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On 12/14/2015 at 4:31 PM, Sathington Willoughby said:
Conneyfogle has the first 9 songs uploaded, best I've heard on Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL22E68779B35677F1
^Full playlist.
Thanks for posting these. Does anyone know which version/release of this show Conneyfogle used for these videos? I recently downloaded a vinyl transfer of the Geiko-Sukui LP and these videos have more bottom end (which is a godsend when you're talking about a recording like this).
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3 hours ago, gibsonfan159 said:
This happened a few times after 73 and some shows were simply embarrassing. 3/21/75 is one of those shows. Houston 77 is another one.
I'll give you Houston 77 (Bonzo singlehandedly saves that show imo).
But 3/21/75? Sorry. I respectfully disagree with you there. It's not a flawless show to be sure (Sick Again is a bit shaky, Page's guitar is low in the mix during Kashmir, and there are a couple of flubs in Trampled Underfoot), but for a 75 show, it's top notch. The Cuztard Pi matrix of that show has quickly become one of my top 10 favorite Zeppelin bootlegs. And this is coming from someone who generally dislikes the 75 tour.
I can't think of any other 75 soundboard which shows Page in better shape than this one. Even on Dazed his playing is electrifying and keeps the song from being boring. For 40 minutes, it flies by. And unlike other 75 shows, he doesn't seem to run out of energy by the end. I'm not going to argue that it's technically one of Page's best ever shows, but I'd say it's an "on" show by 75 standards.
I'm curious: what exactly do you find embarrassing about Page's playing there?
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5 minutes ago, Sticks of Fire said:
He also taped one of the Oakland 1970 sources. He did almost nail the tape flips and I think he made a great sounding recording.
There is a tape flip during the intro of Going ztonCalirofnia and also during Going Down slow during the WLL medley. Check every 40-45mins and you’ll her the cut. Not muxhbwas missed at all and he did do a great job.
I just did a listen of Going to California and I didn't detect a cut anywhere. If there is a tape flip, then it's really subtle. I'll have to go back and listen to Going Down Slow again and see if there's a cut. Regardless, he did a fantastic job at capturing the atmosphere and the show in all its glory.
I didn't know he did the Oakland 1970 show as well, that's pretty cool! Do we know who he was? What kind of equipment did he use? What's his story? I find this stuff quite fascinating.
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The disappointing news about the HTWWW remaster got me thinking back to this boot. Like others here, I've always liked Burn Like a Candle better than HTWWW, and my preference for it has only grown since I first heard it. A couple of things occurred to me: If memory serves, there are no cuts in the music on the boot whatsoever. Every song is 100% intact, and the only cuts are between a couple of songs. Either this taper had the luckiest timing in the world, or he had to have known what Zeppelin's setlist was and planned accordingly, correct? Hell, even the great Mike Millard couldn't get things a hundred percent right with his timing and something was almost always cut (ex. Dazed on 3/27/75, Ten Years Gone on 6/21/77, Achilles Last Stand 6/27/77). What's this taper's story? Did he tape other Zeppelin shows? What equipment did he use? Was he a regular at the Forum?
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Thanks to SteveZ98 (aka North_Bridge) for this remaster of Achilles Last Stand from Houston 77:
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I just discovered one version that hasn't been brought up yet, but deserves to be mentioned: Milwaukee 8/31/70. Page's solo is terrific and Plant...Jesus! He's hitting some of the highest notes I think I've ever heard him do. Just damn!
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21 minutes ago, gibsonfan159 said:
I also favor JPJ's grand piano work from 77 and 79 more. I'd like to hear a mashup of his piano with a 73 version.
Someone actually did something like this on Youtube, where they combined the intro and the solo from TSRTS with Jones' piano solo from the May 24th Earls Court show. It's not perfect, but it's still quite interesting to hear.
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4 hours ago, John M said:
June 22, 1977 - It is completely over the top. It winds up toward the ending then Page blasts off into outer space again, and adds some figures I have not heard in any other version.
1 hour ago, Strider said:The TSRTS version doesn't even make my top 10...or even my top 20.
I said it years ago and I keep saying it on the various OTHAFA threads that multiply here: June 22, 1977 is Jimmy's best solo ever on OTHAFA. Best. Solo. Ever.
The other 1977 LA Forum dates, June 13, 1977 MSG, March 21 1975 Seattle, 1975 Earls Court, Offenbach 1973, and various other 1975 dates can fight it out for the rest of the top 10.
But 6.22.77 will always be #1.
Came here to say this. 6/22/77 may not have the best recording but my God is Page on fire for the solo here! John, you're spot on when you describe it as Page blasting off into outer space. Absolutely unreal. One of the many reasons why that show is easily in the top 5 of my personal soundboard wishlist.
Apart from that, other versions where I really enjoyed the solos include:
10/10/72
3/16/73
3/24/73
2/12/75
3/12/75
3/21/75
5/18/75
5/25/75
6/13/77
6/21/77
6/23/77
6/26/77
7/24/79
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12 minutes ago, AchillesLastBand said:
CliffIO,
Yes- 5/3/71 in Copenhagen.
I'm new to the forum but fairly well-versed in live Zep, official and bootleg. I just discovered this show today, and I've never heard Plant sing this well!! Not only does he tear up the "IV" material (and all the older material), hitting all the album high notes, he actually sings HIGHER vocal lines in parts of some songs (e.g., "Rock And Roll" ).
Are there any other recordings of shows including "IV" material where he sings so well?
ALB
Welcome to the forum ALB! I like your username!
In addition to 5/3/71 Copenhagen, shows where Plant sings the IV material very well include 3/5/71 Belfast (Best. Black. Dog. Ever), 8/7/71 Montreux, and 8/21/71 Los Angeles. Sadly, the latter show is often considered to be the point where Plant's vocal decline began. You can hear him tearing his vocal cords up and pushing his voice to the limit on nearly every song. Nonetheless, he kicks ass on Rock and Roll in particular.
None of the shows mentioned above have great recordings, but if you can stomach them, they're great shows overall.
Cheers!
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49 minutes ago, rm2551 said:
I'll have to give some whole shows another crack. I try to love it, but there are moments in every show that are difficult.
WSBMS - usually a sad mess.
SIBLY - worst of any era, I find it hard to get into.
The guitar tone for some songs is grating, hard to get past that.But I also think Trampled is the best ever on a couple of nights, Stairway can be exceptional, and WLL (last concert?) can be among their best.
It's such a mixed bag, every show.
Agreed on all points. If you're looking to try full shows, I'd recommend starting with Frankfurt. Best show of the tour, imho:
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8 hours ago, Strider said:
I was at this show so I will always have a fondness for it, but I've got to ask what is this source? The 3.12.75 boot I have is Badgeholder's "Taking No Prisoners" and it is completely overloaded by the bass...until Mike Millard's tape takes over during "Stairway to Heaven". So where did you find this much more listenable source?
We know EVSD has the soundboard...stop teasing us already and release the damn thing.
Until recently, there were two sources circulating for this show: the Millard source and the more complete distorted source. Recently, however, a third source was uncovered that is much better. It's still slightly bass-heavy at times, but it's nowhere near as distorted as the other one, and it's pretty damn close in quality to the Millard tape. It runs from the beginning of the show through to the middle of Dazed and Confused, and then cuts back in in time for Heartbreaker.
So far as I know, there are two boots currently out there that mix these three sources for the best and most complete representation of this show: Beelzebub's "Malacum Salaam, Was Anybody Here Last Night?" and David E's "Old School". Strangely enough, both of these releases use the newly discovered third source for Heartbreaker instead of the Millard source. Based on discussion at Royal Orleans it seems David E's release is the one to seek out, although unfortunately it is not currently on Black Beauty. I listened to Beelzebub's version and found it highly enjoyable with one exception: some extensive EQ has been applied to the new source on the 2nd disc. Not sure why it was only done for those few songs, but it's so extensive that it sounds like a completely different source and is sadly a little harsher on the ears as a result (although still nothing compared to the original distorted source). Nonetheless, I highly recommend checking out this new source. With the other two sources mixed together, the worst sounding tape only runs from the tail end of Dazed to the beginning of Stairway. It presents this show in the best light yet IMHO.
Here's the Beelzebub version on Black Beauty: http://starship.jpn.ph/zeppelin/beauty/disp/boot.jsp?R_idx=1018
And here's brief discussion on Royal Orleans about this show and this new tape: http://www.royal-orleans.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=44698
There's also this playlist on Youtube, although The Rain Song, Dazed, and Stairway have all been muted/blocked for copyright unfortunately:
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On 12/23/2017 at 5:07 PM, rm2551 said:
This seems to be a particular Earls Court night unedited. Can one of you good people please point me to any possible other nights that might be out there that are not mixed, just the film from that night?? Before seeing this I did not realize there was raw continuous footage (or so it seems from shots that seem to be "left in" and not edited). Amazing.
The last two Earls Court shows (the 24th and the 25th) have footage of the entire concerts out there. I tried looking on Youtube for the complete shows, but the closest I could find was these playlists (which unfortunately have some songs muted/blocked/missing):
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Just got spoiled a large portion of the new Star Wars movie from (of all things) a post about Net Neutrality on Reddit. I really should just stay off the internet until I see it (which will be later tonight). Still, as Frank Costanza said:
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The Beatles, The Who, The Ramones, The Rolling Stones, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Cheap Trick, Iron Maiden, Pink Floyd, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, The Allman Brothers Band, The Doors, to name a few.
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One of my favorite "ethereal interludes" in Dazed:
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27 minutes ago, Sathington Willoughby said:
I wonder when we'll get to Inline Image 3?
If this keeps up someone should do an "expanding brain" meme for it.
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2 hours ago, Sathington Willoughby said:
Well...they're nothing if not consistent I guess! Or maybe they have a thing for letters. Who am I to judge?
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10 hours ago, Anjin-san said:
If you're trying to post an image, you must be doing something wrong. The above quoted text is all that appears.
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On 4/21/2017 at 12:13 PM, ZepHead315 said:
My top 3 will always be this:
9/19/70 (evening) - so many songs played in such a short time, all performed well
9/29/71 - Twist and Shout is amazing here
3/22/73 - The end of the Everybody Needs Somebody to Love section is one of the most intense things I've ever heard.
Well, I guess I should know better than to put absolute words like "always" when it comes to favorites like this. Mine keep changing!
I will say that, currently, my favorite version is Tokyo 9/23/71.
Holy shit, words do not do justice to this version. The length, the songs (Good Times Bad Times! How Many More Times! Tobacco Road!), Plant pushing his voice to its limits, and that crowd. By god, they sound like they're about to explode! It's a wonder anyone survived!
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One version that I almost never hear people talk about (though it has been mentioned a couple of times in this thread) is 5/18/75. I've listened to this a couple of times and I think it may just be my favorite NQ from 1975. Jones absolutely kills it and Page's solo (to my ears) is almost as fluid as his solo on TSRTS. Great recording too.
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16 hours ago, SteveAJones said:
The greatest female rock singer has to have it all...voice, style, attitude AND looks. Here's my #1 & #2 on the list.
#1 Susanna Hoffs
#2 Lee Aaron
+1 for Susanna. Beauty, brains, talent, she's got it all. And she still looks amazing today!
As for my favorite female rock singers (besides Susanna):
Ann Wilson
Janis JoplinDebbie Harry
Grace Slick
Amy Winehouse
Tina Turner
Cass Elliot
Aretha Franklin
Okay, some of those may be a bit of stretch to call "rock", but whatever.
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1 hour ago, johnlennon696 said:
Someone took his remaster and added plantations and the missing tracks from the AUD source. Think they slightly remastered it again too.
Do you know the name/label for this? Would love a PM for a download link if anyone has it.
Holy shit, words do not do justice to this version. The length, the songs (Good Times Bad Times! How Many More Times! Tobacco Road!), Plant pushing his voice to its limits, and that crowd. By god, they sound like they're about to explode! It's a wonder anyone survived!
Copenhagen 24.07.79 Oh yes!!
in Led Zeppelin Live
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I'll be sure to keep an eye out for it. Thanks!