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Sorry, but I don't know how to post it on YT
. I only have the mp3 (ripped off of YT) and I certainly don't know how to make videos. I don't think it was Earls Court. Plant's voice sounds younger. And is not the BBC version either. Oh, and another hint: the opening acoustic guitar part is much lower and slower than the studio version. The whole version is much slower and sadder (if that is possible). And, on the final part (where is that "cut" in the song, begining the little guitar solo), Plant is singing in crescendo something as "it ain't right ..it ain't right...". Also, I didn't noticed any tambourine sound (I suppose the "jingle" sound on the studio version was a tambourine)...recollection is imprecise as it is Earls Court 1975, as I've said:
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Hi.I have a longtime bothering question and I think this is the right place to post it.
I stoled
from Youtube a beautiful live version of That's The Way and I didn't note down what concert was taken from. Of course, now the YT link is gone, and I would really like to find out what show was.The version have an emphasized (compared to the studio version), beautiful mandoline part and, on the line with the dying fish, Plant says "oh dear". Thanks! I'm sure is not some ultra rare stuff, but I'm too "entry level" to identify it.
Possibly one of the five nights at Earls Court in '75. Try to repost it to YouTube or send me a link.
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I think this is my favourite so far..you can imagine the telephone conversation.."Robert who?..Grant?..Prant?..Plank..oh right..Clamp"
Walsall Observer 21/07/1967 (gig is 22/07/1967)
It seems the Nita Anderson Agency is still a going concern:
http://nitaandersonagency.com/
This from the 'N Between Times website:
Nita Anderson
People are apt to get the impression that the only entertainment agency operating in Wolverhampton during the 60's was Astra but that was not the case, there was also the Nita Anderson Agency. She began her promotional work in Sedgley, using the local Parish Hall. It was her promotions at the Ship & Rainbow that most punters best remember. She brought a number of very good acts to the Ship, including probably the most popular of all the performers at the venue, Raymond Froggatt. She managed a number of local groups, her first being Derry Ryan & Ravens who she heard playing at the Ellowes public house in Gornal. Other groups she looked after included Choice, Scarlet Religion and Revolver. It was while the 'N Betweens were with the Anderson Agency that they got their contract with Fontana and became Ambrose Slade. Some of the people who worked for Nita's agency in the 60s include Barry Dunn, the former vocalist with the Mountain Kings and the Cobras, Jimmy Powell who had some success in the early beat period with the Dimensions, Don Fardon who had a major hit with the record Indian Reservation in 1970, Keith Evans, the former drummer with the Californians and of course, the inimitable Roger Allen.
Band Of Joy
First emerged on to the local scene in 1967, with their 'amazing' lead vocalist, Robert Plant. From the outset it was obvious to local punters that he was something special, although few would probably have agreed when he was lead singer with Listen. One night that is recalled by many punters was when the band was playing at the Ship & Rainbow and Robert Plant was forced to do an unaccompanied session because of an electrical fault. It proved to be tremendous. The band was involved in at least one controversy when Robert formed a second Band Of Joy from the group, Paper. It led to a dispute with the original group's management over the name of the group. The new group had Keith Hammond on lead, Paul Lockey on bass, John Thompson on drums and Chris Brown as organist. It was a much more blues-oriented group. It was in that form that they supported Tim Rose while on tour in 1968. It was in the summer of 1968 that Robert Plant left the group, along with the group's drummer at the time, John Bonham, and joined Jimmy Page's New Yardbirds which would become Led Zeppelin. Robert Plant did play for a very short time with another group called Obs Tweedle, immediately before joining Page. He still performs locally with Priory Of Brion.
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Steve sorry, What I meant was top Composer award, did the band recieve the award or particular members of
the band as the axis seemed to shift on that album?
Led Zeppelin was #1 Top Composer.
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Who was listed for top Composer award, I guess the Arranger award went to JPJ?
I remember seeing the pictures of Robert,Bonzo & Jonesy with a armful of awards.
JPJ finished third in the Arranger category. I don't have the issue with me to confirm who beat them out. I think The Who or musicians inThe Who beat them in the other categories. Perhaps someone has the issue issue within arm's reach and can confirm this.
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Hi Steve,
Another anniversary question for you. Coming up on the 30th anniversary of the Melody Maker poll awards, where the mighty Zep collected 7 awards in 1979, my question is, were there any other catgories that they were nominated for yet didn't win? Obvious are Top Drummer and Top Bass Player (unbelievable!).
1979 Melody Maker Reader's Poll Results
#1 Band of the Year
#1 Best Live Act
#1 Best Album
#1 Top Composer
#1 Male Singer
#1 Top Guitarist
#1 Producer
#2 Top Bassist
#2 Top Keyboardist
#2 Top Drummer
#3 Top Arranger
Source: 'Melody Maker', December 1, 1979
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The German tour didn't happen.
Many thanks, Sam. Anyone know if the single was released in Germany as the press report suggests, and if so does
anyone have a photograph of one? If so it must be impossibly scarce.
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Who robbed $180,000 off Led Zeppelin receipts?
Answered previously in this thread so just to recap: The crime remains unsolved. Peter Grant and Richard Cole were questioned and released. The safety deposit box at the Drake Hotel was intact and I have speculated it was an inside job with possible mob connections. Led Zeppelin never stayed there again and it was demolished in 2007.
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I never said I was a schoolmate of Robert's I met him through a schoolmate (Chris Brown) who was the keyboard player in the Band of Joy
Well, I never said you were a schoolmate of Robert's either.
Thanks so much for confirming approximate date and exact location of the wedding. I maintain a Robert Plant chronology so these details are of great interest to me. -
I'm hearing whispers of another two year Stones tour starting in late 2010. Here's hoping they do!
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Thanks Steve. Second and probably last question for a while, open to anyone who knows: I see a Stanley Blair was named as an injured concertgoer in Cincinnati during the 1977 LZ tour. Was this the same fan who was later reported to have died at this show? It seems like there was quite the melee at the event, so there were undoubtedbly several injured people - can anyone confirm the fatality?
I should note that I'm not trying to dig up any dirt here; the death of a fan at this concert has been cited in at least two LZ bios that I know of, and of course numerous other acts (incl. AC/DC, Metallica, the Stones, and the Who, also in Cincinatti) have had more deaths at their own gigs.
An 18-year-old Dayton fan plunged 20 feet to a concrete ramp while trying to scale a wall, police said. Stanley Blair was reported in fair condition at Cincinnati hospital. Asst City Manager Henry Sandman told the Cincinnati City Council that 80 police officers, paid for by the Cincinnati Coliseum, will be used hereafter to prevent outbreaks of trouble. (The Telegram, April 21, 1977)
I don't have anything to substantiate Blair ultimately died from his injuries.
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Steve, I seem to remember reading in "The Press Reports" that some Zeppelin gigs were cancelled or rescheduled due to young Jason Bonham having a motorcross accident and his father returning to Britain to see that he was okay (Jason couldn't have been more than ten years old, which would have placed the episode in '73 or '75). Am I recalling this correctly? Anyone else come across this?
Jason was only two and half and had received some stitches in his head. Bonzo flew home and four concerts were cancelled - Feb 3,4,5,6 1969 at Steve Paul's Scene (301 W. 46th Street) in Manhattan. This was a real shame as
the band - who always enjoyed themselves socially at Steve Paul's Scene - never did perform there.
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There are several photos of him from the Manticore Studio Sessions smoking. I'm assuming this was early 77 before the tour?
Good observation! Jimmy said they rehearsed nearly ten hours a day for a month at Manticore in January 1977.
Later that same year he told 'Gig' magazine they had begun tour rehearsals "a month before Christmas" before
taking a holiday break, but I have yet to confirm those were also held at Manticore. Regardless, I don't believe
any photos have surfaced from Nov '76 rehearsals. Since we're discussing smoking, it's interesting to note he
also said he spent some time as an in-patient at an exclusive health farm near London that Autumn ('76).
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I've yet to see a photo of Jimmy Page smoking a cigarette onstage prior to the 1977 U.S. tour. I do recall from a short interview around that time Page saying he had recently started smoking to piss off some flight attendant while traveling. Sounds convenient.
No photographic evidence of Jimmy Page smoking prior to the 1977 U.S. tour could be found.
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Hi, I am "Mr. duCille and can confirm it is me with RP. Wearing the worst made suit in Christendom!!!!
Mr. duCille -
Welcome to the forum. Could you kindly confirm the date of the wedding and the name/location of church? If there was a reception did Robert Plant attend? If so could you kindly confirm that location and if he performed or not? Thank you.
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I'm certainly inclined to agree.
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I'm certainly inclined to agree.
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Mr. Jones~
Heres one for you, although it might have been discussed earlier and answered but I'm not rooting through this maze of wizardry. I was at work the other day when I overheard a few people discussing Zeppelin. They were arguing with each other when Page began smoking cigarettes, they all agreed he'd always smoked during Zeppelin. I chimed in he didn't start until the Sept-Oct '75 California sessions. A bit ridiculous I know, but any ideas when Page first lit up? Cheers.
~Mr. Bonzo
Interesting question come to think of it. Let me see what I can come up with. Hopefully others can provide input as well.
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I spoke to Beresford "Bes" du-Cille via some email conversations. He was a schoolmate of Robert Plant and other members of The Band of Joy in the 1960s.
This is what he had to say. (edited)
Absolutely fascinating anecdotes. Thanks so much for sharing them here.
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These might help-
The date on top of the article suggests that either they have become Listen within 2 weeks of the Blue Flame gig or that the Blue Flame gig was contracted as the Teens and they were already calling themselves Listen. At least it narrows down the date of Listens debut slightly.
Agreed, the existence of the flyers coupled with these articles strongly suggests the name change occured in Feb 1966.
Nice detective work, blocoboy.
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I saw The Firm in Worcester,Mass. in 1985 I believe it was
They only played Worcester once, at The Centrum on May 8th 1985.
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Steve,
Earlier in this thread blocoboy posted an article from March 1966 which indicated that Robert had been with Listen for less than 2 months. So, anything through December 1965 would not feature Robert. But some of the Tennessee Teens gigs in January/February 1966 most likely do feature him.
Oh, I see. Makes perfect sense and insofar as Chris Welch having said Robert joining The Tennessee Teens resulted in a name change to Listen it is quite conceivable it was not instantaneous...TTT gigs may already have been booked...etc.
. I only have the mp3 (ripped off of YT) and I certainly don't know how to make videos. I don't think it was Earls Court. Plant's voice sounds younger. And is not the BBC version either. Oh, and another hint: the opening acoustic guitar part is much lower and slower than the studio version. The whole version is much slower and sadder (if that is possible). And, on the final part (where is that "cut" in the song, begining the little guitar solo), Plant is singing in crescendo something as "it ain't right ..it ain't right...". Also, I didn't noticed any tambourine sound (I suppose the "jingle" sound on the studio version was a tambourine)
from Youtube a beautiful live version of That's The Way and I didn't note down what concert was taken from. Of course, now the YT link is gone, and I would really like to find out what show was.
Thanks so much for confirming approximate date and exact location of the wedding. I maintain a Robert Plant chronology so these details are of great interest to me.
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