John M
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Another stellar effort Steve! Bringing 1977 to life. WOW. This combined with the recent 1977 Pontiac news clip has me in a 1977 zone these days. Going back and revisiting your other 1977 remasters. Superb. Great time to be a Zeppelin fan. Back in the old days I could never have imagined these treasures.
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Eight years after Texas Pop Festival and they are still being called
"The Led Zeppelin"Great shot of the whole crowd inside.
Those clothes and hairstyles really take me back to that time.
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Outstanding photos ! Thanks for posting. Are those two people so close to Jimmy with the band? Seems really close for them to be fans?
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I knew right away this was terrible. It sounds like a bad parody of a bad parody. So, like most AI stuff, like the crappy AI lyrics I have seen.
The singing is horrible. Nothing like Plant. Even worse is the generic metal guitar sound. Page never sounded like that and he never played anything that stilted.
The drums? Even worse.
You could say this is what AI would give you if you asked it to create a bad parody of Greta van Fleet doing a bad parody of Kingdom Come.
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Is this about what we would have wanted for a setlist, or what we think would actually have been the 1980 fall US set list?
Zeppelin usually only changed a few songs between tours that were close together, so the starting point for fall 1980 would have been the Europe 80 set list with maybe a few changes. I read somewhere that Carouselambra was being planned or at least considered.
Given the shape that Page and Bonham were in, I can't imagine there would have been a lot of change in the three months and 10 days between July 7 and Oct 17.
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Steve seeing the video with your remastered audio is over the top. Just those initial bass and drum notes before TSRTS starts. WOW. Takes me back. The bass sounds incredible. I know it is not everyone's favorite bass tone through the years, but it was monstrous. I know at MSG I could feel the bass in my chest, just like the drums. That 1977 bass gets a bad rap due to many of the original soundboard releases. Sure its not 1975 or 1973 or any other prior tour, but it is special in all its glory. Sometimes I wonder if Jones went for that sound because he was thinking maybe he had to cut through more incisively to make up for any "issues" that might crop up with the guitar.
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That purchase price in the 70s seems low so I did some checking. Let's include the renovations Grant did. The total would be 90,000 GBP. Using overall inflation (not real estate inflation) in Britain since 1973 we get 1,060,000 GBP today. The current exchange rate to USD is 1.25 so that is $1,325,000 today.
Another way to look at this is take 90,000 GBP Grant spent and convert it to dollars in 1973. The exchange rate back then was $2.40 so that gives us $216,000 in 1973. Ok, that is equal to $1,508,000 today using overall inflation.
Based on these rough estimates Grant got quite a deal back in the 70s even if we include the renovation spending listed in the article.
If he bought the house in 1971 those two years would add a bit more to the inflation adjusted figure. For example the USD figure would be $1,611,000 based on todays money. Using GBP we get 1,271,000 as the equivalent of 90,000 GBP in 1971. With todays exchange rate of $1.25, that is roughly $1,588,750 in today's dollars.
Today in the US $1.6 million would not likely buy you an estate like that. I don't know about real estate in Great Britain. I wonder how much 1.27 million pounds would buy today?
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Fantastic! Highest quality and best filmed of any 8mm fan footage of Zep I have ever seen.
Don't know if there were any advance rumours of the acoustic set, but it is great that the filmers had enough film at that point to capture it.
Thanks to everyone who made this possible.
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4 minutes ago, 1975NQ said:
What was your memory of the crowd that night?
The first thing I thought was man I am getting old ! I was 29 and the crowd was mostly younger. The enthusiasm for Page was off the charts. The crowd was really into it. When I saw Zeppelin the crowd was crazy of course (1977) but there was some element of the crowd then who were there just because Zep was such a big deal - hipster fans as I thought of them back then. They would cheer at certain points but for them part of the experience was being there and being seen. So not utterly into Zep. This crowd was different. It seemed everyone there was completely into Page and Zeppelin. The crowd in 1988 was much more into it than the two Firm shows I had seen a few years earlier. Sure the crowd initially went wild for Page at the Firm shows, but it simmered down. In 1988 the crowd was really into everything he did, or at least it seemed that way to me. But then again memory is a funny thing.
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On 2/14/2023 at 8:33 PM, luvlz2 said:
November 5th, 1988 - Troy, N.Y. -
Thanks Led Zeppelin Boots!
Just seeing this now. I was at this show. Nice opening set by Mason Ruffner too. That old RPI Field House though- what a dump. They had plywood over the ice hockey rink. It was quite cold standing on the floor. But a great show. Hard to believe it was 35 years ago.
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So glad to see that Robert is still out there, keeping his music going.
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Great arrangement and that ending guitar solo could have gone on much longer.
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I cannot believe I had completely forgotten this track for so long. Back in 1978 I was into the second Television album, Adventure. Years later a friend gives me a copy of the first Television album, Marquee Moon. I was blown away by the whole album. I called an old friend from the 1978 era to tell him about Marquee Moon. He said "John you have got to be kidding! You loved that whole album and especially the title track way back then."
Oh well. The aging process I guess. So many great tracks on this album. See No Evil, Friction, Marquee Moon, Prove It.
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The recent release of the 6/23/1977 master tapes. Outstanding.
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I had never heard of this movie so I looked it up. Looks like it had a limited theatrical release in spring 1979. The soundtrack looks pretty good for 1979. Some Cheap Trick, some Cars, Little Feat, Van Halen's cover of the Kinks, and - Teenage Lobotomy by the Ramones.
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Excellent. Thanks for sharing this. I had not heard of them.
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Steve this sounds fantastic. Thanks so much for the link.
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12 hours ago, SteveZ98 said:
For those who are interested, here's a sample of the stereo version of the remastered Seattle '77 soundtrack. It's the main jam during a really enjoyable version of No Quarter:
Steve this sounds fantastic as always. Looking forward to the full show. Thanks again for all your contributions to the music.
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Your post got me to go back and listen to Seattle 77 Kashmir. It is very good. I usually think of what is wrong with the Seattle 77 show so that has colored my view over the years. But listening to Kashmir alone I can hear how good it was.
I prefer the 1977 keyboard sound to 1979. It is difficult to compare the vocals because Plant's approach in 1977 was so different than in 1979, and they are both fantastic in their own right.
Thanks for getting me to revisit the Seattle 77. A good one!
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That is outstanding.