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1 hour ago, Moby_Dick_Ale said:
AirRaid sells EVERY Moonchild cd for just $ 11.- Even some EVSD’s, no LZ, just U2 for $ 11.-
See the site OK but there's no pricing or order links.
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Feck it. Moonchild sets now seem to be going from $35 to $50 now plus shipping!! I'm sticking with Winston releases and if I feel like burning discs I can. Moonchild should not be indulged they should be shunned for ripping off Andy so fecking blatently.
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14 hours ago, IpMan said:
I hate to say this but it is likely because it was a European tour at a time when no one in Europe gave a shit about Zeppelin, the Who, the Stones, or any of the "old guard" bands. The Stones did not embark on a tour of Europe until 82' after punk had all but died over there. But 1980...hell no. The European music scene was completely different from the US scene at the time.
I venture the US leg of the tour would have been covered extensively and possibly a show or two multi-tracked. As it was when tickets were announced for the American dates they either immediately sold out (dates which tickets were sold) or would have due to insane demand. Zep could have easily played the mega-arenas if they wanted to on the US 80-81' tour but in Europe they couldn't even get arrested if they wanted to. The fact is, the majority of the audience at those European dates were American servicemen. I have a friend who attended both the Frankfurt and Munich gigs and he supported this fact. He said the shows were pretty much USO shows in all but name only, that's how much of the audience were US soldiers.
I never knew there was so much apathy towards them in Europe at that time - I remember how sick I'd get having to listen to New Wave and New Romantic music on (UK) radio and TV so perhaps it's not so surprising after all. I suppose after the European leg of the 1973 tour, Europe was mostly out of the loop from then on. Yes, fair points lpMan, makes sense.
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Lots of excellent audience tapes and soundboards out there that cover 68-80. Since those days remasters and remixes have been done to many tapes resulting in some great concerts being preserved. However, I have never understood why Europe 80 has so few decent recordings - Frankfurt? Zurich? Vienna? Rotterdam? And even they don't sound as good, to me, as either of the Danish warm up nights nights. Other than those four which are not too bad, the rest are a bit meh even after Winston's worked his magic. I would have thought that the band's comeback, even in a limited European tour would have got the hearts pumping with it's implications of business as usual before too long. Yet very few quality recordings exist. Always been puzzled by the seeming lack of interest from the fans.
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A little depressing. 65 in a few months and hoping I live to get all the planned releases, plus Mark Lewison's volume 2 of his Beatles saga. God for the days when time had no meaning.
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I was pleased that 'The Epic' was somewhat less 'jaunty' than the version on ITTOD. I wanted to love the original but JPJ's keyboards sounded like stuff you'd play at a wedding. Page's part was haunting and completely unrelated to JPJ's. Shame that Jimmy was too messed up to really contribute to the sessions.
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For the last few months I've probably listened Seattle July 17th '73 more than any other date. The JEMS version is absolutely top notch.
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1 hour ago, Sathington Willoughby said:
You're crazy, Not Guilty is great, better than some of Georges stuff that made it onto the White Album, imo.
Yes. Certified and on day release only. So what's your excuse?
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Luxury! Beatles fans have two unreleased tracks - Not Guilty and What's The New Mary Jane. Both are crap. There is nothing else - Leave My Kitten Alone and Lend Me Your Comb are on the BBC discs. I was quite surprised at the quality of the extras disc in the Sgt Pepper re-release but the songs are pretty much just works in progress or different mixes. The Zeppelin extras discs had enough material that had not evolved into released versions, some quite significantly different. Personally I wish that Jimmy had included bootlegged material as with remastering, I believe that the average fan would have been delighted and the committed fans like us would also have been delighted.
Sadly, I don't hold out hope for an Earls Court release as it would take Jimmy at least 20 years to to cut and paste between all five nights, including a few seconds here, a few seconds there, until he was satisfied. Still, what we have is not too bad quality so I'd be ok with that if we never see an official release.
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On 7/5/2017 at 7:14 PM, Cosmic_Equilibrium said:
LA 22/06/1977
Working my way through the LA shows - I've had Eddie for a while now but not delved beyond it. Given Badgeholders a good listen and the 25th as well, now I'm playing the 22nd and despite the lesser sound quality this is clearly one of the best nights.
Got the 27th lined up, been listening to bits of that as well - it's not as intense a show but for some reason the vibe is appealing. The 26th is nowhere to be found on Youtube, otherwise I'd give that a go too.
For me, the 27th is a toss up between EVSD's Deep Striker and Mike The Mike (Winston Remaster). Both are excellent releases.
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Just found a copy of 06-28-1972 'Neath The Arizona Skies, Tucson. I have a couple of releases that are not that great but 'A Group Personal Project' have really done a great job and made it very listenable and enjoyable.
Lineage: "Crashing Revelry", (EVSD), Trader CD-R > EAC, Secure Mode, Accurate Stream, No Disable Cache > WAV > Remaster > Flac Frontend, Encoding Options, Level.8, Align On Sector Boundaries > Flac (from the info file).
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Been looking at some of the Moonchild offers and whilst they are typically $15, shipping is also $15 (from Japan I think), so they work out at $30 a pop. May just been the particular offers I looked at though.
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Where's Liam when you need him?
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If nothing else, this and the 'Any time now......' message on Plant's site does make the heart beat just a little bit faster.
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For what turned out to be their final Forum gig, it was quite awesome - one of my top nights - Winston's being my preference.
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MSG 1973-07-28, The Effect Is Shattering (EVSD) - great show and great quality recording.
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Not sure what is permitted to post here but anyway - It's on Dime as part of:
Live on Blueberry Hill
The Complete 1970 LA Forum Tapes (EVSD)The sources are also available individually, look for Source 2, TMOQ alternate source.
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Listening to what I think is the best version of 09-04-70 I've heard so far, from the recent EVSD box set. Great quality (IMO of course) - EVSD Source 2 - TMOQ Alternate Source.
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Not one of the shows that gets much love (it seems) but I really enjoy the Electric Magic version.
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JEMS version of Seattle, 73/07/07. Very sweet.
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A few people have mentioned finding it hard to listen to IMTOD all the way through. I feel the same. There's a pretty good section from Jimmy in there but once Oh My Jesus shows up that's it. I appreciate that they enjoyed playing their version of delta blues or Cajun, Zydeco or whatever. But they already had When The Levee Breaks which is in a similar vein but a better song (IMO). It only got played a few times back in 71 (I think) and then was gone forever. Shame. I think it is one of JHB's best studio works, just amazing drumming and doesn't have the vocal gymnastics that IMTOD has.
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Pleas ignore the post of mine above, what a PITA it is putting up pictures. I accidentally added a picture that was too big, could I delete? Er....No. And I'm bleeding baffled as to why not. Tried replacing it with smaller files - that worked well as you can see.
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My favorite as been The X-Mas edition. To my ears it was the best I'd heard. Just recently I got a hold of a download of the Winston remaster. Great job Winston! I still love the X-Mas edition but it's no longer my go-to version.
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Nice, very nice - Vancouver, March 19th, 75.
Moonchild - Winston remasters new label?
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