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  1. Hey TD... hope life is treating you well. Take care.

  2. Right. I believe that was the received view for quite some time. But now there are competing theories, and I think the Everest News team's theory is that Mallory's rope injuries were not caused at the moment of death - they were caused before, when he and Irvine were pulling each other up the mountain. I'm not sure on this though, just remembering from earlier reading.
  3. Okay here is the story on Irvine from Everest News What we think happened on that fateful day in 1924. We will never know what was in Sandy's mind during the final moments of his life. We do know that George and Sandy were going for the top. George was hell bent on summiting, whatever the cost. Mallory and Irvine had several options that day. Either they climbed what is now called the Second Step, or they took on the real Second Step "head on". The Norton couloir route would have been easier for George. But if Mallory took Norton's route, how did Sandy end up on the ridge? A similar problem exists with the modern route up the Second Step. Today's climbers traverse across the North face, and then take the modern route up the 2nd Step. If George and Sandy went that way, how did Sandy get back to the ridge alone? Strange things do happen on everest... But the most logical conclusion is that George and Sandy took the northeast ridge of Everest all the way to the "real Second Step" on the ridge. From this point the summit of Everest does not appear to be an hour or two away; it appears to be "right there". You think you can reach out and touch it. Mallory and Irvine must have felt they were only minutes from the top. George then did what many do today. He went for it. Hell bent to get to the top, George probably was given Sandy's oxygen, or part of it. He took the rope and he climbed the bastard to fulfill his destiny. Note that many climbers today run out of oxygen on Everest. For those without support one of two things happens: they die, or they can function and keep going. We know several climbers who have summited and then made their way down after running out of oxygen. As with many who go for the top today, George soon found the journey harder than expected. He would run out of oxygen but as many do today he was still be able to function as many have since his time (Since we know George's body is not above the Second Step; he had to get down without oxygen.) We believe George Mallory then continued on to the Summit of Mt Everest. Once reaching the Summit, he must have figured Sandy had either headed back to camp or died waiting. George, knowing that getting down the Second Step alone was next to impossible alone, headed down the couloir, down the mountain and across the Snow Terrace. He was almost back to camp. Like many climbers today, he is wasted, his mind is playing tricks on him and he falls and dies quickly due to the head injury that either caused or was caused by the short fall. We believe Sandy waited for George at the Second Step. He soon is dieing. Sandy, like some of the others who run out of oxygen today, struggles without the oxygen. He knows he has to head back, but he is dieing. At some point, he fell to the ground on a snow slab. It is not known if that snow slab was on the Kangshung face of the ridge or the North face. However, most snow slabs are on the Kangshung face. He leaned into the mountain, trying to use the snow to shield him. He died. Sandy Irvine was the good soldier. He gave his life for the job, for the dream, for George's destiny. Like most good soldiers, he became a footnote in history.
  4. Through the lives of men such as Hillary we learn what our species is capable of. I am deeply moved by his passing. There is now a new theory, based on new evidence (a 1924 oxygen bottle at I believe the Second Step), that Mallory summited in 1924 and died on the way down. The staff of everestnews.com has for the past several years been exploring Everest on special expeditions to try to determine definitively whether Mallory, or Irvine, or both, summited. It is fascinating reading, but not very well laid out and difficult to navigate. Below is what I think is a link to the first article. Everest News: Mallory and Irvine: The Final Chapter The basic theory is that both Mallory and Irvine almost summited, but decided very high up that there was only enough oxygen left for one to go on. Mallory took all the oxygen they had and went for the summit, leaving Irvine behind. Mallory summited, but for unknown reasons took another route down. Irvine died waiting for Mallory, and Mallory died after a fall on the way down.
  5. Lars and the Real Girl. The sweetest thing I've ever seen. And it was actually very good, with an incredible performance by Ryan Gosling.
  6. Concerning the new Todd Haynes flick I'm Not There. It is out now. I haven't seen it yet, but I love Todd Haynes, and the film is getting excellent reviews, so it's high on my list. Reviews on I'm Not There Official movie site Note it is NOT a Dylan documentary or biopic. From Roger Ebert - "I'm Not There" is an attempt to consider the contradictions of Bob Dylan by building itself upon contradictions. Maybe that's the only way to do it. If you made a biopic with Dylan played by the same actor all the way through, it might become the portrait of a shape-shifting schizophrenic. Todd Haynes' approach is to create six or seven Dylans, depending on how you count, and use six actors to play them. This way, each Dylan is consistent on his own terms, and the life as a whole need not hold together. One of the actors is a young African-American boy (Marcus Carl Franklin) who claims to be Woody Guthrie; a second is Jack, a Greenwich Village folk singer (Christian Bale); a third is Robbie (Heath Ledger), appearing in a Hollywood film, who settles down, gets married and has kids; a fourth is Jude (Cate Blanchett), a hero who alienated his fans by switching from acoustic to electric guitar and from folk to folk rock; a fifth is an actor (Richard Gere) appearing in a Western about Billy the Kid; a sixth is a Dylan (Ben Whishaw) submitting to a contentious interview about his career, and then we double back again to Christian Bale, who plays either a seventh or a transformation of the first, Pastor Jack, a born-again Christian." The one getting the most buzz is Cate Blanchett, because of her uncanny embodiment of Dylan. She looks just like him, yet used only minimal makeup/costuming.
  7. Oh that's RIGHT! From my hero Patti! Now about that bone....heh.
  8. If you see her, say hello From one of my favorite albums, Blood on the Tracks. That and Bootleg Series: Live 1966 (the "Judas" concert) are probably the ones dearest to my heart. I NEED Dylan music. It's an indispensable aspect of my life.
  9. Tombstone Blues! I can still hear the sounds of those Methodist bells, I'd taken the cure and had just gotten through, Stayin' up for days in the Chelsea Hotel, Writin' "Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" for you.
  10. I DON'T know who it was!!! Throw me a fricken bone man!!
  11. Too easy, but... Jimi Hendrix cover of a Dylan song that became the definitive version. Dylan often did this one an encore in recent concerts.
  12. Forgot about that one actually. That's two Denzel Washington films with titles that come from Dylan songs then. The other, which is the one I was thinking of, is The Mighty Quinn.
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