade through the available material and compile what would be included on such a release. Perhaps his recent interest in bootleg recordings served as a reference point for particular shows/songs that make the grade.
Yes, this would be fantastic! He's been into boots for many years now. I really hope you're right.
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31 minutes ago, nick2632 said:
C'mon amateur's. Dancing Days came up a few times in '77
The soundboard recording of the 1977-05-26 Landover performance is incredible.
As for The Ocean, really should have been an occasional encore through the end.. However, I believe Bonzo being against it. He seemed a bit frustrated with it since the 5th take.. Perhaps he just never felt confident with it. I don't know much at all about drums, but that does seem like a very tedious song to nail on drums.
I never read about Bonzo not liking the song, where was that noted ? He played the shit out of it live most every time. It's not a tedious song , I think it's actually fun to play because of the odd time bars. Bonzo certainly never sounded like he struggled on it, and the ending shuffle was always a fun stretch out at the end. I agree with Blindwillie, it was a really happy, loose way to end a show, after all the intense exploration of the epics. Pity there aren't some versions to hear from 75 and 77.
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13 hours ago, ZepHead315 said:
One version that I almost never hear people talk about (though it has been mentioned a couple of times in this thread) is 5/18/75. I've listened to this a couple of times and I think it may just be my favorite NQ from 1975. Jones absolutely kills it and Page's solo (to my ears) is almost as fluid as his solo on TSRTS. Great recording too.
Here here!! One of my favs too. The coda is a bitch too!
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1 hour ago, blindwillie127 said:
Interesting bit on bootlegging in the U.K. from 1971
Very cool little find. I never heard Blueberry Hill was recording by radio transmission?? I always assumed the old LP sources, TMQ and Rubber Dubber both came from tapes. Anybody know about Grant's claim here?
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12 hours ago, Mook said:
I have to say I disagree with a fair bit of that but probably best kept for a Beatles thread somewhere.
I want to love ITTOD but it's too patchy for me, I bought the remastered CD with the bonus disc & I think I played them both once.
Other than Fool in the Rain, which is genius, I can take or leave it, which is mental considering how much I love all their other LPs.
Give In The Evening Alternate mix another listen. Jones bass is much clearer in the mix and it's just incredible how great he plays on that cut. You can really hear the influence of Jamerson and Dunn Also, I've never been keen on Hot Dog but Bonzos drums on the alternate mix are up front which makes for fun listening.
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3 hours ago, sam_webmaster said:
Tom Hulett (Concerts West), Jimmy Page, Clive Coulson. Honolulu Airport, Sept. 1971
Nice shot, looks like Jimmy went record shopping at Tower !
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8 hours ago, johnlennon696 said:
It's funny, two of their best shows; Zurich and Badgeholders are both plagued by Kashmir botches. Although I don't mind the LA one too much tbh.
Wow!! That's brutal. Oops, Page and Bonzo fucked that one up, then Plant skips right to the ending verses which really screws things....as opposed to Badegholders , which Jones gaffs in the same spot.
Copenhagen 24.07.79 Oh yes!!
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Boy am I a sucker! Ha....very cool story though!