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  1. Calling all experts, textperts, choking smokers...sorry, wrong band...

    We are having a problem at the "Jimmy's Smile" thread deciding if this is a picture of Jackie DeShannon or a random fan, or someone else entirely. Please advise.

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    Actress Susan George...maybe?

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  2. Not from YouTube so I can't embed these.

    Jimmy Page on France's Tout le monde en parle, May 10th, 2003 - promoting the DVD and How the West Was Won. It's all in French...but some interesting comments made (sorry no time to translate). Note the Yardbirds tracks - none of which he played on...the whole thing is a little cheesy to say the least.

    Part 1: http://www.ina.fr/ardisson/tout-le-monde-en-parle/video/I08310548/jimmy-page-premiere-partie.fr.html

    Part 2: http://www.ina.fr/ardisson/tout-le-monde-en-parle/video/I08321778/jimmy-page-deuxieme-partie.fr.html

    Part 3: http://www.ina.fr/ardisson/tout-le-monde-en-parle/video/I08321779/interview-fromage-ou-dessert-de-jimmy-page.fr.html

  3. What an intriguing question - when exactly was the Sept '68 Scandanavian tour booked? Peter Grant's autobiography may reveal specific details but seems to me they'd known their '68 North American tour was to be their last before they even got on the plane. No point booking a tour in June for a band that was disbanding unless they (Page, Dreja, Grant) were still keeping all options open. Your date of 8/15/68 is literally days after the Page, Jones, Plant, Bonham lineup held their first formal rehearsal. Seems foolish to enter into contractual (and touring) obligations for a new band on such short notice...unless the tour was booked in advance, in which case time was of the essence. So far as I know none of the dates were announced nor publicized prior to August 1968 (and that makes sense given the contract(s) had yet to be signed). It will be interesting to see what if anything is now revealed regarding the booking of this tour.

    I've seen at least two references from the July 1968 timeframe where Jimmy mentions that dates are booked for an October American tour. No mention of Scandinavia though, but then this could be because the news sources were American and there was no interest in what was happening in Europe. This is at the point where Dreja is still in the band...and one article (Deseret News, July 1968) mentions that the band is to be called "The Yardbirds Featuring Jimmy Page"...

    Update: There is an article from NME July 13th that mentions a ten-day tour of Scandinavia starting Sept 14th followed by a "lengthy American tour in October".

  4. I haven't got that worked out yet. I'm actually beginning to wonder if Jimmy's caption is incorrect regarding the date, or perhaps it's some sort of jam.

    Various Line-ups of The Redcaps

    Red E. Lewis & The Redcaps #1 (1958 - Early 1959)

    · Reddy Lewis (Lead Vocals)

    · Johnny Patto (Lead Guitar)

    · Mick Green (Rhythm Guitar)

    · Johnny Spence (Bass)

    · Frank Farley (Drums)

    Red E. Lewis & The Redcats #2 (Early - Easter 1959)

    · Reddy Lewis (Lead Vocals)

    · Bobby Oats (Lead Guitar)

    · Jumbo Spicer (Rhythm Guitar)

    · Tornado Evans (Drums)

    Red E. Lewis & The Red Cats #3 (Easter 1959 - Spring 1960)

    · Reddy Lewis (Lead Vocals)

    · Jimmy Page (Lead Guitar)

    · Jumbo Spicer (Bass)

    · Tornado Evans (Drums)

    Cuddly Duddly With Red E. Lewis & The Redcaps #4 (May - July 1961)

    · Cuddly Duddly (Lead Vocals)

    · Reddy Lewis (Vocals)

    · Johnny Patto (Lead Guitar)

    · Mick Green (Rhythm Guitar)

    · Johnny Spence (Bass)

    · Vic Cooper (Keyboards)

    · Frank Farley (Drums)

    It seems that Tornado Evans is actually Jimmy "Tornado" Evans...still no idea about the Rook part...unless that was another (short-lived) pseudonym, or maybe the drums were borrowed from another band. Didn't Jimmy record with the Redcaps after he left the band (which could explain the date)?

  5. JimCummins.jpg

    Red E. Lewis & The Redcaps, 1962

    Photo Credit: Jim Cummins

    Courtesy Jimmy Page Collection

    “In early 1959, I joined a North London combo called Red-E-Lewis And The Redcats. I played rhythm guitar, and another guitar player called Bobby Oats took care of lead. In Easter 1959, Oates announced that he was going to leave the band to go to drama school, and so the band turned their attention to finding someone else. It was during the ensuing conversations about a replacement that I first heard the name Jimmy (the kid from Epsom) first mentioned. In the months before I joined, The Redcats had played a few gigs at the Ebisham Hall in Epsom. After these gigs, Jimmy would chat to the band and using Bobby's guitar played a few licks and riffs and some Chuck Berry solos". -- John Spicer aka "Jumbo Spicer"

    Chris Tidmarsh, The Redcats’ manager, contacted Jimmy and invited him down to Shoreditch, where the band rehearsed in a room above a pub with a view to auditioning for the vacancy.

    Ok, so that's John "Jumbo" Spicer with the guitar. The drummer is "Tornado Evans" I believe, but who is Jimmy Rook?

  6. I can't think of any either, Frank.

    There is now a confirmed BBC Playhouse Theatre session photo from Jimmy's forthcoming photo "autobiography" - check out the scans from the latest Mojo magazine (photo notes are in black and the photo in question is on page 8 top left, page 7 has the info):

    http://forums.ledzeppelin.com/index.php?/topic/12585-jimmys-book-very-limited-edition/

  7. I have this quote from Mick Fleetwood's bio:

    Since the Cheynes worked out of the Gunnel brothers' agency, we played the same circuit as their other bands - Georgie Fame and the Blue Flames, Chris Farlowe and the Thunderbirds, Ronnie Jones and the Night-Timers (with John Paul Jones on bass and Johnny McLaughlin on guitar) and John Mayall's Bluesbreakers.

    Same band?

  8. Re Alexis Korner:

    “One night I went to one of these blues concerts. At that time, Alex had developed quite a staunch following and they’d gone from the back rooms right into the accepted theaters. He was playing one night and I was there and I’d had a reasonable amount of whiskey, and I thought I had the courage to get up there on stage with him and say, ‘listen, I’m going to blow harmonica.’ And off we went. And I started singing too. He’s a great cat; he’s a really fine man. He looked over the rims of his tinted spectacles and smiled and said some funny line and off we went. We had a good relationship.”

    From a book called Led Zeppelin’s Golden Boy Robert Plant by Michael Gross, published in 1975 by Circus magazine.

    …Robert sang for awhile with Alexis Korner, whose own band Blues Incorporated had long since gone. They gigged together around Birmingham and also did shows at Kirkaldy YMCA and Middle Earth, still a hippie stronghold, in Covent Garden. Robert told the New Musical Express in April 1970 about his time with Alexis. ‘I was working immediately before Led Zeppelin with Alexis Korner and we were in the process of recording an album with a pianist called Steve Miller. A very fluid thing…nothing definitely set up. We had a wonderful time and we were going to do a few festivals in Germany.’

    From a book called Power and Glory, Jimmy Page and Robert Plant, by Chris Welch, published in 1985.

  9. This is such a great thread - thanks to all the contributors (especially Blocoboy). It would be great if someone could track down some info on Robert's gigs with Alexis Korner. Also, I wonder if the admins might consider renaming this thread as "Robert Plant's pre-Zep History" (although there is also info on Bonham's bands as well) given the significance of all the great new info that's come to light.

  10. Keith Richards (circa 1986):

    Jimmy Page came down and did a couple of licks on a track for our new album, and they were nice too.

    Jimmy's the best. I hadn't seen him in a long time, but he's looking good and playing good. Now, I didn't like Led Zeppelin at all, piss on 'em - sorry, chaps, and all, but it just never appealed to me. Lots of banging with lead singers with flying gold locks and the whole bit: never had any use for them, or the Who either. I could never get along in a band with a posturing, posing lead singer like that, all those histrionics [imitates a Robert Plant shriek]. It's not my stuff, though I know it's loads of other peoples'. It takes all kinds, right?

    But Jimmy I've known from way before Zeppelin, from all those pre-Stones times. I met Jimmy Page through Ian Stewart: they used to do various club gigs together. In fact, for "Heart of Stone" Jimmy did the original demo. Andrew [Loog Oldham, the Stones' producer] was going to flog that off to somebody else. So when we decided that we were going to do it I nicked Jimmy's solo almost note-for-note [laughs].

    ...good thing Mick Jagger doesn't do any "posturing" or "posing"...:D

  11. Interesting thread...I wonder if the student newspaper at the University of Las Vegas would have had an ad or review for this show at the time? College level kids would've been the primary audience for Led Zep in those days when they were still considered underground. Here's a link to the library: http://www.library.unlv.edu/.

    :o ...just noticed that this has already been done...oh well, keep digging

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